John Price (abt. 1586 - 1628)

Born about 1586 in Manafon, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Ancestors

Descendants

Died Sep 1628 at about age 42 in Charles City, Colony of Virginia

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Note: A lot of the information that had been included in this profile (and some that remains) has been refuted. This WikiTree page has a brief overview of John; for information about possible children by Ann, see her profile. Price Family - Jamestown and Virginia Patriots has more a more detailed overview. ~ Noland-165, 27 January 2022

Biography

This profile is part of the Price Name Study.

John Price was a Jamestown colonist.

John Price is a Qualifying Ancestor of the Jamestowne Society

John Price,^[1] named in an indenture dated 1610-1611 as son and heir of Richard Price by his wife Ursula,^[2] was born in 1584 in Montgomeryshire, Wales.^[3]

John married Mary _____, who may have immigrated with John; William Price, listed in the 1624/5 Jamestown Muster as arriving aboard the Starr and living at Colledge Lands, Henrico,^[4] is thought to have been their son.^[5]

After Mary died, John married Anne Matthews. (Note: Here she is named as Ann Matthews, elsewhere in the bio she is named Ann Baker. Her maiden name is not known.)

John had married Ann (1604-1666)^[6] by January 1624/5, when the muster showed John Price (40), Ann his wife (21) and a 3-month-old child named Mary at Neck of Land, Charles City.^[7] After John died, Anne married Robert Hallom, then Daniel Llewellyn.

John Price was born in 1584 and came to America in 1610/11, at a time when life was exceedingly hard and few survived. John Price was about twenty-seven years of age when he left Wales to come to America from the county of Montgomery or possibly Brecknock Wales. John Price and his family traveled on the Ships - The PROSPEROUS, The ELIZABETH and The STARR which made up the convoy of 300 people. The trip took three months to make the journey and they arrived in Virginia 22 May 1611.^[8][9]

John Price settled in The Neck of Land Charles City. Indians fell suddenly, by night on settlers 22 March 1622 killing 347 people. The Indians burned their homes and plantations, almost defacing the beauty of the whole colony. John Price and his wife were listed as survivors of the Indian massacre of 1622. ^[10]

John Price and his family lived among other famous settlers such as Captain John Smith who shouldered the biggest part of the responsibility of the settlement, John Rolfe and Pocahontas who left the settlement to return to England in 1616. This left 350 people behind living in six widely scattered and dangerously isolated communities.

John Price also became known as an "ancient planter", meaning that any man who worked seven years "plus" for their "divedent" of 100 acres finally received their land. Many worked several additional years for possession of their land. This also made them eligible for another tract of land in the same amount. ^[11]

John Price was a Member of the Virginia Convention of 1625.^[12]

Research Notes

Although current research casts doubt on it,^[13] the lineage of John Price has been approved by the order of Descendants of the Knights in the Garter in England. Descendants are eligible for membership in the National Society, Daughters of the Barons of Runnemede.^[14]

There have been references saying his middle name is Andrew. No sources are known.

Some trees say his wife Anne was the daughter of Richard Baker and Margaret (Elkes) Baker, but her maiden name is not known.

Information from Vina Chandler Price's 1988 Ancestors and Descendants of John Price: Immigrant to Virginia 1610-11 -

John and his wife Mary had "two sons and a daughter." He immigrated from Wales to Jamestown aboard the Starr, which arrived May 22, 1611.^[15]

Internet Archive's "Open Library" does not have a copy, but does offer the following:

Edition Description: "An exhaustive work of patience and accuracy by a certified genealogist of the known descendants of the first person into America with the surname Price - John Price of Breckonshire aboard the ship, "Starr". Precise tracking and identifiers are used throughout with a scholarly detachment about the veracity of some existing conclusions made by others. She goes not one inch further than the verifiable facts allow."^[16]

First Sentence: "Seventy-eight years ago Benjamin Luther Price published his work, "John Price The Emigrant". To my knowledge this has been the only definitive work to date on the descendants of John Price."^[16]

B.L. Price's 1910 work (available online courtesy of archive.org - image and full text versions) contains some incorrect information (such as John arriving aboard the Starr in 1620) that is corrected by V.C. Price's 1988 work.

