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John Miller Jr (bef. 1633 - 1693)

John Miller Jr
Born before in Buckland-in-Dover, Kent, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1659 in Moate, County Westmeath, Irelandmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 59 in Balinagarbery, County Westmeath, Irelandmap
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John was a Friend (Quaker)

John Miller, son of John Miller, was bom at Breckenbrough, in the Parish of Kirkby Wiske, in Yorkshire, in 1633.[1][2] He went over into Ireland as a planter, in 1657, and married Ann, daughter of William Clibborn, who was bom in 1630 in Cowley, in the County of Durham, England.[3] Their children were:

  1. William, b. 1659, at Moate
  2. Margaret, b. 1662, Shurrch ? d. 1668
  3. John, b. 1665, at Moate
  4. Thomas, b. 1667, at Ballynalinch
  5. Abraham, b. 1670, at Glin, County West Meath
  6. Isaac, b. 1672, at Glin, County West Meath. (Potts, Our Family Ancestors, 245-6.)"[4]

He died in Jan 1693 while residing at Balinagarbery, County Westmeath and was buried at Moateagrenoge (Moate).[5]

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Research Notes

This John Miller did not die in America. The FindAGrave record is incorrect.

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile Miller-7315 created through the import of O'Bryan Family tree.ged on Sep 6, 2011 by Tim Tropeck.
  • WikiTree profile Miller-5644 created through the import of 10_s family tree.ged on Jun 23, 2011 by Tenielle Hoefener.

John Miller. [6][7][8][9][10][11]

Born 1633 BRECHENBROUGH, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND. [12][13][14][15][16] 1635 Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA. 1633 Yorkshire County, England. Found multiple copies of birth date. Using 1633

Residence Chester, Pennsylvania. [17] New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania. [18]

Event: Arrival 1656 America

Baptism: 19 Jan 1633. Winchelsea, Sussex, England.

Marriage Husband @P815@. Wife @P814@. Child: @P810@. Child: @P822@. Marriage 28 Aug 1664. St George the Martyr, Surrey, England. Marriage 1657 Kerbywilt Parish, Ireland. John, like many generations to come, was a Quaker. He was born in Brechenbrough, Yorks, England. He married Ann Clibben in 1657 in Ireland. I have a bit on information on him and am searching Chester Co. records for more detailed aspects of his life.... will be adding/updating asap. Land was in the New Garden area and several Millers were a part of New Garden MM, including a namesake grandson. [19]

Birth

Birth 1633 Lancashire, Eng

Death

Death Westmeath


Marriage

Husband: John 2 Miller
Wife: @I1933@
Child: John Miller
Marriage 1657 Ire
Husband: John 1 Miller
Child: John 2 Miller
Marriage 1632 Breckenbrough, Yorkshire, Eng

John was born about 1633. He passed away in 1714. [20]

Sources

  1. “Ireland, Society Of Friends (Quaker) Births,” database with images, FindMyPast (https://www.findmypast.ie/transcript?id=IRE%2FQUAKER%2FBIRTH%2F46136 : accessed 02 August 2019), birth of John Miller in Breckenbrough, Yorkshire in 1633, father: John; citing Register of births, MOATE, 1859, Religious Society Of Friends In Ireland Archives.
  2. http://www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info/English%20sites/2043.html
  3. “Ireland, Society Of Friends (Quaker) Family List,” database with images, FindMyPast (https://search.findmypast.ie/record?id=IRE%2FQUAKER%2FMM1VM-1%2F0017&parentid=IRE%2FQUAKER%2FBURS%2F8102 : accessed 02 August 2019), family of John Miller and Ann Clibborn; citing Moate MM family lists 1660-1782 with testimonies and minutes, Religious Society Of Friends In Ireland Archives.
  4. http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/albert-cook-myers/immigration-of-the-irish-quakers-into-pennsylvania-1682-1750--with-their-early-rey/page-23-immigration-of-the-irish-quakers-into-pennsylvania-1682-1750--with-their-early-rey.shtml Albert Cook Myers. Immigration of the Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania, 1682-1750 : with their early history in Ireland online. (page 23 of 36)
  5. “Ireland, Society Of Friends (Quaker) Deaths,” database with images, FindMyPast (https://www.findmypast.ie/transcript?id=IRE%2FQUAKER%2FBURS%2F8101 : accessed 02 August 2019), death of John Miller in 11mo (Jan) 1692; citing Moate MM family lists 1660-1782 with testimonies and minutes, Religious Society Of Friends In Ireland Archives.
  6. Source: #S-2042035775 Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genealogy-glh12575318&h=279&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Residence date: Residence place: USA
  7. Source: #S-2042035802 Source number: 411.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JWV. Note: Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #834729 Birth date: 1633Birth place: YoMarriage date: 1657Marriage place:
  8. Source: #S-2042035788 Place: America; Year: 1656; Page Number: 77. Note: Ancestry Record pili354 #338480 Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1656Arrival place: America
  9. Source: #S-2042035815 Ancestry Family Trees https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/17603875/person/568977116/facts
  10. Source: #S256247578 Database online. Record for Jessica S Jonckheere
  11. Source: #S256247580 Database online. Record for Laura J Jonckheere
  12. Source: #S-904391116 Source number: 411.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JWV
  13. Source: #S-904221956
  14. Source: #S-904391116 Source number: 242.073; Source type: Family group sheet (from "Gleanings"), listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1
  15. Source: #S-904248743 Place: America; Year: 1656; Page Number: 77
  16. Source: #S-905815574
  17. Source: #S-902864536 Swarthmore College; Swarthmore, Pennsylvania; Minutes, 1813-1824; Collection: Quaker Meeting Records; Call Number: MR Ph:340
  18. Source: #S1103108822
  19. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150260493
  20. Source will be added by Christopher Fisher by 19 Dec 2019.

