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Martha Jane (Lightfoot) Lott (abt. 1786 - bef. 1850)

Martha Jane "Patsy" Lott formerly Lightfoot aka Dorsey
Born about [location unknown]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 64 in Mississippi, United Statesmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Died before 1850 , age unknown, probably in Mississippi, USA

U.S. General Land Office document which grants a deed to land in Lamar County, Mississippi to the heirs of Martha Jane Lott; Issue Date 3 July 1902[1]

Sources

  1. Bureau of Land Management, “Land Patent Search,” digital images, General Land Office Records (https://glorecords.blm.gov/details/patent/default.aspx?accession=MS2670__.462&docClass=STA&sid=52myj24q.z1k#patentDetailsTabIndex=0 : accessed 1 Oct 2022), Martha Jane Lott (Heirs of Martha Jane Lott, Homestead, Accession Nr: MS2670__.462, Document Nr: 16472, Misc. Doc. Nr: 30415.

Martha Jane (--?--) (her surname is thought by many to be Lightfoot and there are persistent legends of Indian ancestry) was born before 1775 (On 1820 census she was listed as >45 years old). She also went by the name of Patsy.

Children of Absalom Lott and Martha Jane (--?--) were as follows:

  1. Elizabeth Lott, born between 1771 and 1780; married Thomas Watts.
  2. Frances Lucretia Lott married William Hatten circa 1822 MS . She immigrated between 1838 and 1839 1840, they were in Ouachita Par. LA which later became Jackson Parish
  3. Alfred Lott; born circa 1786 SC
  4. Johnnie Major Lott; born circa 1789 GA died circa 1850 MS.
  5. Abraham Lott, born circa 1792 GA; married Zilpha Wiggins.
  6. Arthur Lott; born circa 1795 (probably GA); married Deshultz (--?--) Said to have served as pvt in 13th regt (Nixon's) Miss Militia. Assumed to be the Arthur Lott, Jr. on this roll.).
  7. Phillip Lott, born circa 1798 GA; married Mary Wiggins.
  8. Absalom Lott, born circa 1799 GA; married Sarah Watts.
  9. Nathan Lott. born circa 1800.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jcbarron/lott/lott0001.htm





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Lightfoot-1060 and Lightfoot-249 appear to represent the same person because: Lightfoot-1060 and Lightfoot-249 are the same person. But Lightfoot-249 has the more accurate information.
posted by Ed Blair III
What do we know about my ancestor, Martha Jane Lott? We don't know anything, really.

The best information we have: Family tradition says that Absalom Lott's Wife was named Martha Jane and her nickname was "Patsy." There are rumors that her maiden name was Lightfoot and there are rumors that she was an "Indian Princess." These rumors both seem to date back at least to the 1890s. The IP story has also attached itself to her daughter, Frances Lucretia Watts - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lott-1019

Grandma Roy - Emily (Watts) Roy - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Watts-10225, told us that her great grandmother was 100% Cherokee and her name was Penelope Littlefeather. Not so of course. Her g grandmother was Penelope Lott - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lott-1241

Grandma Roy must have heard this story as a kid. So this Indian Princess legend was attached to three different members of the family (at least).

We really believed Grandma Roy was one eighth Cherokee. But none of the close Watts relatives who have been tested have any First Nation DNA at all in our 23andMe reports. I'm 99.9% Northwest European, myself.

In this profile, I've included a U.S. General Land Office document which grants a deed to land in Lamar County, Mississippi to the heirs of Martha Jane Lott; Issue Date 3 Jul 1902. But this document must actually be in connection to her namesake granddaughter. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lott-401

There isn't one single primary source for Martha that actually mentions her name. The only time she probably appears is as a tally mark in the 1820 Census. The tally mark implies that she was 45 or more years old, which is why I've set her birthdate at before 1776.

After the 1820 Census Absalom was dead. But there were three other Absalom Lotts, who appear in the 1830 Census. Two in Covington County and one in Florida. The two in Covington County are certainly young relatives and the one in Florida is a possible. But there are no tally marks for a female her age. She may appear as a lonely tally mark under some other male head of a family, or was she dead? In all honesty that is unknown. I list her death date as before 1850 because the 1850 Census is the first one, to my knowledge, which included the names of all members of the household. So far I can't find Martha Jane's name on that Census.

Why is Martha so elusive? One reason is that Absalom may not have been living in the 13 Colonies (or States) at the time he married Martha. He may have been living in West Florida. John Lott - Absalom's father - had property there. This might have been on the Tombigbee River or on the Pearl River, but neither is certain. It is not known whether Absalom held a separate property. Neither is it known how long he may have actually lived in West Florida, if at all. I have not been able to find him in any census of West Florida under the British or Spanish. It is known that Absalom signed an "allegiance pledge" to Spain in 1780, so he was at least physically present in Spanish West Florida at that moment.

