Gideon Lewis
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Gideon Lewis (abt. 1730 - abt. 1812)

Gideon Lewis
Born about [location unknown]
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and
Brother of and
Husband of — married about 1765 in Ashe, North Carolinamap
Descendants descendants
Father of , , , , , , , , and
Died about at about age 82 in Barren, Kentucky, United Statesmap
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Biography

Gideon was born in either North Carolina or Wales. More research is needed to verify whether Gideon Lewis was born before or after his parents immigrated from Wales to the Colony of North Carolina.

He was the son of Nathaniel Lewis and Elvira Helton.

He was the brother of James Theophilus Lewis Sr., and of George Lewis.

Marriage

He married Nancy Osborne. .[1] They had a son also named Gideon Lewis, born in 1770 in the colony of North Carolina.

Death

He passed away 12 June 1812 Ashe, North Carolina . [2][3]

NOTE; 1810 census of Barren Co., Kentucky, Gideon Lewis was living with his son James Lewis

Facts

  • 1759 Private Gideon Lewis is listed on the payroll of Captain Aventon Phelps Scouts, Rowan, North Carolina, ordered by Colonel George Smith to the range of Frontier.[4]
  • Gideon Lewis is included in the list of taxables returned by Constable Elijah SCIDMORE [SKIDMORE?] in Rowan Co., North Carolina Colony, in 1761. On the same list were Stephen, Ephraim, and Solomon ORSBURN [OSBORNE].
  • 1790 Gideon's home is in Wilkes, North Carolina.[5]
  • 1800 Gideon and family live in Morgan, Ashe, North Carolina.[6]
  • 1810 Gideon and his family have moved to Barren, Kentucky.[7]

Sources

  1. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. Source number: 1116.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: HCB
  2. ↑ First-hand information as remembered by Anne Baker, Sunday, March 1, 2015.
  3. ↑ Unsourced family tree handed down to r Barker.
  4. ↑ Clark, Murtie June. Colonial Soldiers of the South 1732-1774. Geneological Publishing Company, Inc. Baltimore, Maryland. ISBN 0-8063-1036-7
  5. ↑ Year: 1790; Census Place: Wilkes, North Carolina; Series: M637; Roll: 7; Page: 168; Image: 103; Family History Library Film: 0568147
  6. ↑ Year: 1800; Census Place: Morgan, Ashe, North Carolina; Series: M32; Roll: 29; Page: 82; Image: 69; Family History Library Film: 337905
  7. ↑ Year: 1810; Census Place: Barren, Kentucky; Roll: 5; Page: 80; Image: 00053; Family History Library Film: 0181350
  • The Descendants of Isaac Weaver, Sr. Volume II by Jeffrey C. Weaver.
  • 1810 census of Barren Co., Kentucky, Gideon was living with his son James Lewis




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Death record of Gideon Lewis b. 1723 d. 1731
Death record of Gideon Lewis b. 1723 d. 1731
Death record of Gideon Lewis b. 1723 d. 1731
Death record of Gideon Lewis b. 1723 d. 1731


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Bass-6698 Jim Bass Jr.
Lewis-46423 and Lewis-15505 appear to represent the same person because: same spouse, same parents, same death date
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
Lewis-46423 and Lewis-15505 do not represent the same person because: because the one born in 1723 was a child of 8 years of age when he died
posted by Jan Van Kort
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
So, can we go ahead and merge the 2? or remove Gideon b. 1723 as a father of our James???
posted by L. Lewis
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
So why do people keep insisting upon merging bad data? The Gideon born in 1723 only shares the same name. He has different parents, different town, and different birthday and he died in 1731. What is there to merge? Please remove him. It could be he is a cousin to our Gideon, but he is not our Gideon, the father of James, and that fact should be what we should be concerned about.

