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Andrew (Moray) Murray Third Lord of Bothwell (bef. 1280 - aft. 1297)

Andrew Murray Third Lord of Bothwell formerly Moray
Born before in Bothwell Castle, Glasgow, Strathclyde, Scotlandmap
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Died after after age 17 in Battle of Stirling Bridge, Stirlingshire, Scotlandmap [uncertain]
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Biography

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Andrew (Moray) Murray Third Lord of Bothwell is Notable.
Andrew (Moray) Murray Third Lord of Bothwell is a member of Clan Murray.

Andrew Moray was the son of Andrew Murray. [1][2]

Sir Andrew Moray, alongside his father, was captured during the siege of Dunbar in April 1296 and subsequently detained at Chester Castle, though his imprisonment was brief. By 24 Jul 1297, he had become a leader of men in Morayshire, challenging pro-English garrisons. Despite receiving a safe conduct from Edward I on 28 Aug 1297 to visit his father in the Tower of London, Sir Andrew chose to remain actively involved in the Scottish resistance. He played a crucial role in the Battle of Stirling Bridge on 11 Sept 1297, fighting alongside Sir William Wallace, where he was mortally wounded. Notably, he survived until at least 7 Nov 1297, as evidenced by a letter of protection jointly issued with Wallace to the Monks of Hexham. His death occurred shortly after this, with the exact date unknown. Sir Andrew’s legacy persisted through his posthumous son, also named Andrew Moray. An inquest held on 10 Nov 1300 confirmed that this son, who was two years old at the last Pentecost and residing in Moray among the King’s adversaries, was the lawful heir to the lands of William de Moray of Bothwell. [1][2]

Research Notes

No date of birth is available. It is known that he was old enough to go to battle in 1296 placing his birth comfortably before 1280.
It is unclear whether it was this Andrew or his father who had married the daughter of John Comyn.

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Paul, James Balfour. "The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom", Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1905, Vol. II, Archive.org, p. 126
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 MacGregor, Gordon. The Red Book of Scotland. Vol. VII. Mit – Orr. First published 2016. 2023 edition. Page 241. www.redbookofscotland.co.uk, 2023.

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John Macdonald
I note this profile and his son are both marked as III of Bothwell
posted by John Macdonald
[Living Anderson]
Noted! I should think that correction should be made after reconciling differences between 'Scots Peerage' and 'Red Book of Scotland' and determining who ought to be considered the first of Bothwell, then the latter heirs of the title can be numbered in sequence.
posted by [Living Anderson]
Trice-256 Fletcher Trice
There are three relatives named Andrew Murray / Moray to get correct. Andrew who died in the Tower (grandfather), Andrew of Sterling Bridge (father) and Andrew who died after his father (Sterling Bridge) had already died. The other children will be easier to place once the three Andrews are in place with proper dates.

A Wikipedia article does this quite well plus it includes sources. Please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Moray_(justiciar)

Sources include:

  • Barrow, G.W.S. "Robert Bruce and the Community of the Realm", Fourth Edition, 2005;
  • The Original Chronicle of Andrew of Wyntoun ed. F.J. Amours. vol v, Edinburgh 1907.
  • Balfour Paul, Sir James, Scots Peerage ix vols, Edinburgh 1904.
posted by Fletcher Trice
edited by Fletcher Trice
Macgillivray-294 Deborah Macgillivray
Is this certain that William de Moray and Margaret de Moray are the children of this Andrew, the hero of Stirling Bridge? William is listed as born by Maud Comyn, but the marriage didn't take place to three years the birth of William. Margaret is listed as mother unknown, a couple years behind William. These two are nearly two decades older than his son Andrew, who married Christina Bruce. William would be around 28 years older than the son born around the time of Sir Andrew's death after Stirling. Sounds like they should be children of the previous generation. Maybe siblings?
posted by Deborah Macgillivray
Trice-256 Fletcher Trice
The hero of Stirling Bridge had one child as per: https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun02paul/page/n5/mode/2up?view=theater

The entire de Moray lineage back to Freskin is a lot different here compared to the Balfour version.

posted by Fletcher Trice
Macgillivray-294 Deborah Macgillivray
I think they are mixing up 3rd and 4th earls of Bothwell. But even allowing for the mixup, this daughter doesn't match either one of them.
posted by Deborah Macgillivray
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Moray-104 and Moray-96 appear to represent the same person because: based solely on wife's maiden name, these appear to be intended to be the same person.
posted by Robin Lee
Fields-574 Bob Fields
Moray-101 and Moray-96 appear to represent the same person because: Same death date (contradictory evidence of date according to wikipedia). Same person who was a leader at the Battle of Stirling Bridge.
posted by Bob Fields

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