Elizabeth (Pinder) Baker (1849 - 1910)

Born 30 Jan 1849 in Cherokee Sound, Abaco, Bahamas

Ancestors

Wife of Samuel Baker — married 9 Apr 1866 in Key West, Monroe County, Florida, USA

Descendants

Died 30 Aug 1910 at age 61 in Elders now Holiday, Pasco County, Florida, USA

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Elizabeth (Pinder) Baker is part of a Bahamian family.

Biography

Elizabeth "Lizzie" Pinder Baker was born 30 January 1849 in Cherokee Sound, Abaco, Bahamas. It seems most likely that Elizabeth was the daughter of Elizabeth Sands Pinder and John Pinder and that she was born when when Elizabeth Sands Pinder was about 18 years old. (See conflicting below for information)

Lizzie's family left Abaco sometime after 1863, the year that her youngest sibling was born and before her marriage to Samuel Baker in 1866. It is thought that Elizabeth Pinder Sr. was widowed before the family immigrated to Key West. Perhaps the Pindlings left Abaco as the result of her father's death for Lizzie's father does not appear in records after 1863. We can speculate that maybe Lizzie even took her family to Key West as part of an arranged marriage. In any case, some of her siblings list 1866 as the date of their immigration.

Once they immigrated to Key Wext, the fate of the Pinder and Baker families became intertwined. Lizzie married Samuel Baker on 8 April 1866 in Key West, Florida, in a ceremony performed by S. Gardner, M.G. She was 17 years of age. .^[1] On 15 Jan 1870, in a ceremony performed by E.H. Gates M.G., Lizzie's mother (Elizabeth Sands Pinder) married Samuel's brother Henry, a man who was some 15 years her junior.

Brothers Henry and Samuel Baker are are listed in the US Census of 1870. They shared a home with their wives Lizzie (Jr) and Elizabeth Pinder (Sr.) The children of Elizabeth Sr. and her first spouse John Pinder also lived with them and the US census lists them all as follows:

Henry Baker M 24 Florida

Elizabeth Baker F 39 Bahamas

Samuel Baker M 27 Florida

Elizabeth Baker F 21 Bahamas

Charles F Baker M 2 Florida

Sarah Pinder F 19 Bahamas

John Pinder M 16 Bahamas

Margaret Pinder F 14 Bahamas

Thomas Pinder M 12 Bahamas

Joseph Pinder M 10 Bahamas

Mary Pinder F 8 Bahamas

Lizzie's sister Sarah Elizabeth married Benjamin Roberts of Key West on December 20, 1870 (the same year their mother was married to Henry Baker and the couple remained in Key West. While Lizzie's siblings Margaret, Joseph Charles and Mary Ann also remained in Key West with their mother, Lizzie's brothers John and Thomas Pinder seem to have joined Lizzie and Samuel Baker as they left Key West and moved north about 200-250 nautical miles to the Anclote area in Pasco County, Florida. Might they have all sailed together, in a sloop or small schooner? Modern sailors say the journey takes 20- 40 hours.

Once they were in the Anclote/Port St. Richey area, the Pinder-Bakers actively participated with a small group of settlers; they are still regarded as pioneers who made a positive difference. According to the West Pasco Historical Society, the Pinder-Bakers " moved to Bailey’s Bluff in 1880 and established a grocery store there. On May 19, 1880, he (Samuel Baker) bought 40 acres of land, for one dollar per acre, so that he could add a citrus grove to his already thriving sponge business based at nearby Bailey’s Bluff. In 1882 he built this home on the property."... " (The Pinder-Baker's) 1882 house is the oldest surviving home of its type in western Pasco county."

Local legend has it that the Baker's land was part of a vast tract given to the Bailles by native Americans in a part of Pasco County, Florida variously called Elfers, Holiday and New Port Richey and Anclote. Although the US Census shows the Bailles a couple of properties away from the Bakers, the Baker home due east and some 3 miles inland from Bailles Bluff which runs parallel to the coast. (This gives a sense of the size of the properties around Anclote in the late 1800s.)

The US Census shows that Elizabeth's brothers John and Thomas Pinder lived on the Baker's land or on properties that adjoined the Bakers. John who was married to "V.M.," worked as a sailor and Thomas Pinder who worked as a farmer, married to Julia C. Goethe of Ga. (Julia is said to be a descendant of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was a German writer and statesman).

As was often the case with Bahamians, the Bakers valued education. According to the Pasco County website " A deed dated April 5, 1888, transferred an acre of property in S20 T26 R16 from Samuel and Elizabeth Baker to the school board. The Bailey school house was located on this property.... "

How long did the civic-minded Samuel Baker's career as a sponge dealer and citrus farmer last? In 1900, Elizabeth was widowed and living with her children James O. , John T, George E. Baker. The census confirms that she was b. Jan 1849.

The US Census of 1900 informs that Elizabeth had 13 children, 4 of whom were serving in 1900. Lizzie and Samuel's offspring who survived to adulthood were all male:

Charles F. Baker b 1868 d. 1895 ( He married Sarah Jame Stephens in 1889)

Samuel B. Baker b. 1871 d. 1914 (He married Rosa Lee Gaines in 1900)

John T. Baker b. 1887 d. 1957 (He married Clara Baillie in 1906)

John Otis b, 1877 d. 1955 ( In 1903, he married Nicey Ella Mobley 1874-1957)

Geogre H. b.1892 . 1966 ( In 1912, George married Nellie Hay b. 1888 d. 1971.)