From http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jcbarron/genealogy/lott/lott99.htm

John, Maybe I didn't check closely enough, but I don't believe you have the following information or, at least, not from this source. This was found in the Mobile Public library:

Interesting Transcript of the British, French, and Spanish Records of the City and District of Mobile State Alabama found in Probate court in two volumes in the City of Mobile 1715 10 1812 Volume ll with Index Prepared from the original data by the Municipal and Court Records Project of the Works Program Administration..1937. Note: The contents of this book were taken from the original book. All mistakes of spelling, punctuation, marked out phrases or words were copied as the original book appeared.


THE GOVERNOR GENERAL MIRO, TO JAMES GANIER To his Excellency Stephen Miro Colonel of Royal Armies, and civil and military Governor of the provinces of Louisiana and West Florida.

James Ganier who resides within the jurisdiction of Mobile with the most profound respect represents to your excellency, that there is a tract of vacant land of ten arpens in front, situated on the river Tombeckbee, and bounded on the North by lands owned by a man name Wales, and on the south by lands belonging to one Hogget, which said tract of land formerly was in possession of John Lott, but was abandoned by him in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty, and has not since been occupied or claimed by him the said John, or by any other person in his behalf. ....."

Subj: Re: Lott near Mobile Date: 3/29/99

To: [email address removed] CC: Lott Circle

Thanks, Arlina. I had not seen this source, but knew about the event depicted and it just provides further confirmation of the Lott family's Tory affiliations during the Rev. War. In my paper on the Colonial Lotts on the web page, I noted that John Lott (b 1720?) fled Georgia for British West Florida at the start of the war. When American ally Spain seized the area in 1780, son Absalom Lott signed an allegiance pledge, but John apparently would not and evidently went back east. He seemed to suffer no ill consequences, although I feel sure that the Georgia land had been confiscated, but have not found any record of such.

The document that you found makes it sound like the Lott property was close to Mobile on the Tombigbee River, but in fact it was described elsewhere as 105 miles distant from the town. It was surely the very same tract of land that John Lott (b 1742?) came to and reclaimed about 1805 on the Pearl River after the Louisiana Purchase.

Another piece of the puzzle put in place. Thanks.

John Barron''

If you want to know more about West Florida: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Florida

I've looked for marriage records in Virginia, Georgia, NC, SC ... all in vain. Birth records in same. No go.

So Martha Jane is a blank slate that people have been writing upon.

posted by Ed Blair III
edited by Ed Blair III
This is also from: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jcbarron/genealogy/lott/lott99.htm

The Armistead LIGHTFOOT that Kathryn mentions in this email would be, according to my major LIGHTFOOT researchers that I have spoken with, most likely, the brother Phillip (3) LIGHTFOOT, the father of Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT, son of Phillip (2) LIGHTFOOT and Mary ARMISTEAD whose first husband was BURWELL. And just recently I have been in contact with another woman who is tracking information on her ancestral grandmother, which I believe I sent you already.....Margaret Susannah LIGHTFOOT. Her father pops up in Antigua with his family a few years after Phillip (3) was speculated to have passed away at a young age in Virginia. His name is, also, Phillip LIGHTFOOT and after living in Antigua for several years, with his wife Susannah ?? and several children they moved to Georgia and then abt. 1830 Margaret Susannah LIGHTFOOT (KOCH/COOK-CLARKE) died in Alabama. So, the trail and time frame are the same. She, also, married in 1781 the same timeframe as Martha Jane and Absalom and she named her only daughter by her second marriage Martha.</i>

You understand what's being implied here? Philip Lightfoot II - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lightfoot-245 - had a son also named Philip, who has been assumed by Lightfoot family scholars to have died before his father did in 1748.

This person I'm quoting labels this speculation. She says what must really have happened is that this son left Virginia and went to Antigua. This is the birth of Philip Lightfoot III. A long lived Lightfoot of many children not known to stuffy orthodox History. This is the Phillip Lightfoot III, son of Philip Lightfoot II who has a profile in WikiTree. The one I have previously mentioned.

Philip Lightfoot II mentions Susannah Lightfoot in his will, and Susannah has been reckoned to be, by stuffy orthodox History, the widow of his late son. Her maiden name, in orthodox History, is unknown. But here on WikiTree she has become Susannah Smith, daughter of Philip Smith and Mary Mathews. But this Susannah married John Lee, not a Lightfoot.

posted by Ed Blair III
The parents of Martha currently listed in this profile are probably apocryphal. I've made comments in their profiles.

Philip Lightfoot III: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lightfoot-242

Edit: Since I wrote this comment, the apocryphal person, Philip Lightfoot III, has been renamed and isolated from any other profile. The comments remain as a warning.


Susannah (Smith) Lightfoot: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Smith-29582

Edit: Since I wrote this comment, the apocryphal person, Susannah (Smith) Lightfoot, has been expunged from WikiTree by merging her profile into that of an unrelated person. The comments in the linked profile remain.

posted by Ed Blair III
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I removed myself as profile manager, I think you have better information so you should adopt the profile.
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