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Weldelphus (Von Thuringia) Thüringen (abt. 360)

Weldelphus (Wildelphe) "King of Thuringia, fictional person" Thüringen formerly Von Thuringia
Born about [location unknown]
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Son of and [mother unknown]
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[spouse(s) unknown]
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Profile last modified | Created 2 Dec 2010
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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.

"Mention of the likes of Hoger and Erpes, Wedelphus, and Meerwig (Merovech) as Thuringian rulers is sheer fantasy." (Angel, n.d.)[1]

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Disputed Existence

Wedelphus and rulers before him are not historically correct.

Thuringian Rulers

See Basinas of the Thuringii (d. after 464) m. Basina (Lady) UNKNOWN (sometimes referred to as "Menia"; parents/origins UNKNOWN). No proven issue... chronology for brothers Berthar, Baderic and Hermanfrid is off... they have UNKNOWN origins. (See Cawley, 2006).[1]


Notes

For Weldelphus (fictional father of Basina, who's origins are UNKNOWN), see:

French, G.R. (1841). The ancestry of Her Majesty Queen Victoria and of His Royal Highness Prince Albert, (pp. 281). Web. http://tinyurl.com/4k32757

Gregory of Tours, "The History of the Franks"

  • should not be taken as prime authority
  • does mention Thuringians a bit.

"Letters of St. Boniface", missionary,

  • lack of info on Turingii
  • Boniface worked when the Turingii were subjugated by the Franks.

Gebser (2001)

  • appears to repeat the 19th century mistakes of Gustav Kosinna
  • subjects reader to pure fantasy.[2]

Sources

  1. ↑ Errors: Compare Carney and James - both have errors re Basina and other people.
  2. ↑ Gebser, R. (2001). Das Thüringer Königreich. N.p.




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Sharon Richards
Basina and Menia were not the same person; Basina deserted Basinus for Chlothaire and Menia of the Lombards married him and had 3-4 children with him
posted by Sharon Richards
[Living Ogle]
Ok, I finally get it! This is a false pedigree that stems from the fictional Pharamond,[1] that was promoted by Pope Pious (living 1400s)... in order to give Marcomer (living 388 AD), a false heritage.
posted by [Living Ogle]
[Living Ogle]
[1]
posted by [Living Ogle]
Travis-185 Roger Travis Jr.
Neither of the profiles proposed for merge has the correct LNAB. Can we find a version with the correct LNAB first?
posted by Roger Travis Jr.
Malloy-116 Renee Malloy Esq
Of Thuringia-39 and Von Thuringia-12 appear to represent the same person because: Appears to be same with minor name variation. Thank you for your consideration, Renee Malloy
posted by Renee Malloy Esq
Travis-185 Roger Travis Jr.
I find no evidence for even fanciful parentage from Chlodio.
posted by Roger Travis Jr.
Hubbard-51 Krissi (Hubbard) Love
King of Thuringians
posted by Krissi (Hubbard) Love

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