Johannes Cornelis (Ocker) Olivier
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Johannes Cornelis (Ocker) Olivier (bef. 1706 - 1764)

Johannes Cornelis "Jan" Olivier formerly Ocker
Born before in Drakenstein District, de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 12 Feb 1730 in Tulbaghmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 58 in 't Land van Waveren (Tulbagh from 1804), de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
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Table Bay, South Africa (1762)
Johannes Cornelis (Ocker) Olivier was part of the settlement of the Dutch Cape Colony.
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Biography

SAG nr

b1c2

Birth

Date: Johannes Cornelius Oliver was born before [1] / about 1706. [2]
Place: Cape Town [2]

Baptism

1706; 13de Jùlij; Johannes. d'Vader Cornelis Ocker, de Moeder Anna Catharina van der Wey[3]
Child: Johannes
Event : Baptism
Event date: 13 June 1706[4][2]
Event place: Drakenstein, Dutch Reformed Church
Father: Cornelis Ocker / Cornelis Olivier
Mother: Anna Catharina van der Wey / Anna Catrijn Ryckman [5]

Marriage

Event date: 12 Febr 1730
Event place: Drakenstein, Dutch Reformed Church
Groom: Jan Cornelesz Olivier
Bride: Cicilia du Pres

Marriage

Event date: 12 Febr 1730
Event place: Drakenstein, Dutch Reformed Church
Groom: Jan Cornelesz Olivier
Bride: Cicilia du Pres
Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk, Drakenstein : 12 Februarie 1730

Jan Corneles Z Olivier van Carbo de Goede Hoop met Cecilia du Pres van Cabo Voornoemt Jonge Dochter

[6]

Vryburger Kontrak

Datum: 1737-1741
Naam: Johannes Olivier
Albei kontrakte is deur ander geteken
Nota: Johannes Olivier kon warskynlik nie lees of skryf nie. [7]

Events

Homestead.
"I was related to your aunt Selena who died," said Tant Sannie. "My mother's step-brother's child was married to her father's brother's step-nephew's niece." "Yes, aunt," said the young man, "I know we were related ..." - Olive Schreiner (1855-1920) {Olive Schreiner (Schreiner-262)} from "Tant Sannie Holds An Upsitting, and Gregory Writes A Letter" ["The Story of an African Farm"] [8]
5 July 1706: Marriage of Zacharia Jans {Visser}, widow of Diederik Pötter {Putter} (from Zierenberg) to 2nd husband Andreas Krügel (from Tennenlohe). [8] Prior to her 2nd marriage she shacks up with the unmarried Cape-born Johannes Basson (legitimate son of Arnoldus Willemsz Basson (from Wesel) aka Jaght by his wife the famous freed slave woman Maaij Ansela van Bengale whose voorzoon is the slave-born, executed, halfslag free-burgher Jantje van As) & mothering an illegitimate, politically troublesome, [grand?]son (Arnoldus Johannes Basson). [8]
Also noteworthy, is the collective role - a veritable family affair - played by her many legitimate (Putter / Krügel) & illegitimate (Basson) offspring & relatives by marriage in supporting Estienne Barbier [9] - executed rebel or ‘social bandit’. [8] Historians overlook this very important aspect of his rebellion. These related 'rebels' are listed by name [8]:
Hendrik Krügel; Lodewyk Putter; Frans Campher; Arnoldus Johannes Basson; Hendrik Ras; Jan Olivier; Sybrand van Dyk {?} & Johannes Ras.
Significantly, some again undertake (1738) an illegal expedition (punitive raid?) to the !Ariep [Gariep or Orange River] – with Willem van Wyk [‘Willem Namaqua’] - notorious cultural broker who ‘goes native’ undertaking the Nama ‘t Kammi (urination or ‘golden shower’ initiation ceremony aka "pisplechtigheid") [8]:
Lodewyk Putter, Hendrik Ras, Matthys Willemsz {?}, Jacob Swart {?}, Frans Campher, Andries van der Walt, Sybrand van Dyk {?}, Augustus LOURENS & Jan GOUS - Servants of Hendrik Krügel.
Historians, sensing that the people supporting Barbier are a “closely related group”, however, eschew exploring more fully the actual family ties:
Lodewyk Putter, Arnoldus Johannes Basson & Hendrik Krügel are all half-brothers - being sons of Johannes Coenraedsz Visser (from Ommen) aka Grof’s legitimate daughter Zacharia Jans Visser. Their mother, 1st marries hunter Diederik Putter, but subsequently when widowed, has an illegitimate son by mesties burgher Johannes Basson & then marries colonist Andreas Krügel. Hendrik Ras & Johannes Ras, in turn, are step-uncles to the 3 afore-mentioned half-brothers, being brothers to their stepmother Maria Ras, 2nd wife to Andreas Krügel after the death of his 1st wife Zacharia Jans Putter, née Visser. Jan Olivier is brother-in-law to Arnoldus Johannes Basson whose wife is his sister. Sybrand van DYK is 1st cousin to Jan Olivier & to Arnoldus Johannes Basson's wife Catharina Olivier. [Mansell Upham] [8][10][11]

