Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog (abt. 1325 - abt. 1362)

Born about 1325 in Coity, Morgannwg, Cymru

Ancestors

Husband of Crisli Joan ferch Rhun — married [date unknown] in Glamorganshire, Wales

Descendants

Died about 1362 at about age 37 in Wales

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Biography

Name

Name: Gruffydd Gethin ap Madog

AFN: FHLK-0N

Name: Gruffudd ap Madog ^[1]

Name: Gruffydd Gethyn ap Madoc

Birth and Parents

Gruffudd Gethyn, also Griffith Gethin

Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog ap Meurig ab Ieuan ap Gwilym ab Aeddan ap Gwaithfoed of Gwent^[2]

Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog was born about 1325 at Coity, Morgannwg, Cymru.^[3]

Parents:

Father: Madog ap Meurig ap Ieuan (b 1300 in Coity, Morgannwg)^[4]

Mother: Gwladus ferch Gruffudd Goeg (b about 1300 in Morgannwg)^[4]

Marriage to Joan

Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog married Joan, daughter of Rhun^[4] of Cibwr^[5] by Joan ferch Aaron.^[6]

Issue

Children by Joan ferch Rhun ap Gronwy Fychan ap Gronwy ap Llywarch^[4]

• Ieuan m Crisli f. Gawdyn^[7][8]
• Dafydd (living 1391)
• Jenkin
• Gwenllian m John Wilkin Hen, son of Robert Winchester of Llandŵ^[7]

Marriage to Margaret

He married (2) Margaret ferch Bryn.^[3]

"Sir Griffith Gethyn... was Knighted by King Richard II in Ireland. Was also Knight of the Holy Sepulchor...."^[9][10]

Knighted

He was knighted in the Irish Wars

Research Notes

Estimated Death Date: Died 1358 changed to born about 1362 to accommodate profiles attached as children with birth years of 1360 and 1362 (Dafydd & Jenkin), although both of those profiles were created by the "Genealogy worksheets compiled by Ralph Pryor..." and neither mentions a birth year in the text.

Sources

1. ↑ Glenn, p. 119.
2. ↑ Gwaithfoed 1, Gwaithfoed 3, Gwaithfoed 4 (#Bartrum)
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog - was Rootsweb entry from the database for Celtic Royal Genealogy, citing
   
   • Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, Thomas Nicholas (London: Longmans, Green, Reeder, 1875), Page: II:578
   • The Mathew Mathes Family in America, I C VanDeventer (1929), Page: 13
   • Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1400, Peter Clement Bartrum (Publication: 8 Vols. Cardiff, 1974, microfiche edition, 1980), Page: Bleddyn ap Cynfyn 56, p.83; Gwaithfoed 4, p.472 (online courtesy of The Bartrum Project)
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3} Bartrum, Celtic Royal Genealogy
5. ↑ Rhun living 1316 (Bartrum)
6. ↑ [Bl ap M 40] (Bartrum)
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1} Bartrum
8. ↑ Ieuan is father of Ellen m Hywel Button and Mathew/Madog m f. Jenkin Fleming - noted on Gwaithfoed 4 that Mathew and Madog are the same person
9. ↑ Mathew Genealogical Research Foundation, citation for text entry for Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog in Rootsweb database of Celtic Royal Genealogy). Text is from this page.
10. ↑ Only possibility of him being "Knighted by King Richard II in Ireland" that I can find in Knights of England:
    1399. In June in the County Kildare, King Richard II. made several Knights, among them Prince Henry of Lancaster, afterwards King Henry V. He was the only Sovereign of England who received the honour of Knighthood in Ireland.

See also:

• Glenn, Thomas Allen, Merion in the Welsh Tract: With Sketches of the Townships of Haverford and Radnor. Historical and Genealogical Collections Concerning the Welsh Barony in the Province of Pennsylvania, Settld by the Cymric Quakers in 1682, Volume 3 (Google eBook)
• Lyle, William Thomas. The Thomas Family, as Descended from David and Anna Noble Thomas, p. 16. Published 1908. Original from the University of Wisconsin - Madison. Digitized Jan 18, 2008. Bairfield-1 02:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• The Bartrum Project, digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum (mirrored from the defunct Cadair site by Geni: Bartrum Genealogical Project - free login required to access the charts). See additional information about Cadair in G2G.
  • Bleddyn ap Cynfyn 56, ancestry of Joan ferch Rhun
  • Gwaithfoed 4, Gruffudd Gethyn's family
• Entries from the Rootsweb database for Celtic Royal Genealogy, the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (according to Prof. Myron Wyn Evans, in his book O Hudd Ei Ddoe (2012). Unfortunately, the database entries are no longer accessible ("503 Service Temporarily Unavailable", as of 20 September 2023).
  • Gruffudd Gethyn ap Madog
  • Madog ap Meurig (his father)
  • Gwladus ferch Gruffudd Goeg (his mother)
  • Joan ferch Rhun (his first wife)
  • Ieuan ap Gruffudd Gehtyn (his son - one of four children listed by his wife Joan)

• "Sorting out the Gwaithfoeds," by Darrell Wolcott, posted by The Center for the Study of Ancient Wales (accessed Jan. 14, 2016)
• Mat(t)hews of Wales (same author as Mathew Genealogical Research Foundation, possibly same information, but different presentation)
• The Internet Surname Database: Gethyn: 'the Old Welsh personal byname "Cethin, Gethyn", from "cethin", meaning "dusky, swarthy", and probably originated as a nickname for a dark (haired) person.'

• https://ontariofamilyhistory.org/tng_2017_11/getperson.php?personID=I13048&tree=bobmillie&sitever=standard accessed 6 Feb 2021
• Charles Ragland Jr book Vol II

• Wikidata: Item Q110621967 - leads to Genealogics entries for
  • Gwladus ferch Gruffudd Goeg, which cites
    - [S03371] Clark, George T., Limbus Patrum Morganiae et Glamorganiae (1886) . 7
    - [S04744] Bartrum, Dr. Peter Clement, Welsh Genealogies 300-1400 8 vols and 1400-1500 18 vols . Gwaithfoed 4, 6
  • Ieuan ap Gruffudd ap Madog ap Meurig of Brynwith, citing
    - [S04744] Bartrum, Dr. Peter Clement, Welsh Genealogies 300-1400 8 vols and 1400-1500 18 vols . Gwaithfoed 4
    - [S03371] Clark, George T., Limbus Patrum Morganiae et Glamorganiae (1886) . 7