Joan (Neville) de Neville (bef. 1224 - aft. 1275)

fwiw, according to this source, Hugh was the son of Geoffrey, brother of Sir John, both being sons of the Geoffrey who died 1221.

"The same year, 1201, King John granted it to his Chancellor, Geoffrey de Nevill, in exchange for the latter's Manor of Bere in Dorset. It is probable that the interest of Geoffrey in Laceby came from the inclusion of its Soke in properties of a branch of the de Nevill family some years previously, though this point still needs to be clarified. Geoffrey de Nevill was a son of Alan, who was perhaps the second of seven sons of Gilbert de Nevill, he died in 1221 and was succeeded by his son John, to whom the King confirmed all the gifts made to his father. When John died in 1253 the Manor passed to his son Geoffrey and then on to Hugh, son of John's Brother, Geoffrey in 1266-1. Hugh de Nevill's daughter, Joan, married John de la Linde (also spelt Launde, Lynde) , and in 1268 Hugh sold the manor to Sir John who became responsible for debts on the estates. Between John de la Lynde, querent, and Hugh de Nevill, impedient, of the Manor of Lesseby. Plea of warranty charter. Hugh has acknowledged the Manor with the appurtenances, as in demesnes, homages, services of free men, villeinages, the advowson of the church of the manor, woods, meadows, pastures, waters, ponds, mills, gardens, fisheries, liberties and all other things to the manor belonging, to be the right of John, as that which John has of his gift: to hold to John and his heirs of Hugh and his heirs forever; rendering therefor yearly 1d at Easter for all service. (Warranty) And John he released and forgiven to Hugh and his heirs 8101. .6s sterling in which Hugh was bound to the king in respect of the numerous debts of his ancestors, which debts John had of the gift and grant of the king. And, moreover, John has released and forgiven to Hugh and his heirs a certain debt of 281. for which Hugh was bound every year to Manasser de Bradewrth, the Jew, by a certain charter of fee thereof made in the name of Hugh, and likewise all the arrears of the same debt, which arrears and debt John had likewise of the gift and grant of the king, for ever. In 1273 the Manor was recorded as being worth £32.12.0 1/4d. John's son, Sir Walter de la Linde, born in 1249, inherited the estate in 1280.”

http://lacebyhistory.com/node/53

I'm thinking, was this the Geoffrey who married Mabel de la Mare?

Despite some effort, I cannot prove which Hugh was her father. My feeling is she is attached to the wrong one. Note that this reference does not give Hugh the Forester a daughter Joan.

I was working on the biography for Hugh de Neville, and in compiling Research Notes, I noticed that one source said not to confuse Hugh (the forester/one of Magna Carta's illustrious men) with Hugh, son of Henry de Neville of Lincolnshire.

Some other notes include an incompatible birth year of 1182, with birth in Lincolnshire. Same source (which is unsourced) has a daughter Joan m Cobham who is not listed as Hugh Neville-1444's daughter in Richardson.

So... I'm wondering if Hugh of Lincolnshire is father of (this) Joan? The only potential profile I found for that Hugh's father shows birth as 1178 -see Henry Neville-569- so 1182 date is a bit early for a son of that Henry, but a later date would still work with the birth of Joan given here as "before 1224".

What do y'all think?

Apparently, Joan is the alleged second wife of John I Cobham. His second wife is said to have had his last 3 sons: William, James and Reginald, so John "the younger" should be removed.