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John Price II (1627 - bef. 1662)

John Price II
Born in Henrico, Virginiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1647 in Henrico County, Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died before before age 35 in Henrico, Virginiamap
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Contents

Biography

This profile is part of the Price Name Study.

Birth: about 1628, Virginia[citation needed]
Death: about 1662

Note:

The identity of the wife of this John Price is unknown. She may have been a sister of John and Henry Rowen as evidenced by the Will of John Rowen, 1662, Henrico Co. Another more likely possibility is that she might have married John Rowen after the death of John Price and he was the stepfather of the young Price boys. In his Will, John Rowen instructed his brother Henry to bring up the two sons of the deceased John Price and to manage their estates. He also made small bequests to the orphans, Daniel and John Price. Other bequests were made to his brother Henry, nephew John [son of Henry] and his own son Henry, as well as to Giles Carter. His brother-in-law Richard Ingram was asked to raise his son Henry.
At least one person has suggested that Giles Carter's wife Hannah was another Rowen and that is why he is mentioned in the will. I doubt that. I'm not sure she was old enough to have been married to Giles by 1662 - most estimate her birth as circa 1650. Of course if the estimate is wrong she could have been older. Then if she was older and married to Giles Carter as early as 1662, it seems her children would have been born earlier.
Here is an abstract of John Rowen's Will:
1 May 1662. Will of John Rowen. To nephew John Rowen, son of my brother, Henry Rowen, a cow. To my brother Henry, items, and he is to have the bringing up of the two sons of John Price, deceased, and the management of their estate. To the two orphans, Daniel and John Price, items. To Giles Carter, a cow and gift of a house and land on this plantation for one year, and then it to my brother Henry. All the rest to my son Henry. I desire he be brought up in the knowledge of letters by my brother-in-law Richard Ingram, whom I appoint as guardian and joint administrator to my estate with Francis Dancy. Said child to be in the care of Richard Ingram and his wife and they to dispose of timber and cattle as to be most advantageous to said child. I give to Mr. James and wife a choice of a yoke of oxen.
Wit: Richard Parker, William Fisher, Margaret Crewes.
Henrico Co VA Records, p.15.
ADVENTURERS OF PURSE AND PERSON states that John's wife was a daughter of John Wall, but then cites a deed that is for the John in the next generation. They did conclude that John Rowen was her second husband.
These sons of John Price, Daniel and John, sold 150 acres in 1677, land which was originally patented to the first John Price in 1619. Their uncle Matthew patented land on 23 May 1638; land that was on Turkey Island Creek, bounded by Bremo and the lands granted to his late father John Price and in possession of his mother Ann Hallom, widow. This land was due Mathew in right of his father. A Deed in Henrico Co dated 18 Oct 1681 from Benjamin Hatcher to John Pleasants stated that he was selling a tract of land that had belonged to this father William Hatcher, which William Hatcher had purchased of Daniel & John Price in 1677. This land was known and called by the name of Turkey Island Pointe. A later deed made in Henrico Co in 1691 between John Gundry, son of John Gundry & Ann his wife who was a daughter of Robert Hallum and Ann Price Hallum, reveals Gundry was selling a tract which bounded on Turkey Island Creek, and with the land of John Pleasants, formerly belonging to John Price.
If Daniel and John Price inherited this land belonging to their grandfather, then that also proves that their father, John Price, was a son of the earliest John. The above deeds also make clear that Daniel and John did not inherit the same piece of property patented by their uncle Matthew, but the property that had been the original grant of John Price in 1619. It is not known what happened to the property of Matthew Price, nor if he had descendants.

