John Lilly II
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John Lilly II (abt. 1604 - bef. 1644)

John Lilly II aka Lylley
Born about in Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 39 in Milford Haven, York Colony of Virginiamap
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Biography

John Lilly, the immigrant AKA Lylley

Unknown Origins

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John Lilly II was a Virginia colonist.

John was born ca 1607 in England.[1] We do not have any record of his parents.

The profiles of John Lysley and Isabelle Dorlaston have been detached from this profile as parents, as there is no evidence for them.

Possible Associations

Edmund Lilly of Fluvanna County is a possible descendant of this John Lilly. He named a son Armiger. John Lilly II of Gloucester County married Dorothea Wade, daughter of Armiger Wade.[1]

Unfortunately the records of early Gloucester County were destroyed in a fire. The families of Flippen, Lilly, and Bedford all seem to be associated with each other. They probably lived near each other and intermarried. All these families appear in Goochland County around the same time, after 1735.[1]

Immigrated to Charles River County (later York), Virginia Colony

John Lilly and his wife, Mary, were probably from England. We know they were married in England, because John claimed headright land for himself, his wife, and five servants (50 acres each for a total of 350 acres).[1] The land patent was finalized in 1642, but the process was very slow. The year 1637 is often given as the date of their arrival.[1]

We do know that in 1640, the creek adjoining John's initial patent was already known as "Lillys Creek." This name is found in the patent of 16 August 1640 to "Peeter Rygby," which later was sold to Edmund Chisman, the 2nd husband of John's wife, Mary.[

Citing Cavaliers and Pioneers, the land patent dated 20 June 1642:

John Lylley 350 acres on the SW side of Milford Haven being a neck of land near the land of Peter Rigby and Edward Peirsifull. Headrights: For the transfer of himself, wife, and 5 servants: William __; Thomas Stoole (or Steele), John Leake, Eliza __, Ellen Browne.[2]

The family was settled in coastal Virginia, where tobacco was the most important crop; it was used in lieu of money. The important position of official assessor, or "viewer" of tobacco, was nominated and appointed each year by Act of the Assembly.[3] By way of description, the Act read, "chosen and appointed Men of Experience and in dignity for the Careful Viewing of each Man's crop of Tobacco."[3] By 1639, John was considered experienced enough to be appointed. The act read:

From Back creek for the South side of Capt. Wormeley's creek: Mr. John Chew, John Lilly, Abraham English[3]

In the year 1642, as a result of the English Civil War, the Charles River County was renamed as York County. In 1651, the northeastern portion of York County became Gloucester County, and in 1790, it became part of Mathews County.

On June 20, 1642, a dividend parcel of 350 acres were granted to John (Lylly) Lilly and his wife.[4] The land bordered Milford Haven Creek, and was called "Lillies Neck."[4] Ultimately those acres in King's parish were listed in Sections 17 and 22 of Mathews County, Virginia.[4]

Family

John married in England to Mary (Moulson).[1][5] After John's death in 1642, Mary married before 1646, as her 2nd, to Edmund Chisman.[6]

Children:[6]

  1. John Lilly b ca 1640; mar Dorothy Wade

Note: Court record of York County in 1646 confirms the 2nd marriage of Mary to Edmund Chisman, as it calls him stepfather to John Lilly, orphan.[4]

Death and Legacy

John died sometime after 1642, probably at Milford Haven, York County, Virginia Colony. Record of his death has not been found, and we do not know the place of his burial.

The land known as the "Roxbury lands," in now Matthews County, remained in the family and were inherited by descendants of John and Mary.[7]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Byrne, June C. Lilly Records of York, Gloucester, and Mathews Counties, Virginia, Web accessed July 5, 2014
  2. Nugent, Nell M., Cavaliers and pioneers: abstracts of Virginia land patents and grants, 1623-1800. Vol I, Page 132 [1st ed.] Richmond: Dietz Print Co., 1934, Archive.org accessed August 17, 2014
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 "Viewers of Tobacco Crop, 1639: Charles River County", The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, (Vol. 5, No. 2, Oct., 1897, Page 123), Web accessed July 5, 2014
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 "Re: Lilly, John" post by busyldy on 24 Mar 2004, citing Lilly Family 1566-1919, Web accessed May 28, 2014
  5. Byrne, June C., John Lilly I Web accessed July 5, 2014
  6. 6.0 6.1 Thacker, Wanda "John Lilly and Dorothy Wade", Web accessed July 5, 2014
  7. Thacker, Wanda "citing "Records of Colonial Gloucester County, Virginia"", compiled by Mrs. Polly Cary Mason, Web accessed July 5, 2014






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Thank you, Andrea. This may very well be "our" John Lilly. I wonder whether we can find some other corroborating evidence to confirm this is the identical man? Some connection to the place, for instance?

Thank you!

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
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England Births and Christenings Name John Lyllye Gender Male Christening Date 23 May 1605 Christening Date (Original) 23 MAY 1605 Christening Place SAINT JOHN,HACKNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND Father's Name John Lyllye Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPSP-7TT : 30 December 2014, John Lyllye in entry for John Lyllye, 23 May 1605); citing SAINT JOHN,HACKNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 569,924.

posted by Andrea (Stawski) Pack

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