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Chris A. Ogle aka Bennett
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The Brackenbury line is interesting. Reading about some of their family assoc. w/ Richard III and intrigues in The Tower... I'm beginning to wonder if they were left out of the family history intentionally. I think the Ogles they intermarried w/ had to be from the co. Northumb. seat. because of some of the allied families related to the Brackenburys, are also seen among the branches of the Ogles of Northumb.
posted by [Living Ogle]
edited by Bree Ogle
Hi Bree,

The Brackenburys' are a family with HISTORY! but all ancestors are interesting - it's their connection to ourselves and the depth of investigation that becomes obsessive! The big problem with history as written/deciphered by others who were not present at the portrayed time is that their own viewpoint can distort, colour and influence that history. More sources, the better your evidence. When evaluating an episode in history that surrounds your ancestor it is necessary to immerse yourself in that historic time frame and empathise with the social climate and understand your ancestors status. Read EVERYTHING and make your own conclusions, gut instinct is a remarkable tool. The descendants of second marriages were often dismissed by armorial heralds as it brought to light the standard of legitimacy. I understand that it was not too far back in English history that children from a first marriage were disinherited by children from a second marriage? Understandably, a bit of a problem if there was a Royal title or even a Throne involved. Illegitimacy and bastards were not uncommon - the higher the social status the more they were accepted and acknowledged. Look at English Royalty history! There is possibly a connection to other families of similar social standing within the North as during those turbulent 15 /16 Century allies were important to whatever cause they stood for. A son was your soldier, a daughter a bargaining commodity. Rich or poor, they all have stories. Happy hunting!

posted by Chris Ogle
Well said! And given the time period involved... this mystery is simply fascinating! I spent hours just reading up on the lives of the some people from related allied families. There's certainly a pattern here, but I don't quite have the words to formulate a framework ... yet:D I'd love to hear you talk or write at length on this topic!
posted by [Living Ogle]
edited by Bree Ogle
Wonderful email! You're a genealogist after my own heart:)

BTW ... did you group your dad's DNA with the other Ogle yDNA at FTDNA? I think there's a much larger Ogle base at Ancestry.com, but initially the yDNA grouping began on FTDNA. A few months ago, an Ogle cousin submitted a huge test (I think it's the big y with the 111? markers), so that might come in handy down the road. My brother gifted me a 12-marker, and I need to upgrade it too... so I get it:) We have plenty of time!

posted by [Living Ogle]
Hi Bree,

I only have a y dna result for my father which won't be much help as I could only afford a 12 point test, there are millions of matches to that! At least I have had it done, just need the funds for upgrading the dna stored.

posted by Chris Ogle
Thx Chris!:) I'm kind of surprised that H.A. Ogle didn't cover the line at Notts. a bit more. The pickings are real slim, so I think the general public will be led to the Notts. registers first. Which brings me to ... It would be a real blessing if you shared and compared your DNA!:) I sincerely hope you'll consider it.
posted by [Living Ogle]
Hi Chris,

Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz!

Because pre-1700 ancestors are shared by many descendants, working within the projects which coordinate them is essential.

Use the Pre-1700 Projects list to find one which best fits your research focus, whether time period, location, or topic. Read the goals and tasks of the project and join if it is a good fit.

Add the project tag to your Following list to be kept up to date on any activity that occurs for that project.

Can't find what you're looking for? Let me know, and I can make some suggestions! :-)

David ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

posted by David Selman
Hi Chris! Nice to hear from you:) I've been reading Sir Henry Asgil Ogle's work. Although the Nottinghamshire family pedigree is not discussed by him, he does talk about Edward Ogle of Welbeck Abbey being named in the will of James Ogle of Causey Park, and how Alice (Palmer) Ogle must have had relations in Notts. Of course, there's also links to Notts. for the Cavendish family ... but H.A. Ogle also mentions Timothy Ogle (which I was looking at last nite and it seems the given name is seen a few times only in Notts. I've tied at least one Tim as a son of an Isaac Ogle via documention). Still reading and working on the Notts pedigree ... hopefully more later:)
posted by [Living Ogle]
Chris, thank-you for starting the line for the Ogles of Derbyshire. I've been researching the Nottingham lines for a few days and it's very interesting. I did add some bits and hopefully will add some more. So far I'm able to tie Nottingham to the Cavendish line and there are links with Causey Park. The Civil War seems to ruin the records though... and unfortunately, the trail kind of breaks, but I'm still reading!
posted by [Living Ogle]
Hi, I am Dorothy, a WikiTree mentor!! Are you enjoying your time on WikiTree so far?

Now that you have had a little time to try our site, there are a few more features you may find useful:

For instance, ideas on what to include in a profile can be found in Styles and Standards; including some tips on writing biographies

Also a friendly reminder about adding sources and references to your profile. Sources are critically important for genealogy and you will be helping future genealogists by listing where the information you've added came from. This page describes different kinds of sources: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sources

If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

posted by Dorothy Barry
Hi Chris,

You are now a confirmed member of WikiTree. Thank you for volunteering, and best wishes on solving your Dyke and Ogle mysteries!

Have fun and ask for help if you need it! WikiTree members are always eager to offer guidance to a fellow genealogist.

If you need additional help, our Mentors Project is a friendly bunch of volunteers who will be glad to assist you with WikiTree-specific problems.

See you in the branches --

Margaret

Hello Chris and welcome to WikiTree! The initial email from us has helpful links that will get you started on WikiTree, which is not like any genealogy site you’ve ever used.

WikiTree is different because our goal is to have one profile per person, and that means we all work together as a BIG collaborative team!

What brings you to WikiTree? Do you have research you’d like to share? Are you interested in how your family fits into the big tree? When you confirm your email address, you’ll have an opportunity to volunteer and tell us about your genealogical interests.

Once you volunteer, one of our Greeters will be happy to confirm your membership, and you’ll be on your way!

Welcome to the family! We’re really glad you’re here.

Lee  :) UK


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