There is no documentation supporting a marriage between a Richard Devereaux Gilliam and a Dorothy Pembroke. In fact, there is no documentation that Sir Henry Herbert, 2nd Earl of Pembroke and Lady Mary Sidney Herbert, Countess of Pembroke, had a daughter Dorothy.
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Sir Richard Devereux married Lady Dorothea Hastings daughter of George Hastings, 1st Earl of Huntingdon and Lady Anne Stafford The Peerage Person page 32396
On further searching I found where the Gilliam might have come from "Children of Sir William ap Thomas.
John --Gwilim-- Herbert+4 b. 1419
Elizabeth Herbert+5 b. c 1427
Person page 19580 The Peerage.
This is one of the most confusing profile i've worked on. I do know it doesn't lead to Pembroke but Pembroke was a place they left from. I believe they do indeed lead to Gilliam family not Hastings or Huntington. Just hard to get solid proof
Hi Donna, don't know if this will help, but here it is anyway.
https://thepeerage.com/p19580.htm#i195793
Sir William ap Thomas1
M, #195793, d. 1446
Last Edited=11 Jan 2016
Sir William ap Thomas was the son of Sir Thomas ap Gwilym and Maud Morley.2 He married, firstly, Elizabeth Bluet, daughter of Sir John Bluet.3 He married, firstly, Margaret ap Griffith, daughter of Thomas ap Griffith.2 He married, secondly, Gwladus (?), daughter of Sir Dafydd 'Gam' (?).1 He died in 1446.1
Sir William ap Thomas also went by the nick-name of 'Y Marchog Glas o Went' (or in English, The Blue Knight of Gwent.)3 He was appointed Knight in 1415.3 He lived at Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales.3
Child of Sir William ap Thomas and Margaret ap Griffith
Margaret Herbert 2
Children of Sir William ap Thomas
John Gwilim Herbert+4 b. 1419
Elizabeth Herbert+5 b. c 1427
Children of Sir William ap Thomas and Gwladus (?)
Sir Richard Herbert+6 d. Jul 1469
William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke+1 b. c 1423, d. 27 Jul 1469
Citations
[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume X, page 400. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
[S22] Sir Bernard Burke, C.B. LL.D., A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, new edition (1883; reprint, Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1978), page 271. Hereinafter cited as Burkes Extinct Peerage.
[S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 3207. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S3268] Hans Harmsen, "re: Chester Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 21 August 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Chester Family."
[S1381] Cheryl Nicol, "re: Long Family," e-mail message to Darryl Lundy, 5 July 2005 to 14 May 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Long Family."
[S37] BP2003. [S37]
The Herbert bloodlines if either Pembrokeshire and or Carnarvon are very difficult to trace, but keep in mind all that have this last name are ultimately descendents of William ap Thomas, ( in the male bloodline) ; in some way. Herbert is a derivation of the words ,, Hir-Bert,,,,,, meaning very tall.👍
So it appears her name isn't known neither did she marry Richard Devereaux (Gilliam?)
Children of Henry Herbert, 2nd Earl of Pembroke and Mary Sydney
unknown daughter Herbert4
William Herbert, 3rd Earl of Pembroke+3 b. 8 Apr 1580, d. 10 Apr 1630
Philip Herbert, 4th Earl of Pembroke+3 b. 16 Oct 1584, d. 23 Jan 1649/50
Citations
[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 158. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
[S3409] Caroline Maubois, "re: Penancoet Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 2 December 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Penancoet Family."
[S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3093. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S37] BP2003. [S37]
Herbert-207 and Herbert-2702 appear to represent the same person because: These two profiles have the same parents. The person is likely not to have been a child of the said parents so before disconnecting I think it is important to merge these profiles. Neither have documented sources.
Henry Herbert, 2nd Earl of Pembroke did not have any children by his first two marriages and his second wife didn't die until 1575 which meant he married Mary Sidney after that. This Dorothy Pembroke or Herbert does not belong here
On further searching I found where the Gilliam might have come from "Children of Sir William ap Thomas. John --Gwilim-- Herbert+4 b. 1419 Elizabeth Herbert+5 b. c 1427 Person page 19580 The Peerage.
edited by Mary (Samuels) Blundell
https://thepeerage.com/p19580.htm#i195793 Sir William ap Thomas1 M, #195793, d. 1446 Last Edited=11 Jan 2016 Sir William ap Thomas was the son of Sir Thomas ap Gwilym and Maud Morley.2 He married, firstly, Elizabeth Bluet, daughter of Sir John Bluet.3 He married, firstly, Margaret ap Griffith, daughter of Thomas ap Griffith.2 He married, secondly, Gwladus (?), daughter of Sir Dafydd 'Gam' (?).1 He died in 1446.1 Sir William ap Thomas also went by the nick-name of 'Y Marchog Glas o Went' (or in English, The Blue Knight of Gwent.)3 He was appointed Knight in 1415.3 He lived at Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales.3 Child of Sir William ap Thomas and Margaret ap Griffith Margaret Herbert 2 Children of Sir William ap Thomas John Gwilim Herbert+4 b. 1419 Elizabeth Herbert+5 b. c 1427 Children of Sir William ap Thomas and Gwladus (?) Sir Richard Herbert+6 d. Jul 1469 William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke+1 b. c 1423, d. 27 Jul 1469 Citations [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume X, page 400. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. [S22] Sir Bernard Burke, C.B. LL.D., A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, new edition (1883; reprint, Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1978), page 271. Hereinafter cited as Burkes Extinct Peerage. [S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 3207. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37] [S3268] Hans Harmsen, "re: Chester Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 21 August 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Chester Family." [S1381] Cheryl Nicol, "re: Long Family," e-mail message to Darryl Lundy, 5 July 2005 to 14 May 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Long Family." [S37] BP2003. [S37]
edited by Timothy Herbert
So it appears her name isn't known neither did she marry Richard Devereaux (Gilliam?)
Children of Henry Herbert, 2nd Earl of Pembroke and Mary Sydney
unknown daughter Herbert4 William Herbert, 3rd Earl of Pembroke+3 b. 8 Apr 1580, d. 10 Apr 1630 Philip Herbert, 4th Earl of Pembroke+3 b. 16 Oct 1584, d. 23 Jan 1649/50
Citations [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 158. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families. [S3409] Caroline Maubois, "re: Penancoet Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 2 December 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Penancoet Family." [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3093. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37] [S37] BP2003. [S37]
edited by Mary (Samuels) Blundell