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Alice Potter was born in England about 1587. She was said to be the sister of Robert Potter. However, based on the year Alice was born, and the year of birth of Robert Potter and each of his siblings, she was likely his aunt, sister of Robert's father George. Terms like sister were often used for an aunt, similar to brother for nephew, etc.
She was the sister of Robert Potter, then of Lynn, Mass., but later of Portsmouth, R.I., where he signed the compact in 1639.[1]
Neither Alice Potter (born about 1587) nor George Potter (born about 1584) were children of Robert Potter and Elizabeth Marshall. Robert and Elizabeth married in 1591. Their first child was baptized in 1592.
Alice married in England about 1610 Anthony Paine. Alice and Anthony had at least four children:
Anne and Anthony did not survive. Anthony Paine named daughters Alice and Mary in his will.
Anthony Paine was admitted as an inhabitant of Portsmouth, Rhode Island on 6 Feb 1638:
Feb 6, of the same year, 1638, ANTHONY PAINE was "received to be an inhabitant" at Portsmouth, R.I., but further particulars concerning him, or his family are wanting, except that...his wife bore the sweet name of Rose.[7]
John Anthony and 28 others (John Tripp, Robert Stainton, George Potter, Robert Potter, Wm Hutchinson, Samuel Gorton et al) signed a Compact of Loyalty to the government of Portsmouth on 30 Apr 1639.[8]
Alice (Potter) Paine died probably at Portsmouth, Rhode Island before 10 Nov 1643, the day Anthony Paine signed a prenuptial with second wife Rose. As a widower, he entered into an agreement with Rose [French] Grinnell, previous to their marriage.[9]
Alice born England, her death was before 10 November, 1643, as at this date, her husband (Anthony Paine) being a widower, and Rose Grinnell a widow (of Matthew Grinnell), they entered into an agreement preliminary to their marriage. ... It was also agreed between Anthony and Rose before their marriage that upon the death of either (after marriage) the property of the one deceased should go to the children of that person; Rose having four children and Anthony Paine three children.
"10 Nov. 1643, his [Mathew Grinnell] widow Rose made ante-nuptial agreement with Anthony Paine, then of Portsmouth, whose wife she became. She deeded to her three sons Mathew, Thomas and Daniel, two ...goats apiece and to her son Mathew a cow; also it was agreed that upon the death of either the property of the one deceased should go to the children of that person".
"We know the names of his three sons only because, after his death, his widow ROSE (___) made a prenuptial agreement on 10 November 1643 with Anthony Paine in which she names her sons Matthew, Thomas, and Daniel (and a fourth child, not named, who may have been a daughter). On 29 October 1649, a widow again, she and her son Matthew surrendered eight acres in Portsmouth to Lot Strange. By 18 March 1650/1 she had married, as her third husband, James Weeden of Portsmouth. She was still alive 17 December 1673 when, as Rose Weeden, she sold her property in Portsmouth to her son Matthew Grennell for 30 pounds and a promise of maintenance for life. We do not know when she died."
"His [Matthew Grinnell?s] wife, named Rose, survived him, being in 1643 the wife of Anthony Paine and later marrying James Weeden. There were three sons and a daughter." Page: pg. 307
{geni:about_me} There are many inconsistencies of the name on this individual married to Anthony PAINE. Most sources say her name is Rose; some will say she is Susanna or Alice.
Relationships: Parents: Father: Robert Potter, b. 1577 - Source: A 1999 Email from Kristin Below (effectively unsourced) Mother: Elizabeth Marshall - same source. Also seen as: Father: George Potter Mother: Martha Siblings: Marriages: 1. Matthew Grinnell: Slade-Babcock Genealogy. (sic: 2nd wife Rose was the widow of Matthew Grinnell) Children: None listed in any sources below. 2. Anthony Paine: married in 1643, will proved 1650: Slade-Babcock Genealogy, Portsmouth Records Children asserted appear to be out of place, mother possibly a sister of Robert Potter, as opposed to Rose: 1. Alice Paine (1609-1690) - birthplace mistaken as Portsmouth, Rhode Island was not founded until 1642 2. Mary Paine (b. 1611) 3. Unnamed Child (b. 1613, died young - birthplace mistaken as Portsmouth, Rhode Island, was not founded until 1639). 3. James Weeden: married in 1650: Slade-Babcock Genealogy Children: None listed below.
comments April 2014
From http://jskent.blogspot.com/2010_04_01_archive.html
10 November, 1643, at this date, he (Anthony Paine) being a widower, and Rose Grinnell a widow (of Matthew Grinnell), they entered into an agreement preliminary to their marriage. ... It was also agreed between Anthony and Rose before their marriage that upon the death of either (after marriage) the property of the one deceased should go to the children of that person; Rose having four children and Anthony Paine three children.
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Anthony's 1st wife, mother of 3 surviving children, died before Nov 1643 2nd wife was named Rose, widow of Alice Grinnell
Rose POTTER was born about 1587 in Portsmouth, Newport County, Rhode Island. She died in 1643 in Portsmouth, Newport County, Rhode Island. She was christened. According to Margaret Bock, Mary Paine was the daughter of Anthony Paine and Rose (Potter) Paine. Herman William Tripp--Remembering......
Anthony PAINE and Rose POTTER had the following children: 1. i. Alice PAINE was born about 1609 in Portsmouth, Newport County, Rhode Island. She died in 1690. She was christened. 2. 193 ii. Mary PAINE. 3. iii. Child PAINE was born about 1613 in Portsmouth, Newport County, Rhode Island.
Anthony signed the Compact which reincorporated Portsmouth on 30 Apr 1639. His will, dated 6 May 1649 was proved in 1650. [cf. Portsmouth Records, 384] Anthony, Portsmouth, RI in 6 Dec 1638, had wife Rose who m. a Weeden, and may seem to have had family from his release, of 1650, to share of property of Portsmouth where he died abt 1640. Genealogical Dictionary of New England Vol 3 p. 332.
Slade-Babcock says: "His first wife was a sister of Robert Potter [Edith Bartlett Bartlett Sumner, Ancestry and Descendants of Amaziah Hall and Betsy Baldwin, Los Angeles, 1954]. He married secondly, in 1643, Rose, widow of Matthew Grinnell, who married thirdly, in 1650, James Weeden. He signed the Compact which reincorporated Portsmouth on 30 Apr 1639. His will, dated 6 May 1649, was proved in 1650 [c.f. Portsmouth Records, 384]." Children Alice and Mary and a third child who died young by first wife.
The Hartford Times genealogical column dated 25 Jul 1948 said Anthony came possibly from Nowton, Lincolnshire, England.
Anthony's first wife was a sister to Robert Potter [Sumner, 143]. Anthony married a second wife in 1643, Susannah having died in 1643, per New England Marriages Prior to 1700.
Anthony, Portsmouth, RI had wife Rose who m. a Weeden, and may and seems to have had family from his release, of 1650, to share of property of Portsmouth
The Name Grinnell comes from the Ancestral File.
MARRIAGE: Rose, widow of Matthew Grinnell, married third James Weeden:
Slade-Babcock Genealogy p. 62.
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Top left of profile There is 1587, Click on birth directly to left of this box and there is Date: BET 1592 AND 1600, Then down under Biography i see 1607 Portsmouth, Newport Co., RI.