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Ansbertus (Metz) de Rodez (0536 - 0570)

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Ansbertus (Ansbert) de Rodez formerly Metz aka von Schelde
Born in Moselle, Old, Sachsen, Germanymap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] in DISPUTEDmap
Died in Schelde, Moselle, Austrasiamap
Metz-182 created 7 Feb 2012 | Last modified
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Categories: Disputed Existence | Arnulfing.

Non-existent person? Research suggests that this person may never have existed.
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Ansbertus; Ansbert; Anspert[1][2]

Contents

Parents

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The parents of Ansbert are UNKNOWN.[3]


Spouse and Issue

Ansbert seems to be a fanciful way to connect the Merovingians, the Arnulfings, the Pippinids, and the Carolingians. Leaving him in place in the tree as husband of Blichildis and father of Arnold is a concession to traditional genealogies, but unlikely, in the extreme, to be historical.

Wikipedia -- "Ansbertus or Ansbert, Ausbert was a Frankish Austrasian noble, as well as a Gallo-Roman Senator. He is thought to be the son of Ferreolus, Senator of Narbonne and his wife Saint Dode .... Little of his actual life is known. Published centuries later Liber Historiae Francorum states that an Ansbertus married Blithilde (also called Bilichilde), and that she was the daughter of "Lothar the father of Dagobert", and then continues the line to the Pippinids through his son Arnoald and his granddaughter Itta (wife of Pepin of Landen). ... The chronological problems with the line as presented in Chronicle of the Kings of England", William of Malmesbury, page 64, have led modern genealogists to try to re-construct the line in various ways to fix them."[4]


m. (fictional spouse - 9th century invention) Bilichildis (Blithildis) Issue: 5[5][6]

  • Arnold (9th century invention; largely disputed father of Arnulf, Bishop of Metz)[7][8]
  • Feriolus
  • Modericus
  • Tharsicia
  • ________

Mythical Occupation

  • mythical Roman senator[9]

Sources

Brubaker, L. & Smith, J.M.H. (2004). "Pippinid wives." Gender in the Early Medieval World: East and West, 300-900. Cambridge University Press. eBook.[10] Citing:

  • Commenmoratio genealogiae domni Karoli gloriosissimi imperatoris (9th century)
  • Genealogia regum Francorum (citing Commenmoratio genealogiae domni ...)
  • Blithildis genuit Arnaldum ex Ansberto illustri viro


Cawley, C. (2006). Medieval Lands v.3.[11] citing:

  • Chronico Marcianensi de Sancta Rictrude
  • Liber HistoriƦ Francorum
  • Chronico Marcianensi de Sancta Rictrude'
  • Carmen de Exordio Gentis Francorum
  • Chronico Marcianensi de Sancta Rictrude


Wikipedia: Ansbertus



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see fictional pedigree,[12] and main profile[13]



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Collaboration

On 2 Dec 2015 at 20:06 GMT Unknown Unknown wrote:

No. But they're all the same fictional character, designed to "to connect Merovingians, Arnulfings, Pippinids, Carolingians" ... and even the Romans. So Metz, Moselle, Ferroleus, Austrasia, Narbonne, etc. We've found about 20 or so duplicates to date. Don't be afraid to merge duplicates into this main profile.

Thx for helping, and happy holidays!:)

On 2 Dec 2015 at 13:47 GMT David Rentschler wrote:

De Meroving-4 and Metz-182 are not ready to be merged because: are they real people?

On 30 Nov 2015 at 04:53 GMT David Rentschler wrote:

DeMoselle-1 and Metz-182 are not ready to be merged because: are they real?

On 25 Nov 2015 at 22:04 GMT Unknown Unknown wrote:

This is another duplicate of Ansbertus... it's from the fictional pedigree that tries to attach him to the Gallo-Roman senatorial family of Ferroleus (see main profile for explanation).[1]

On 19 Oct 2015 at 20:49 GMT Unknown Unknown wrote:

I'm siding with Roger, and disconnecting him from the Ferroleus line. There's no real proof to back up Wikipedia's opening thesis.[1] Note that in the list of the encyclopedia's sources, they do cite Smith (2005), stating:
"The Carolingian dynasty...appropriated the Roman past into its ancestry by a genealogy that claimed that its sainted (and historically attested) founder, Arnulf of Metz (d.c. 643) was the grandson of the (mythical) Merovingian princess Blithild and her (equally mythical) husband Ansbert, hailed as a Roman senator."[2]

On 6 Sep 2014 at 13:09 GMT Renee Malloy wrote:

Metz-182 and Senator-9 appear to represent the same person because: Married to same wife, died at same time, same parents, etc.

On 24 Mar 2014 at 15:52 GMT Bob Fields wrote:

Of Metz-43 and Metz-182 appear to represent the same person because: Same name (Ansbertus/Ausbertus of Metz), similar birth/death years. Spouse Blithilde also has a proposed merge.

On 24 Mar 2014 at 15:48 GMT Bob Fields wrote:

Of Narbonne-14 and Ferreolus-14 appear to represent the same person because: Same name (Ferreolus), approxminately the same birth/death, children and spouses are also in the process of being merged.

On 23 Feb 2012 at 00:56 GMT Roger Travis Jr. wrote:

No evidence of his parentage exists. Cf. his article on Wikipedia. Fanciful parentage has been unlinked, but would seek to bring his lineage back to the Roman Empire.



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