Ida (Longespée) FitzRobert (abt. 1222 - aft. 1262)

Born about 1222 in Salisbury,Wiltshire,England [uncertain]

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Descendants

Died after 11 May 1262 after about age 40 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

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Disambiguation: William Longespee and his wife Ela Salisbury may have had two daughters named Ida. One married Walter FitzRobert. The other married Ralph de Somery and married 2nd William de Beauchamp. See research notes below.^[1][2]

Biography

Ida was the daughter of William Longespée, and Ela, Countess of Salisbury.^[2]

Ida Longespee married circa 1244^[3] Walter FitzRobert, Knight, son and heir of Robert Fitz Walter by Rohese (his 2nd wife).^[1][2][4] They had four known children:

• Robert, Knight^[1][2][4]
• Ela wife of Sir William de Oddingseles^[1][2][4]
• Katherine, who became a nun^[1][2][4]
• Lora, who became a nun.^[1][2][4]

In 1261-1263 Ida submitted a petition to Walter de Merton, the royal Chancelor, to allow bail for two of her men charged with homicide.^[2]

Ida Longespee was living on 11 May 1262.^[1][2]

Research Notes

As noted above, according to Douglas Richardson there were two daughters of William de Longespée and Ela, Countess of Salisbury who were called Ida.^[2] The Annals and Antiquities of Lacock Abbey gives only one^[4], as does the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography entry for William^[5]: both of these give Walter FitzRobert as her first husband and William de Beauchamp as her second.

There is some discussion of Ida and her parentage in a 2013 thread, Ida Longespee vs. Ida Longespee??, in soc.genealogy.medieval.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6} Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Vol. II, pp. 650-651, #7, WALTER FITZROBERT
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.9} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. II, pp. 205-206, FITZ WALTER 2
3. ↑ Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins, [Ida Longespee
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5} William Lisle Bowles and John Gough Nichols. Annals and Antiquities of Lacock Abbey, pub. John Bowyer Nichols and Son, London, 1835, pp. 162-164, Internet Archive
5. ↑ Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - 'Longespée [Lungespée], William, third earl of Salisbury', 2004, revised online 2010, available online via some libraries

• Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry:
  • Vol. I. p. 448
  • Vol. II, pp. 650-651, #7, WALTER FITZROBERT
  • Vol. III. p. 610
• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
• Bowles, William Lisle and Nichols, John Gough. Annals and Antiquities of Lacock Abbey, pub. John Bowyer Nichols and Son, London, 1835
• Bradley, Hal. A Royal Descent for John Stratton, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 2006) Vol. 160, Page 106.

• This source shows different parents. Footnote #28 explains this with additional sources.