Hamon Massy III, baron of Dunham-Massy[1]
There are no extant records of when or where Hamon was born, but he was probably born at Dunham Massey. Historically also spelt Doneham, Doneham Mascy and myriad other ways, Dunham Massey was a major settlement in the parish of Bowdon, Bucklow hundred, Cheshire, England.[2]
Hamon was the son and heir of Hamon Massy, the second of Dunham Massy.[1] After his father's death, Hamon succeeded him as the 3rd Hamon Massy of Dunham-Massy.
Hamon was the brother of:
Hamon married Agatha, who styled herself Agatha de Theray.[1]
Hamon and Agatha had children:
Hamon gave to Robert, son of Waltheof, all the land which his father Waltheof held of Hamon and his ancestors, which was Etchels, held by the service of half a knight's fee, and restored Bredbury and Brininton to Robert for finding a sumpter-horse and a man, and a sack for the carriage of his arms and apparel, when the earl of Chester in person lead an army into Wales; and giving aid to Hamon for redeeming his body if he is taken prisoner, and for making his eldest son a knight, and when his eldest daughter married.[1]
Birkenhead Priory was founded in 1150 by Hamon de Massey of Dunham Massey and the monks, who followed the Benedictine rule, were known as black monks because of the dark robes they wore.[3] Birkenhed Priory is in Wirral and Oliver was prior in the reign of King John[1] [1199-1216].
Hamon de Massey, "the famous Cheshire baron" held Stockport against Henry II, king of England, on behalf of Hugh, earl of Chester, in the great rebellion of 1173.[4]
Hamon de Massy, of Dunham Massey, in 1212 held Stretford by serjeanty, with Henry de Stretford holding two oxgangs of Hamon. Circa 1250, Hamon de Massy IV gave the whole town of Stretford to Maud, his daughter, who later as the widow of Roger Pain of Ashburn, released Stretford to Henry Trafford. In 1284, Henry de Trafford had a charter of free warren in his manors of Trafford and Stretford.[5]
Hamon died about the reign of king John or at the beginning of Henry III's reign, survived by his wife, Agatha.[1] Henry III became king of England in 1216.
There were multiple men named Hamon Massey, who were successive barons of Dunham-Massey, and some researchers believe it is unlikely that the Hamon who founded Birkenhead Priory was the same man who in 1212 held Stretford by serjeanty.
Some researchers also believe that the Hamon who died about 1216 was probably Hamon IV, this Hamon's son. However, William Farrer states "circa 1250, Hamon de Massy IV ..."[5]
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The reference being cited here gives no page number but I guess this is it https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924088434034&seq=639 It mentions no husband at all.
edited by Andrew Lancaster
I believe that there is a 1212 marriage record of an old Hamon de Massey to Cecile Gernet, the widow of William Gernet, who died shortly after (possibly in 1216) but before she married thirdly to William Le Villein in about 1224. It’s not known if that is this Hamon or possibly his son.
Are these dates tied to contemporary primary-source evidence, charters, inheritances etc?
One thing to be wary of is confusion/conflation of multiple relatives of same name.
edit: typo I notice, two years later...
edited by Isaac Taylor
"Hamon founded the priory of Birkenhed in Wirral, inhabited by the order of the Black Monks, which had a church dedicated to St James, and of which Oliver was prior in the reign of King John.[1] Birkenhead Priory was founded in 1150.
In 1212, Hamon de Massy of Dunham Massy, held Stretford by serjeanty.[2]"
OK, so if the implication is this Hamon founded Birkenhead Priory in 1150, then it's highly problematic for him to have been born in 1133 (17-year olds don't usually make expensive land grants or fork over big money) and would be rare even for a 25-year old man... and much more plausible for his father of same name, at first glance. (How are we sure his father died "about 1140" I wonder?)
Similarly, adult men making bequests etc in 1150, are highly unlikely to still be alive in 1212 -- 62 years later. Or live into their 80s (let alone into their 90s) in the 12th or 13th century, given all the fighting and dis-ease etc. So, for these reasons, I worry we may have conflated statements about and dates describing multiple discrete men (at least two, perhaps even three generations?) into one synthetic composite profile. Thoughts?
Which contemporary primary sources prove what? The in-line citations suggest we're relying heavily (entirely?) on the 1882 Ormerod; and then pinning-on the 1212 Stretford factoid from the 1899 Farrer. How are we sure either of these secondary sources is correct-- or even describing the same man?
Respectfully,
edited by Isaac Taylor