In 1910, Elizabeth continued to live in Anclote, Pasco, Florida, United States with her son J.T Baker, his wife Clara and her grandchildren Thera (b1907) and Andrew (b1909). The census suggests they were all still in historic Baker home and other sources confirm that the family remained at the home until 1913.

Elizabeth passed away 30 Aug 1910 at New Port Richey, Pasco, Florida, United States of America. She is buried in the East Elfers Cemetery. ^[2]

As for her home, the Baker homestead is still located on its original site which is now called the Centennial Park at 5744 Moog Road in Anclote/Holiday , Florida, 34690. It is an easy drive from Tarpon Springs or even Tampa, Fl.

Although many of the original boards were replaced, the home has been meticulously restored and the volunteer guide who showed us the home was well informed. The original and somewhat unusual construction of the house has been preserved and there is beauty in the building, it shows the mind, hand and craftsmanship of an excellent boatbuilder. Lizzie's original possessions no longer remain. However the citizens of Pasco County have donated an array of commonplace period furniture and utensils. While its doubtful that Lizzie has the quantity of possessions that fill her home, the insight that the collection provides into the era is fascinating in its own right.

Conflicting Information

Pinder-746 has been merged into Pinder-102. The new profile is called Pinder-102. In merging, we have followed all but one piece of the paper trail as well as the lead of Peter Roberts who stated that he "suspects the real parents of Pinder-102 are the current parents of Pinder-746.... because the direct maternal line of Pinder-746 is an mtDNA match with others from the Bahamas." In doing this, we selected John Pinder and Elizabeth Sands Pinder Baker over Joseph Pinder and Elizabeth Johnson Pinder.

To be fair, the dissenter bases his position on the fact that Elizabeth's full date of birth is carved on her grave stone and that birthdate is an exact match to the birth date of the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Johnson Pinder of Cherokee Sound from Abaco church records.

Errors in Bahamian birth records do occur- might this be one of them? All other records show Lizzie her as the daughter of Elizabeth Sands Pinder, immigrating along with and for her entire life living with and alongside the family of John Pinder. adding to the confusion is the fact that Elizabeth Sands Pinder Baker and Elizabeth Johnson Pinder Emigrated from Cherokee Sound to Key West at roughly the same time.

Sources

1. ↑ Monroe County Deeds F: 855, Samuel Baker and Elisabeth Pinder, 9 April 1866; digital image, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99Q5-KHTJ?i=463&wc=QCL8-PTG%3A350470101%2C350518401%3Fcc%3D2046765&cc=2046765 : accessed August 2016).
2. ↑ J.A. & D.S., "Elizabeth Pinder Baker," Memorial no. 15176155, posted 7 August 2006; memorial with photograph, Find A Grave (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BAK&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=11&GScntry=4&GSsr=1001&GRid=15176155& : accessed August 2016).

• J.A. & D.S., "Elizabeth Pinder Baker," Memorial no. 15176155, posted 7 August 2006; memorial with photograph, Find A Grave (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BAK&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=11&GScntry=4&GSsr=1001&GRid=15176155& : accessed August 2016).

• Oreste Lombardi, comp., Elizabeth Pinder, no. 13396, Abaco.ged, 2013 Dolly Mae Bahamas 40th Anniversary CD (Hope Town, Abaco, Bahamas: Wyannie Malone Museum, 2014); citing "Abaco Meth. reg., serial 485." and she was baptized there on 1 April 1849

• Florida, County Marriages, 1830-1957, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWW7-184 : accessed 18 March 2018), Samuel Baker and Elizabeth Pinder, 09 Apr 1866; citing , Monroe, Florida, United States, State Archive, Tallahassee and clerk of courts, various counties; FHL microfilm 946,962.

• Florida, County Marriages, 1830-1957, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWW4-DZC : accessed 18 March 2018), Henry Baker and Elizabeth Pinder, 15 Jan 1870; citing , Monroe, Florida, United States, State Archive, Tallahassee and clerk of courts, various counties; FHL microfilm 946,963.

• "United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNZN-WTJ : 12 April 2016), Elizabeth Baker in household of Henry Baker, Florida, United States; citing p. 55, family 367, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,631.

• http://westpascohistoricalsociety.org/?page_id=496

• "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNZS-BLB : 29 July 2017), Elizabeth Baker in household of Samuel Baker, Precinct 4 and 6, Hernando, Florida, United States; citing enumeration district ED 60, sheet 349D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0128; FHL microfilm 1,254,128.

• "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M368-6Z1 : accessed 18 March 2018), Elizabeth Baker, Precincts 6-7, Chipco, Pasco & Precincts 9-10, Hudson, Anclote & Precinct 12, Ehren & Precinct, Pasco, Florida, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 129, sheet 15A, family 364, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,175.

• "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVKV-CKM : accessed 18 March 2018), Elizebeth Baker in household of John T Baker, Anclote, Pasco, Florida, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 136, sheet 3B, family 58, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 166; FHL microfilm 1,374,179.

• "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVVZ-B4ND : 11 July 2016), Elizabeth Pinder Baker, 1910; Burial, New Port Richey, Pasco, Florida, United States of America, East Elfers Cemetery; citing record ID 15176155, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Lynda Hull for creating Pinder-102 on 10 Nov 13. Click the Changes tab for the details on contributions by Lynda and others.