On Ancestry.com there is a copy of a Quaker meeting logbook with notes attached to it that showed the Gideon born in 1723 died in 1731, a child. Someone who can figure out how to get that meeting book copied over to this forum should do so, so we can bring an end to this merge topic.

posted by Jan Van Kort
edited by Jan Van Kort
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
The Gideon b. 1723 has your name on it, not mine. I think it's a bad idea to remove or change somebody else's work.
posted by L. Lewis
edited by L. Lewis
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
I have been paying a fortune into research on this person. I live on SSI now, and can't pay for more research. I don't know how to remove the dead child Gideon, born 1723 from the tree. He does not appear in my tree when I look there.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
So, if you leave him, all his children need to be included in Lewis-15505. How do you do that? It would just be easier to merge him and the children and be done with it, because he is obviously connected to the wrong family. You surely wouldnt merge him into the William and Lowry Lewis line, as the children would all be wrong, then we have a bigger mess than what is already here.....
posted by L. Lewis
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
The Lewis-46423 is incorrect. Right birthdate, wrong parents, wrong death date. I can't figure out how to remove him. I was able to remove Elvira as his mother and put in Lowry, but I can't replace his father with William Lewis. And of course this child did not grow up to have a wife and children.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
I'm not sure either. We may need help on this to fix it. I did post the death info pics on his page. it's on the right column.
posted by L. Lewis
Bass-6698 Jim Bass Jr.
Jan - both profiles show a death date of 1812 and both have the same wife. If one of these people died at 8 yrs old, please update the incorrect profile. Thanks
posted by Jim Bass Jr.
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
What I know to be correct is the 1730 birthdate for the Gideon who married Nancy and they were the parents of the James Lewis who later became my ancestor.

The Gideon born in 1723 died as a child in 1731. He was born to a William and Lowry Lewis who attended the Chester meetings. I can't seem to fix this issue.

posted by Jan Van Kort
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
OK, I was able to make the two Gideons into the correct one for our family. they are both born in 1730 with same parents, Nathaniel and Elvira. So now they can be merged.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
Ok, I will do that process. There is a William Lewis, JR. as Lewis-13857 that Gideon b. 1723 could be added to as a child. just an fyi...
posted by L. Lewis
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
Lewis-46423 and Lewis-15505 appear to represent the same person because: Jan, you will have to approve this merge....
posted by L. Lewis
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
I have pretty much exhausted my resources in searching for Gideon and his parents. The Gideon born in Chester is not my ancestor as he died at the age of 8 in 1731. The BigY DNA leads us to George Lewis born 1600 in Kent, England. We need to fill in the gap. Also, we may need to focus on CT or MA for Gideon and his parents instead of PA. When I can afford it I will pay for more research. I have no clue as to how to put documents from research into this media.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Weddington-53 Eric Weddington
Hi Jan,

There are some different ways to include research documents in WikiTree. You can either link to them in the Biography or Sources section (by editing the profile and adding the URL, or link, to it). Or you can upload it by "uploading an image". Instead of uploading an image format (for example, JPEG file (.jpg) or PNG file (.png)), you can upload a PDF file. Depends on what you want to do, or how big the document is, or whether it should be stored here, or if you are fine with the document stored elsewhere.

posted by Eric Weddington
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
I have had no success in copying url's or anything else from ancestry.com to any other media. Wikitree does not seem to want to make this possible, so I'll leave this "sourcing" issue up to those who can. I will add a note as to where data is and let someone else who knows how do it, do it.
posted by Jan Van Kort
edited by Jan Van Kort
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
It has been brought to my attention that the Gideon Lewis born in May 1723 as the son of William and Lowry Lewis as reported in the Chester Quaker meeting died in 1731 as reported in quaker meeting notes. Thereby, making the Gideon Lewis merge as incorrect, so now I suspect he was born in about 1730. DNA connects me to many of the surnames mentioned so far. So do thru-lines.

Perhaps, we can make a list and rule-out that which we know to be incorrect?