Parents' Marriage

Husband: John Price
Wife: Ann UNKNOWN
Child: Mary Price
Child: Matthew Price
Child: John Price
Marriage: Between 1620 AND 1623, Virginia[1]

Research Notes

The FamilySearch PID for John Price (1627-1662) has two sources listed as of 22 January 2022: one is Vina Chandler Price's 1988 book and the other is from ancestry (meaning I cannot access it) but had this information:

Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current MEMORIAL ONLY - BURIAL UNKNOWN - HAS WRONG WIFE & MOTHER!!!!
November 9, 2017
url: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/60541/records/2053859
Notes:
This is a Memorial placed without documentation - has WRONG wife and WRONG mother. The earliest John Price's wife's surname is UNKNOWN - she was Ann. John Price II's wife has NEVER been documented! There is speculation but "Wall" is not even among the speculated surnames.[2]

The FindaGrave memorial for John Price (1627-1661) appears to be the one described (shown as son of Ann Baker and husband of Jane Wall).[3]

Margery: The profile for Margery (Price) Pritchett (1660-abt.1711) was detached as his daughter for lack of support. ~ Noland-165, 31 March 2022

Sources

  1. Ancestors & Descendants, Chapter 1
  2. FamilySearch PID #MQXZ-9QF for John Price II (1627–1662), two sources (accessed 22 January 2022).
  3. Find A Grave: Memorial #103851116 for John Price (accessed 22 January 2022). NOTE: Contains unsourced and incorrect information.
  • Vina Chandler Price, C. G., Compiler, Ancestors and Descendants of John Price: Immigrant to Virginia 1610-11 (Baltimore: Gateway Press, Inc., 1988) Chapter 2
Repository: Birmingham Public Library-Tutwiler Collection (Call Number: CS 71 .P946 1988), 2100 Park Place Birmingham, AL 35203 M-T 9AM-8PM W-Sa 9AM-6PM Su 2PM-6PM Phone Number: 205-226-3665
  • Virginia M. Meyer & John Frederick Dorman, "Adventurers of Purse and Person: Virginia 1706-1624/5," (Order of First Families of Virginia, 1607-1624/5; 3rd edition 1987), p.494 "Price"
  • Price, John "The Ancient Planter" is confirmed by yDNA as the ninth great grandfather of K. Coppage and Hershel E. Price Jr. WikiTree id of K. Coppage is Coppage-146 and of Hershel E. Price Jr is Price-16298. Testing company is FTDNA. Both individuals tested at 111 markers. The predicted relationship is ninth great grandfather and is confident.
  • This makes John Price II the eighth great grandfather of Hershel E. Price Jr. as per lineage.

Acknowledgements

  • 10 Oct 2011, Price-1869 created by import of Haden for WikiTree.ged ::by Kay Haden




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One of the witnesses to Rowen's will was Margaret Crews, who was probably the daughter of Ann (John Price's mother, not his widow) by her 3rd husband, Daniel Llewellyn - see Llewellyn-19: Margaret (Llewellyn) Crewes (abt.1640-bef.1676).

edited to clarify the Ann being referred to

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I just started a workspace to try to sort out the children of John Price-171 (attached as this John's father). See Space:Noland-165 Virginia Sandbox6. I think that I might ask the US Southern Colonies Project to take over the effort though. Thoughts?

update - The information on the Sandbox page will be going away, replaced by Space: Price Genealogy - Ancestry of John the Immigrant & Space: Price Family - Jamestown and Virginia Patriots. ~ Noland-165, 31 March 2022

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Liz, I am going to add these two studies to the Price Name Study page so they can be found by others that might be interested in these families if it is okay with you. We already have one John Price listed there, Price-766, with some research notes on the family from another researcher.
Very OK - thanks! I got sidetracked while I was waiting for 30-day default oks on merges. I probably won't get back fully to the Prices until after the Connect-a-Thon (22-24 April).

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
John Price born 1627 Henrico Virginia is listed as father of Abagail Margery Price born 1660 Shropshire England. If the father John is born in Virgina How can the daughter Abigail be born in England?????
posted by Robert Peters
I am going guess a boat is the answer.
posted by Heather Mize
Price-1639 and Price-1638 appear to represent the same person because: Appears to be same person. Spouse listed with variants of LNAB and married name. Suggest merge, then merge and cleanup of spouse information
posted by [Living Knight]
Price-1639 and Price-1638 are not ready to be merged because: Not sure this is same person; one lists Jane Rowan as mother, one as wife. May be father/son or may be error. Needs further research to resolve.
posted by [Living Knight]

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