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Thomas Perrin (1610 - 1689)

Thomas Perrin
Born in Hampshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 3 Jun 1631 in Derby, Derbyshire, Englandmap
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Died at about age 78 in Virginiamap
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Biography

Sources

  • Virginia, U.S., Extracted Vital Records, 1660-1923
  • Re: THOMAS PERRIN- ELIZABETH CHALFONT, Aug 3, 2009, Genealogy.com.
  • Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile Perrin-770 created through the import of Griffin-Stade Family Tree_2012-11-26.ged on Nov 27, 2012 by Dan Thompson. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Dan and others.




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Strangely enough, there actually is the record of the christening of a Thomas "Perrins," son of Thomas, on 26 June 1610 at Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire. The surname is not especially clear as the parish clerk seems to have had little ink in his pen for "Pe" and too much for "rrins." Nevertheless, I am convinced that the transcription is correct. See https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS38-ZC94?cc=2840172&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPWB-GLH2. So this may one of those nuggets of truth within the pile of lies erected by Gustave Anjou in pursuit of an easy $250 (roughly $10,000 in today's money). That is not to say that the Thomas Perrin Jr. born in 1610 at Ashby was the emigrant to Virginia, OR the progenitor of the Perrins of Rehoboth, Mass. or Hebron, Conn. (I don't imagine that he could be all three of those things), but at least we know that there was a genuine Thomas Perrin Jr. born then and there.
posted by Barry Wood
Perhaps it’s not strange at all. The Wikipedia article on Gustav Anjou describes his deception in terms opposite of your comment. There were mountains of truthful and well sourced facts hiding the occasional nugget of a fraudulent record that supported his unsubstantiated claims.
posted by Daniel Taylor
Daniel - Thanks for reading my comment. I might have gotten just a bit carried away with that "pile of lies" reference. However, in the joint pedigree that Anjou palmed off as that of the Perrins of Rehoboth and Hebron, the proportion of fiction (or at least "imagination") vs. truth is much greater than that of a mere fraudulent "nugget" hiding in "mountains of truthful and well-sourced facts."

Note that Robert C. Anderson, in the piece quoted in the Wikipedia article you mentioned, called Anjou out for "MANY wild geographical leaps...[emphasis added]" -- not just one or two.

I tried for a long time to verify even a quarter of the Anjou pedigree for the Perrins of Hebron, but came up empty-handed. There definitely were people named Perrin/Perring/Peryn at most if not all of the locations mentioned by Anjou at various times, but it was in purportedly linking them together that Anjou produced most of his "nuggets."

E.g. the notion that we descend from a "Petrus Peryns" who was "lord mayor of London" in the 15th century is at odds with the list of Lords Mayor of London (on Wikipedia). No one named "Peryns," "Peryn," "Perrin," "Perin," etc. appears on that list. Ditto with the list of London Aldermen at http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Documents/aldermen_of_london.htm.

posted by Barry Wood
Perrin-770 and Perrin-2536 appear to represent the same person because: They are the same and my direct family line
posted by Rebecca (East) Herrin
Ashley de la Fouche?

There are three Ashleys in Hampshire, none of them very large and none seem to be called de la Fouche. There is an Ashby de la Zouche in Leicestershire. Its only about 25 miles from Ashby in Leicestershire to Derby (marriage location) It is as much as 190 miles from Derby to the farthest of the Hampshire Ashleys.

posted by Helen (Coleman) Ford

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