Thomas (Paine) Payne (1586 - bef. 1640)

Born 11 Dec 1586 in Wrentham, Suffolk, England

Ancestors

Husband of Elizabeth (Bloomfield) Paine — married 22 Nov 1610 in Wrentham, Suffolk, England

Descendants

Died before 21 Jan 1640 before age 53 in Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony

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Thomas (Paine) Payne migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 250) Join: Puritan Great Migration Project Discuss: pgm

Biography

Thomas Paine/Payne was born 11 Dec 1586, probably at Wrentham, Suffolk, England. He was the son of Thomas Paine and Katherine Harssant. Thomas married Elizabeth 22 Nov 1610.^[1]

Children of Thomas Paine and Elizabeth

Thomas and Elizabeth had eight children.^[1][2]

1. Mary Payne, b. 12 Oct 1611. m. Philemon Dickinson, tanner of Salem. 1639. Settled at Southold, L. I.
2. Thomas Paine, b. 18 Jan 1612/13. m. Rebecca. Dedham about 1640, linen weaver. d. 6 Sep 1686.
3. Elizabeth Payne, b. 20 Jan 1614/15, d. prob. 1637/38.
4. Peter Payne, b. 14 Mar 1616. Settled at Southold, L. I.
5. Dorothy Payne, b. 6 Dec 1618, d. prob. 1637/38
6. John Payne, b. 26 Aug 1620. Settled at Southold, L. I.
7. Sara Payne, b. 7 Mar 1621/22, d. prob. 1637/38
8. Nathaniel Payne, b. 21 Jul 1626, d. 6 Apr 1636, age nine

Thomas Paine, a weaver from Wrentham, Suffolk, England, boarded the ship Mary Anne at Yarmouth, England in 1637 with his wife, Elizabeth and six children: Thomas, John, Marey, Elizabeth, Dorothey and Sarah.^[3] Thomas bought a vessel rather than sail in another's ship.^[1]

From The Planters of the Commonwealth by Charles Edward Banks, 1930: The "Mary Anne" of Yarmouth, William Goose, master, sailing from Ipswich, Eng. in May and arriving at Boston June 20, 1637.

Thomas Paine 50 weaver of Wrentham, co. Suffolk to Salem

Mrs. Elizabeth Paine 53

Thomas Paine Jr.

John Paine

Mary Paine

Elizabeth Paine

Dorothy Paine

Sarah Paine

The family settled in Salem, Plymouth Colony where Thomas died in 1639. He wrote his will 10 Apr 1638. At a meeting in Salem 21 Jan 1639/40, there was "granted to the widow Payne and three others 20 acres of land apiece...provided they continue in the Plantation to use the same."^[4] He mentions in his will his wife Elizabeth, three sons, Thomas, John and Peter, and his daughter Mary. He also mentioned kinfolk Henry Blomfeild. Thomas' wife Elizabeth died in Southold, New York shortly before 15 Sep 1658.^{[1] [5]}

Their home in Salem appears to have been located between the commons and New River near present Washington Square at Boardman Street.^[1]

Around 1652, widow Elizabeth joined her daughter Mary Dickerson in Southold, Long Island, NY, as did sons Peter and John. [Southold, on the north shore at the eastern end of Long Island, was the first English settlement in New York, founded in 1640 by families from New Haven CT.] She died in Southold shortly prior to September 15, 1658, when an inventory was taken of her personal estate.^[1]

Research notes

This comment about the Paine Ancestry, The Family of Robert Treat Paine, Signer of the Declaration of Independence by Sarah Cushing Paine and Charles Henry Pope:

"This book is inaccurate as to the Thomas Paine (formally Thomas Payne) that married Mary Snow. Thomas Payne, son of Thomas Payne and Marie Carter first married Elizabeth Litchfield (1633) in London, England. This Thomas with wife Elizabeth and son Thomas (b. 1635 "at Sagus") came to America in 1639. Elizabeth died 1645 after giving birth to second son Samuel. When he married Mary Snow in 1650, his name was spelled Paine. (In those days, the spelling of one's name depended on how the name sounded to the person doing the recording.)

Reference: Cape Cod Genealogical Society's Summer & Fall 1999 Bulletin Addendum, Vol XXV Numbers 2 & 3, Issue # 86.

Forrest R. Paine, 8th Great Grandson of Thomas Paine and Mary Snow.[1]

Note: Settled in Yarmouth in 1639. (Not the same Thomas).

Apparently another immigrant: [Virkus 7]

Thomas Paine (1586-1650) from England, with his son Thomas, to Plymouth, Mass., 1621; settled at Yarmouth; freeman 1639; 1st dep. to Gen. Ct. Married Margaret, dau. of Sir Thomas Pultney.

However, this second Thomas is questionable. First of all, the only known ship to arrive in 1621 was the Fortune with its 35 passengers (number from writings of Bradford and Winslow), and the passenger list did not include either Thomas Paine.

Credible traditionary accounts that were committed to writing early in several branches of the family state that his son Thomas immigrated at about age 10 with his father Thomas.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5} Paine, Nathaniel Emmons. Thomas Payne of Salem and His Descendants (Record Publishing Co., Haverhill, Mass., 1928) pp. 9, 13-21 : "Thomas Payne The New England Emigrant"
2. ↑ The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2018.) "Payne Family Record, & C. Vol. 5 (1891) pp 331, 332.subscriber$
3. ↑ 10-15 May 1637. Examinations of passengers to New England on the Mary Anne of Yarmouth, Mr. William Goose : Work, research and compilation was done by Anne Stevens of packrat-pro. Accessed 27 May 2018.
4. ↑ Essex Institute historical collections. v.9-10 (1869), Reference Volume 9, pages 96-7 via HathiTrust
5. ↑ Page 37 Essex, MA Wills https://archive.org/stream/probaterecordsof01dowg#page/37/mode/1up

• Library of Cape Cod History & Genealogy #70 Paine or Payne of Truro, by Shebnah Rich and #32 Early Settlers of Eastham by Joshua Paine of Harwich": "Thomas-1 Paine b. 11 Dec 1588 England; d.1640 [Virkus 7:1586-1650] (Son of Thomas Payne (ca. 1540-1631) & Katherine (Harssant) Payne), of Cooklie, co. Suffolk, England.) [Virkus 7]:m. 22 Nov 1610 Elizabeth ?.
• Cape Cod Genealogical Society's Summer & Fall 1999 Bulletin Addendum, Vol XXV Numbers 2 & 3, Issue # 86. Forrest R. Paine, 8th Great Grandson of Thomas Paine and Mary Snow available on microfilm at your local Family History Center - 974.492 D25cc. Also can be purchased from The Cape Cod Genealogical Society as part of a PDF on the"Bulletin CD".
• Paine, Nathaniel Emmons. Thomas Payne of Salem and His Descendants (Record Publishing Co., Haverhill, Mass., 1928) Page 13-: "Thomas Payne The New England Emigrant"
• Records and Files of the Quarterly Courts of Essex County, Massachusetts, 1636-1686 (The Essex Institute, 1911) Vol. 1, Page 67-8: "Will of Thomas Payne of Salem" (Is this the same Thomas Paine?) He mentions his wife, children, three sons, one son named Thomas.
• Southold Connections by Judy Jacobson