Death

Sterfte Kennis Johannes Olivier : 21 Augustus 1764

1764: 21 Augst: is overl: Johannes Cornelis Olivier

[12]
Name: Johannes Cornelis Olivier [13]
Date: Johannes Cornelius Oliver passed away [in] 1754 [14] / [in] [15] / [on] 21 Aug 1764[4] [2]
Place: Tulbagh[2]
Will: MOOC 7/1/15 54[4]

Sources

  1. Entered by Pieter Meyer, Apr 30, 2013.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Added by Andrew Dippenaar, Oct 23, 2012
  3. Source: Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ Page: Johannes Cornelisz Olivier Seen and added by Philip van der Walt Feb 17, 2015,
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Added by Arrie Klopper, Jul 19, 2012
  5. (Private collection : image recorded 2003-05-28 EXIF 0221 )"South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers, 1694-1732," images,, Johannes Olivier,1706-06-13 , , Baptism; citing p. ,Drakenstein Congregation, Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa, State Archives, Cape Province; image from photocopies of the originals housed in the Cape Archives at the time, now housed in NG Kerk Argief,Noordwal-wes,Stellenbosch as G3 3/1. VC 644,VC654, baptisms, page 29 ,1706-06-13, Johannes Olivier ,Cornelis Ocker, Anna Catharina van der Wey, Feb 17,2015 by Ronel Olivier
  6. (Private collection : image recorded 2003-05-28 EXIF 0221)"South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers, 1694-1732," images,, Jan Corneles Z Olivier, Cecelia du Pres,1730-02-12, Marriage ; citing p. , Drakenstein Congregation, Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa, State Archives, Cape Province; image from photocopies of the originals housed in the Cape Archives at the time, now housed in NG Kerkargief, Noordwal-wes, Stellenbosch as G3 3/1. VC 644,VC654, Marriage, page 20 ,1730-02-12 Febr 17,2015 by Ronel Olivier
  7. "National Archives of South Africa, Roelandstreet, Cape Town" Depot KAB. Source CJ Volume No: 2887 Reference 11 Description Olivier Jan Cornelisz, Vryburger Kontrak. Starting 1737 Ending 1740 Remarks: Alnoldus Johannes Basson onderteken kontrak namens Olivier. Also: Depot KAB Source CJ Volume No: 2888 Reference 11 Description Olivier, Johannes, Vryburger Kontrak Starrting 1741 Ending 1841 Remarks Gerrit van den Oever Onderteken kontrak namens Olivier
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.6 [Mansell Upham] Source:
  9. Mentioned in Chapter 3 Estienne Barbier - An eighteenth-century Cape social bandit (pp. 101-129) in …
    • Penn, Nigel, Rogues, Rebels and Runaways. Eighteenth-Century Cape Characters. Kaapstad 1999.
    Seen and added by Philip van der Walt 20 Apr, 2019.
  10. Source:
  11. Also see:
  12. Repository: NG Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, G4 11/1. Page 4 Sterf Johannes Olivier Catalog Record, Item Number, Film/Digital Note Parish registers for the Dutch Reformed Church at Swartland, Cape Province Items 7 - 8 Baptisms 1745-1813 Parish registers for the Dutch Reformed Church at Tulbagh, Cape Province Items 1 - 6 Marriages 1922-1972. -- Memberships 1838-1893. -- Deaths 1744-1937 Added by Ronel Olivier March, 2020.
  13. ”The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions. (http://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchBurials.pl) Source: Nederduits Gereformeerde Gemeente (NGK), Tulbagh, Western Cape. death register, 1744-1793, page 10. Repository: NG Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, G4 11/1. Transcribed by Marcia Bezuidenhout, from photographs of Cape Archives VC 665. Note: Many of the entries have no date of death provided - an approximate date of death is used purely for filing purposes - the actual date as entered is provided in the main entry. Seen and entered by Ronel Olivier March 11, 2017.
  14. Jun 27, 2013 by Amanda Calitz.
  15. Entered by Pieter Meyer, Apr 30, 2013.
  • Olivier Family Tree. Ref No. BK 716 : Authors Ronel Olivier and Josey Olivier. Bygevoeg deur Ronel Olivier Maart, 2020.

