John Lisle
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John Lisle (1609 - 1664)

Sir John "Lord Lisle" Lisle
Born in Wooton, Isle of Wight, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 15 Feb 1632 [location unknown]
Husband of — married 23 Oct 1636 in Ellingham, Hampshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 55 in Lausanne, Vaud, Switzerlandmap
Profile last modified | Created 12 Sep 2010
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European Aristocracy
Sir John Lisle was a member of the aristocracy in British Isles.

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Biography

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John Lisle is Notable.

Sir John Lisle (1610-11 Aug 1664) was the son of Sir William Lisle and Bridget Hungerford. He m. (1)15 Feb 1632 Mary Elizabeth Hobart (d. 15 Mar 1633), da. of Sir. Henry Hobart, chief justice of the common pleas, (w/ £4,000) 1s. William[1] (2) 23 Oct 1636 Alice Beaconshaw (1617-1685), the daughter and co-heir of Sir. White and Lady Edith Beaconshaw 4s 7da[1]

On 25 January 1625 he matriculated as a member of Magdalen Hall, Oxford, and graduated B.A. in February 1625/6. He was called to the bar from the Middle Temple in 1633 and became the bencher of his inn in 1649., He was chosen M.P. for Winchester in March 1639/40, and again in October 1640. [2]

He advocated violent measures on the king’s removal to the north, and obtained some of the plunder arising from the sale of the crown property. To the fund opened on 9 April 1642 for the "speedy reducing of the rebels" in Ireland, Lisle contributed _600. In December 1647, when the king was confined in the Isle of Wight, Lisle was selected as one of the commissioners to carry to him the four bills which were to divest him of all sovereignty. He spoke in the House of Commons on 28 Sept 1648 in favor of rescinding the recent vote, that no one proposition in regard to the personal treaty with the king should be binding if the treaty broke off upon another; and again, some days later, urged a discontinuance of the negotiation with Charles. He took a prominent part in the king’s trial. He was appointed on 8 Feb 1648/9 one of the commissioners of the great seal, and was placed on the council of state. He was a violent anti-royalist, and active promoter of the King's trial, and drafted the sentence. He was present in Westminster Hall, 27 Jan 1648/9, when the sentence was pronounced, though he did not sign the death-warrant.[3]

John was assassinated on 11 Aug 1664, on his way to church, shot dead by an Irishman known as Thomas MacDonnell, who was later revealed to be Sir James Fitz Edmund Cotter. Lisle was buried in the church of the city.

Children of John Lisle and Mary Elizabeth Hobart:

  1. William Lisle (b.11 Mar 1633 d. infant)[4]

Children of John Lisle and Alice Beaconshaw

  1. William Lisle (d. unm 1654)[4]
  2. Beaconshaw LIsle (d. unm 1653) [4]
  3. John Lisle (d. 1709) m. (1) Catherine Croke (d. 17 Oct 1684) 2s. Charles & John (2) 1702 Ann Howe[5]
  4. Alice Lisle (b. 1640) m. July 1657 at St. Margaret's Westminster, Edward Zouch (d. 1658) (2) Oct 1663 Richard Glanville [4]
  5. Elizabeth Lisle m. Dec 1659 Robert Gurdon (b. 1615)[4]
  6. Bridget Lisle m.(1) Leonard Hoar, 3rd president of Harvard; (2) Hezekiah Usher[6]
  7. Tryphena Lisle m.(1) Richard Lloyd, (2) Robert Grove[7]
  8. Margaret Lisle (bapt. 3 July 1643) m. 1672 Rev. Robert Whitaker; lived in Stucton near Fordingbridge[8]
  9. Mary Lisle m. (Matthew?) Browne[9]
  10. Maybella Lisle[9]
  11. Anne Lisle (b. 1664) m. 1 Mar 1686 Edward Harfell[10]

Burial

  • Find A Grave Memorial# 156657455 Sir John Lisle
  • Burial: Church of Lausanne, Lausanne, District de Lausanne, Vaud, Switzerland

Cromwell's Peerage

He is referred as Lord Lisle in multiple sources, by virtue of his appointment to the 'Other House' of Cromwell in 1658.[11]

Research Notes

John Lisle was a notable Regicide and for his subsequent assasination in exile. His wife Alice was notable for being the last woman beheaded in England.

Despite this notability, both the subject of a pretty amazing number of inaccurate statements.

Neither one was the grandparent for Henrietta Crofts, da. of Eleanor Needham and the Duke of Monmouth.

His son John was not married to Elizabeth Hyde and he was not the ancestor of President Andrew Jackson. He was not John Jr. He m. Jane Croke, they had a son and heir Charles, who dsp 1721 and Moyles Court was inherited by a cousin Edward - see Burke's Landed Gentry p. 393.

Discussed in detail here. Link not vailable but if anyone has the correct address pl let me know

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Whitaker, p. 4
  2. Whitaker, p. 5
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, ed. (1916), "Appendix G", Complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct or dormant (Dacre to Dysart) 4, London: The St. Catherine Press, ltd., pp. 622-623
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 Whitaker pp.15-16
  5. Whitaker pp. 19,37
  6. Whitaker p. 19
  7. Whitaker pp.19, 36
  8. Whitaker pp.19-20, 22
  9. 9.0 9.1 Whitaker pp. 19, 204
  10. Whitaker pp. 19, 92, 204
  11. wikipedia:Cromwell's Other House




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1649 Commissioner of the High Court of Justice for the King's (Charles I) Trial MP For Winchester in both the Short and the Long Parliaments Assassinated by an Irish Patriot while coming out of Church during his exile in Switzerland

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Under "Research Notes", the discussion link leads to a 404 error.
posted by Linda Nichols
Lisle-187 and Lisle-3 appear to represent the same person because: Dates match, -187 has prefix 'Lord', he was not a peer.
posted by Kirk Hess
Lisle-3 and Lisle-187 do not represent the same person because: fix direction
posted by Kirk Hess
Lisle-3 and Lisle-187 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate son dates match, -187 is suffixed 'Lord', no idea why.
posted by Kirk Hess