Alexander
of Fortingall
formerly Menzies
Born about [location unknown]
Ancestors 
Son of Thomas (Menzies) de Menzies of Fortingall
and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Janet (de Atholia) Menzies
— married
[date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Janet (Menzies) Stewart
Died after
after about age 32
[location unknown]
Profile last modified
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Biography
This profile is part of the Menzies Name Study.
Alexander (Menzies) of Fortingall is a member of Clan Menzies.
Alexander was the son and heir of Sir Thomas de Menzies.[1] Following his father's death, he granted the lands of Oyne, which he inherited, to Archibald Weschell.[2] The lands of Fortingall were confirmed to him under the Great Seal[2]and on 9 March 1381 he received a charter from Euphemia, countess of Ross, granting him Fechelly in Aberdeenshire. An index, drawn up about the year 1629, of many records of charters, granted by the different sovereigns of Scotland between the years 1309 and 1413, most of which records have been long missing. With an introduction, giving a state, founded on authentic documents still preserved, of the ancient records of Scotland, which were in that kingdom in the year 1292. To which is subjoined, indexes of the persons and places mentioned in those charters ... by Great Britain. [3]
This Sir Alexander de Menzies married Janet de Atholl, the daughter of Robert de Atholl.[1][4] There was one child from this marriage:
- Janet de Menzies; m. James Stewart[1]
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 MacGregor, Gordon. The Red Book of Scotland. Scotland: by the author (2016), rev. 2020, vol. 6, p. 722.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Robertson's Index; cited in MacGregor, Gordon. The Red Book of Scotland. Scotland: by the author (2016), rev. 2020, vol. 6, p. 722.
- ↑ General Register Office (Scotland) 1n; Robertson, William, 1740-1803, Published 1798: Edinburgh, Printed by Murray & Cochrane.
- ↑ The Genealogy of the Families of Douglas of Mulderg and Robertson of Kindeace with their Descendants. Dingwall: A.M. Ross & Company,(1895), p. 49 available online.
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Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 111 markers, haplogroup R-FT266266, FTDNA kit #IN29196 - William Menzies :
Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 111 markers, haplogroup R-M269, FTDNA kit #941236
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Regarding his wife Janet/Jean, daughter of Robert of Atholl: Either the author of the Red & White book is mistaken and the father is not Robert Stewart but Robert Donnchaidh (later clan Robertson) whose father was also called 'of Atholl', or the Robertsons are mistaken and Alexander's current wife should be disconnected. (I don't have access to the Red Book of Scotland to see what they think)
Something's up with Alexander's birth date (I don't see a source for that), or else he is a grandson of one of the brothers, not a son. The Red & White book does say he was married around 1370 - he could have been 50-70 at the time, I suppose, but consider he has a child by Janet.