Acknowledgement

  • WikiTree profile Olivier-112 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Arrie Klopper.
  • WikiTree profile Olivier-158 created through the import of Ancestors_DippenaarAndre_noinfo.GED on Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar.
  • WikiTree profile Olivier-420 created through the import of 8vd2yc_0008474r52hf8nedwec1c2.ged on Jun 30, 2013 by Amanda Calitz.
  • Source: Title: WikiTree Publication: MyHeritage Data: Text: Johannes 'Jan' Corneliszoon Olivier, b2c2Gender: Male Marriage: Feb 12 1730 - Tulbagh Death: Aug 21 1764 Father: Cornelis Ockersz Olivier, b2 Mother: * Anna Catharina Richman Van Weij Wife: Cecilia Du Prez, b6c7 Child: Philippus Arnoldus Olivier, b2c2d1
  • WikiTree profile Olivier-396 through the import of Olivier Family Tree.ged on Jun 27, 2013 by Amanda Calitz.




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Oeps foutije Ronel ... ek sal die LNAB laat wysig na "Ocker" ...
posted by Philip van der Walt
Ek sou voorstel ons hou by die reels. aldus Ocker soos op die doopinskrywing. Ek sien die profiel is klaar PPP dus is ek seker nou mostert na die maal :-)
Voordat ons hierdie profiel laat beskerm onder die projek as manager, hoe wil jy die LNAB hê Ronel - as Ocker current Olivier?
posted by Philip van der Walt
Hi, could one of the active managers also add the project profile [email address removed] to the trusted list of this profile [Privacy Tab] and then also activate it as active manager to this profile, please? And drop me a note, thanks, Philip
posted by Philip van der Walt
Olivier-112 and Olivier-396 appear to represent the same person because: Same spouse etc. Olivier-112 has the correct LNAB Please make Olivier-112 the target profile
Olivier-396 and Olivier-112 appear to represent the same person because: Same spouse etc. Olivier-112 has the correct LNAB Please make Olivier-112 the target profile
Olivier-112 and Olivier-824 appear to represent the same person because: Same spouse etc. Olivier-112 has the correct LNAB Please make Olivier-112 the target profile
Olivier-824 and Olivier-112 appear to represent the same person because: Same spouse etc. Olivier-112 has the correct LNAB Please make Olivier-112 the target profile
Olivier 112 en Olivier 396 is dieslefde persoon

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