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John (Ogle) Ogell (1621 - 1686)

John "of Eglingham Hall" [uncertain] Ogell formerly Ogle
Born in Morpeth, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Brother of and
Husband of — married after 1630 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 64 in Eglingham, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Biography

John Ogle of Eglingham Hall[1][2][3] (bp. 25 Nov 1621 Morpeth, co. Northumb.[4] - d. bef. 11 Jun 1686), [5] is the son of:[2]

  • Henry Ogle of Eglingham
  • and Jane Forster

Marriage

He married Eleanor Pringle. Her father was Robert Pringle of Stichell in Scotland.

She might be the "Mrs. Eleanor Ogle," who was buried at Eglingham on 01 May 1736.[5][6][2][7]

children

They are the parents of:[5]

  • Henry (b. abt.Feb 1690/1 - bur. 04 May 1711)[8]
m. (1664) Appolina Howard.[9]
  • Robert (living 20 Jun 1668 and 22 Jan 1712/13)[8][10]
m. (02 Aug 1686) Dorothy, dau. of John Grey, esq. of Acton & Howick (b. c. 1641) & Dorothy, dau. of Edward Lisle of Acton & Felton (living 1663).[11]
  • Mrs. Margaret Manners
  • Anne

disputed children

Hibbard (1967), believed that John was the father of John Ogle of Delaware (b. c. 1649).[12] [citation needed] [13] He asserted this after locating a baptism record for a John Ogle, dated 30 September 1649 at Berwick, co. Northumb. But the locale is a bit problematic ... since those estates descend from Henry's brother, Nicholas.

To further complicate the matter, Henry Ogle of Eglingham entailed his estates on two grandchildren in 1668. This did not include John of Delaware, who was already in the New World by this time.[13]

As such, the father of the American ancestor has never been proven. And while Hibbard's (1967) case is intriguing, there are other theories.

Occupation

  • 1650: commissioned captain of milita for the 4 northern counties[1][7]
  • 1651: commanded troop horse for the Commonwealth in Scotland[7]
  • 1652: commissioner for compounding[7]
  • 1653: treasurer[7]
  • 1654: High Sheriff[3]

Timeline

  • transcribed from Ogle, 1902, p. 198 - 199

"John Ogle of Eglingham was probably born about the year 1621, for in March 1646, George Denton of Cardrew sold to him one third part of Huntlaw, Greenshields, Blakehope, Great and Little Hardish within the lordship of Ingram, and the advowson of the church there, for which a fine was levied the next year, and on the 20th of August, 1649, John Ramsay of Old Bewick conveyed to him five farmholds in Eglingham, to which transfer apparently his father assisted."[14]

  • 1650: commissioned as captain of militia for the four northern counties[14]
  • 1651: commonwealth commissioner; commanded troop of horse in Scotland [14]
  • 1652: commissioner for compounding sequestered estates[14]
  • 1653: Treasurer[14]
  • 1654: High sheriff of Northumb.[15][14]
  • 1655: as Cpt. John Ogle of Eglingham -- churchwarden of his own church and about this time was associated with his father as a public man[14]
  • 1659: £250 given to a Cpt. Ogle of a militia troop in Scotland.[14]
  • 1663: There's reason to suppose that before the Restoration, his father made over to him a big portion of his estate ... because in 1663 (during his father's lifetime), John possessed Eglingham. "West Lilburne, Ingram, and Downham, which latter place has in a list of rentals the name Henry Ogle shown opposite to it as if it was held in his son's name."[14]
  • 20 Jun 1668: in entail of property held by his father. John had the remainder after his own two sons.[14]
  • 26 Jun 1673: John and his son Henry conveyed Downham to William, Lord Grey.[14]
  • 03 Feb 1681: John was alive when Thomas Ogle of Acton prayed that John and Henry Ogle might be summoned, for in 1650 he lent John Ogle of Eglingham £200, who upon the marriage of his son Henry with Appolina had conveyed all his estate to Henry and his heirs, and Henry refused to pay the money, the king's writ was accordingly directed to John Salkeld and Robert Ogle.[14]
  • bef. 11 Jun 1686: John died before 11 Jun 1686. But in a dispute between the Carrs and the Ogles 1718 - 21, he's mentioned as dying about 26 years ago, which should probably say 36 years ago.[14]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Hibbard, 1967, p.16
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Ogle, 1902
  3. 3.0 3.1 Wikipedia: High Sheriff of Northumberland. See 17th Century: 1654 John Ogle of Eglingham Hall.
  4. England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Ogle, 1902, p.199
  6. Hibbard, 1967
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 Surtees Society, 1905
  8. 8.0 8.1 Ogle, 1902, p. 198 - 201
  9. Issue: (Ogle, 1902, p. 201)
    • James (b. abt. 1691)
  10. Ogle, 1902, p. 201
  11. Ogle, 1902, p. 202
  12. "Who Was John Ogle's Father." Ogle Kin. Ogle Information Systems, 16 Sept. 2013. Web. 11 Jan. 2014.
  13. 13.0 13.1 Citation missing/needed here.
  14. 14.00 14.01 14.02 14.03 14.04 14.05 14.06 14.07 14.08 14.09 14.10 14.11 14.12 Ogle, 1902, p. 198 - 199
  15. Wikipedia: High Sheriff of Northumberland #17th century
  • Hibbard, F.H. (1967). The English Origin of John Ogle, First of the Name in Delaware. FamilySearch.org. eBook.
  • Ogle, H.A. (1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple.
  • Surtees Society, (1905). "Records of the Committees for Compounding, Etc. with Delinquent Royalists in Durham and Northumberland During the Civil War, Etc. 1643 - 1660." Surtees, 111, pp. 80. Google Books.

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Ogle-2215 and Ogle-63 do not represent the same person because: no similar common dates
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Need reference for H in the disputed children section.

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