posted by Jan Van Kort
Paul Gifford
The wife of John Mulkey (1768-1850) was Polly Lewis, and they married about 1790 in Ashe County, North Carolina. I am a descendant and have heavy DNA links to Gideon Lewis and the Osborne family. Polly [Mary] is likely to be their daughter, rather than the Mary listed here. At Ancestry, my DNA matches to descendants of their children are as follows: Gideon, Jr., 10 matches, up to 25 cM; George, 2 matches, up to 23 cM; Isaac, 5 matches, up to 28 cM; Jane, 1 match, 16 cM; Sarah, 1 match, 18 cM; Elizabeth, 5 matches, up to 16 cM; and Nathaniel, 1 match, 13 cM. My Osborne matches are numerous --- lots of connections to descendants of Solomon Osborne of Pike County, KY. It also shows matches to 2 descendants of Mary (Lewis) Taylor, at 9 and 11 cM. Polly (Lewis) Mulkey's children were born between 1792 and 1815, making her born say around 1774. Based on these data, I would think that Mary (Lewis) Taylor was a sister, not a daughter of Gideon Lewis.
posted by Paul Gifford
Weddington-53 Eric Weddington
Feel free to make any needed changes as long as you post sources for your changes.
posted by Eric Weddington
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
Is Polly even a valid name? I had always thought of it as a "nickname". Just like Sally and Sarah, although I do have twins elsewhere in my family with those two as birthnames. Are you saying the Mary born in 1779 should be named Polly? And she got married at about age 11? Please correct me with proper dates and names. I am discussing the children born to Gideon and Nancy, the couple who were married in 1763, Ashe, NC. These were my ancestors and I need my tree to be correct. No wishful thinking please. Other people depend upon correct data.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Paul Gifford
Later sources refer to her as Polly Lewis, but of course "Polly" was a nickname for Mary. Her youngest child was born in 1815, and she was married by 1790, so she was born say about 1773. In my earlier note I suggested 1774 (not 1779!). Either way, the Mary Taylor suggested as Gideon's daughter seems wrong. As I mentioned, I have strong Lewis and Osborne DNA matches. In 1790, Gideon Lewis lived six households away from James "Mulky," in the 10th company of Wilkes County, NC.

Also, are you saying that you or someone had a Big-Y or y-chromosome test that shows that your line (which is from Gideon) is the same as someone who descends from George Lewis who settled in Barnstable, MA? This is entirely possible. There was a migration pattern that went from New England to NJ, PA, then to NC. For example, this was Abraham Lincoln's male line. The Osbornes settled in Long Island, then went from NJ down to VA and NC.

posted by Paul Gifford
edited by Paul Gifford
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
could a spouse by the name of Lee Poe be correct? I don't seem to have a Mary Taylor in my ancestry.com tree. Plus I'm having severe issues with editing on this wikitree. Can't seem to get there from here.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
Yes, my cousin Luana Lewis was able to get her brothers and some other direct-line cousins to do the Big"Y" on FTDNA. They are also members of the Lewis project which finds that Gideon Lewis descendants are not related to the James Lewis of Merriweather fame. The two families are distantly related with a 3 thousand year gap. Clearly puts the two families distant cousins back in the bronze-age as to when they shared the same father.

Ok, I have a sibling Mary to Gideon and a daughter Mary. Somehow they both seem to be Taylor. I don't think I can fix this problem

posted by Jan Van Kort
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
I think I got the Mary problem resolved
posted by Jan Van Kort
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
Paul- I agree with you totally on Mary Polly Lewis Taylor being a sister of Gideon SR.
posted by L. Lewis
Van Kort-1 Jan Van Kort
Lewis-46423 and Lewis-15505 are not ready to be merged because: I think the Lewis who is proposed to have died in KY is most likely incorrect. Just in case someone finds this mans grave, then we'll have a better discussion. I suspect the Chester connection to be correct from all my research. This also may connect the Boones and the Other Lewis families together better.
posted by Jan Van Kort
Schwartz-2715 Sandie (Schwartz) Schwarz
Lewis-38144 and Lewis-15505 are the same person and should be merged
posted by Sandie (Schwartz) Schwarz
Lewis-38113 L. Lewis
Lewis-15505 and Lewis-19465 appear to represent the same person because: proposing merge to reduce extra people in our Lewis family tree.
posted on Lewis-19465 (merged) by L. Lewis
Downey-1809 Teresa Downey
Lewis-29452 and Lewis-15505 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, exact same mother on both profiles, fathers in process of merge, same birth info, same death info

Thank you for reviewing. Teresa (WikiTree Arborist)

posted by Teresa Downey
Pieterse-13 Esmé (Pieterse) van der Westhuizen
Lewis-29452 and Lewis-29455 appear to represent the same person because: Exact dates, same spouse and child

Please ensure that Parents are merged first

posted by Esmé (Pieterse) van der Westhuizen

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