John
Lyon
Born in Ruislip, Middlesex, England
Ancestors 
Son of John Lyon
and Emma (Hedde) Lyon
Husband of
Jean Lyon
— married
[date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Thomas Lyon and William Lyon
Died [date unknown]
[location unknown]
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Biography
This John Lyon, of Stanmore, has previously been misidentified on the internet as the well-known John Lyon who founded Harrow School. But according to the Lyon Memorial books, it was a different John Lyon, of Preston (in Harrow), Middlesex, who founded Harrow School.[1] The two Johns lived a few miles apart, were of similar age and were 1st cousins once removed, according to this (confusingly presented) account. The other John (founder of Harrow) is said to have died childless, or at least without surviving issue.
However, the books cite no sources, and the History of Harrow School supplies the founder with a different grandfather. So it could be that this John was more distantly related to the founder, if indeed this John existed at all.
The suggestion is that the founder's father John was simply attached to a convenient known family elsewhere, when research would have determined that he had long antecedents in Harrow itself.
Since the immigrant was conveniently connected to the same family, it's probably unlikely that the connection is correct. What is not clear is the status of the unsourced intervening generations in that connection to the immigrant.
Sources
- ↑ Lyons, Albert Brown. Lyon Memorial: Massachusetts Families (W. Graham Print Company, 1905) Page 12. Also on archive.org. See also the companion book by Sidney Elizabeth Lyons, Page 26.
- Welles, Albert: American Family Antiquity, Vol. 2 (1881), p. 96, #33.
- For Harrow School and its founder, see
- Thornton, Percy M: "Harrow School and its Surroundings" (1885). See p. 56 for the "vain endeavour" to connect the immigrant.
Acknowledgments
- Thank you to Wiley Walters for creating WikiTree profile Lyon-732 through the import of Wiley Woodrow Walters Jr. (1).ged on Feb 5, 2013. Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Wiley and others.
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Rejected matches › John (Lyon) Lyon Seventh Lord Glamis (abt.1515-bef.1559) › Unknown Lynne (abt.1510-)
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There is a brass plate in the church recording his death on the 3rd. London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1812; Reference Number: DRO/003/A/01/001 According to wikipedia (and have not established it, he was the son of John Lyon and his wife Joan Mosley. A picture of the Memorial is here history of harrow school see also page 21 for evidence that he died childless.
William Lyon Born: About 1540 - Little Stanmore, Middlesex, England Died: September 7, 1624 - Little Stanmore, Middlesex, England Buried: September 17, 1624 - Middlesex, England Revised January 23, 2011 William Lyon was born in about 1540 in Little Stanmore, Middlesex, England (Little Stanmore is today part of greater London). By some accounts, William was the oldest child of John Lyon, the 7th Lord of Glamis (1509-1592) and Lady Janet Keith (1515-1559). By other accounts (most notably the "Lyon Memorial", published in 1905) he was the oldest child of John Lyon (a different John Lyon than the 7th Lord of Glamis) and his wife, Joan (surname unknown). If the former is true, the "Lyon" line of William Lyon's ancestors can be traced back to the 11th century. If the latter is true, William Lyon's more distant direct "Lyon" ancestors become uncertain. However, the very fact that William carried the "Lyon" surname and came from that region of England where much of the extended Lyon family resided, strongly indicates that William descended from a common "Lyon" ancestor. A third possibility, of course, is that William was the bastard son of John Lyon, the 7th Lord of Glamis, with the "other" John Lyon an invention of convenience. The most ancient Lyon ancestor generally known was Ingelram de Leouns, born about 1020 in the Normandy area of France. Ingelram de Leouns may (there is no conclusive proof) have accompanied William the Conqueror in the successful invasion of England in 1066, and by virtue of his service was awarded land that established the Lyon family as Lords in feudal England. Ingelram's son, Sir Roger de Leonne, born about 1040, unlike his father, is known to have existed and some facts of his life are not in dispute. It is probable that William Lyon was a descendent of these early "Lyons", but the direct line from Sir Roger de Leonne to William Lyon is uncertain. Little is known about William Lyon. Sometime before 1578, William Lyon, then about age 39, married Isabelle Wightman. Isabelle Wightman was born in 1559 (therefore about 19 years younger than William) in Harrow-on-the-Hill, Middlesex, England. She was the daughter of William Wightman (1526-1578) and Audrey Deering (1530-1596) of Coventry, Middlesex, England. William Wightman, in turn, was the son of Richard Wightman (1500-1530) and Elizabeth Purcell (1500-1530) of Harrow, England. All these earlier birth and death years are considered approximations. Between 1578 and 1590, William and Isabelle had five children; John (1578), William (1580), Isabelle (1582), Audrey (1584) and Robert (or Richard) (1590). On September 7, 1624, in Little Stanmore, William Lyon, age 84, died. He was buried on September 17th. Although not known, it is assumed he was buried in Little Stanmore. It is not known when Isabelle Wightman Lyon died. source: stagge-parker.blogspot.com/2011/08/william-lyon-1546-1624.html