See also:

  • Ancestry.com. Kent, England, Tyler Index to Parish Registers, 1538-1874
John Miller
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1633
Baptism Date: 7 Apr 1633
Baptism Place: Buckland-in-Dover, Kent
Relation: Son
Father: John Miller
  1. Albert Cook Myers. Immigration of the Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania, 1682-1750 : with their early history in Ireland online. (page 23 of 36)




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The Ireland Quaker team and the Quakers project have been reviewing the familes of Quakers called Miller including those who emmigrated to Pennsylvania. Our results are in the freespage page https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Irish_Quaker_Millers%2C_and_the_emigration_to_Pennsylvania and g2g post https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1729643/quaker-miller-families-of-ulster-and-pennsylvania.

As a result of this work, I plan to make significant changes to this profile

- detaching John Miller from his parents who are plainly wrong

- deleting the 'Jr' suffix to his name

- altering his place of birth to Yorkshire

- detaching John Miller who emigrated to Pennsylvania, who was not related to this family

- adding a new son John Miller born in Westmeath in 1665 and died there unmarried in 1708

- deleting essentially all of the text in the current profile after the description of his burial in Moategrenoge and replacing it with a research note stating that the genealogies linking him to the imigrant are wrong.

Reasoned responses to this analysis are welcome here, in the comments section of the freespace page or in the g2g post. I plan to start making changes in about a week.

posted by Alan Watson
edited by Alan Watson
The contemporary Quaker records tell us clearly that this person came from Yorkshire. Why do we have (all in the same profile)

- birth in Dover, Kent,

- birth in Yorkshire

- birth in Lancashire

- birth in Connecticut

This is rubbish.

There also seems to be no source whatsoever for his father, and the ancestry shown is preposterous. Apparently, this Yorkshire family had its roots in Antrim. That is, his grandfather was born in Antrim, but his great grandfather was born and died in Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire.

It is hard to imagine anything less likely.

posted by Alan Watson
Miller-71625 and Miller-5644 appear to represent the same person because: same birthdate, same birthplace, same wife
posted by Paul Hancock
Secondary sources connect John with these parents, but not Gayen. Ancestry proposes a MM record as showing John father and son, but the image shows 1820 (!).
posted on Miller-71625 (merged) by Tim Prince
England Places list has no Brechenbrough, in Yorkshire or anywhere in England. The closest name is Brecks, Yorkshire. Broken Branch, Yorkshire does not show up on the Lists either. Also, there is no Cowley, it should be Copley.

All the records I've seen has Ann Clibborn, not Clibben (as you have in the Bio.).

Miller-18032 and Miller-5644 appear to represent the same person because: same birtn and death years, same spouse. Same FindAGrave. Son died in PA same year as father (this profile) in Ireland, cited MM reference, exact death date, and probate (sometimes confused with death date) probably apply to son and should be removed from this profile.
posted by Tim Prince
Miller-7315 and Miller-5644 appear to represent the same person because: closely aligned, Miller-5644, the LNAB, has the more likely data.
posted by Sandy Culver

Rejected matches › John Miller (abt.1631-1711)

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