Indenture

An indenture is cited as source for his parentage as well as evidence that the John Price of Montgomery, Wales, son of Richard, is the same John Price found in the 1624/5 Jamestown Muster, age 40, having arrived in Virginia aboard the Starr -

• John Price signed an indenture in 1610/11, in which he was described as "son and heir of Richard Pryce of Manavon, Montgomery"^[17]

The SGM discussion about John notes that the citation for the indenture is "British Museum, A.D.D. Charter 1036"^[18] (Google Books' snippit view includes only part of the information from the indenture, which is said to also name John's mother as Ursula). The index of charters describes the indenture as "Manavon Lian, co. Montgom. Sale in, 1610. Add. 1036.^[19]

Transcriptions of the indenture vary. The following information is from the SGM discussion just mentioned:^[18]

• "John Pryce, was described as son and heir of Richard Pryce in an indenture in 1610-11 from Richard Pryce of Manavon, Montgomery County, Gentlemen, and Ursula Pryce, his wife to ___ Robinson. Thomas Pryce, brother of Richard Price II, was one of the witnesses. [Indenture, British Museum, A.D.D. Charter 1036, PC]."^[18]

The SGM post continues: "The signature on this indenture corresponds in every detail with the signature of John Price on the Petition to the King sent from Virginia in 1625-26 when John Price signed as a member of the Burgess. [Public Record Office, London, England, C.O. 1/3, 17276, PC]."^[18]

Possible Children

Better sources needed

Possible children with Mary _____:

1. William Price, born 1606 at Winchester, Hampshire, England; emigrated with his parents; "raised a family at "College Land," and his descendants lived in Gloucester, Middlesex and other eastern counties"^[20] of Virginia.
2. Edward Price, born 1608 in England.
3. Matthew Price, born 1615 at Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales; father of Sarah Price Jameson; died in Henrico. (May also have been either a cousin, or born later and a son of Anne)
4. Richard Price, born 1617 in Montgomeryshire, Wales; died April 1688 in Montgomeryshire, Wales.
5. Margaret Price, born 1622 in Neck Land, Henrico, Virginia; died 1682.

Possible children with Anne:

1. Mary Price, born 1624 in Virginia.
2. John Price, born 1627 in Henrico, Virginia; died 1662 in Henrico, Virginia.

moved from Biography section - John and Anne Baker Price were the parents of the following 3 known children:^{[citation needed]}

1. JOHN PRICE d. 1662, Henrico, VA. He married a daughter of John WALL. They had sons Daniel and John.^[3]
2. MARY PRICE was born October 1624^[21] in Virginia. Said to have married Richard Cocke Sr of Bremo. Although these families were closely associated there is no proof of this marriage.^[3]
3. MATTHEW PRICE was born about 1626.^{[citation needed]}

23 May 1638. Patent granted Matthew Price as son and heir of John Price for 150 acres on Turkey Island Creek in Henrico Co. "granted by patent to his late father John Price, now in possession of his mother Ann Hallom, Widow - being due unto him in right of his father who had a patent granted 20 Feb 1619. ^[22][23]

Sources

1. ↑ Price, John - A6408; born ca. 1586, died 1628; (Muster of 1624/5); Neck of Land: 1625 (Burgess) accessed 18 October 2021.
2. ↑ British Museum, A.D.D. Charter 1036
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2} John Price, Memorial #33482782 (use with caution).
4. ↑ Jamestown Muster (accessed 22 January 2022):
   • Price search
   • Mary, in Price household
   • Starr search
5. ↑ John Price the Emigrant, p. 7.
6. ↑ Jamestowne Society: Price-Hallom-Llewellyn, Ann ( ) - A9556; born ca. 1603/4, died by 1666; (Muster of 1624/5), wife of John Price, Robert Hallom, and Daniel Llewellyn accessed 27 January 2022.
7. ↑ John Camden Hotten, The original lists of persons of quality; emigrants; ... and others who went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700... (1874), page 303 (accessed 27 January 2022).
8. ↑ The first republic in America : an account of the origin of this Nation, written from the records then (1624) concealed by the Council, rather than from the histories then licensed by the Crown, Alexander Brown, Russell & Russell, New York, 1969, p. 149 https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/330625/?offset=0#page=177&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q= attests to the timing of the voyage, not the passengers by name
9. ↑ Virginia Muster of Inhabitants, 1624, Genealogical Records Committee, Army & Navy Chapter (District of Columbia) DAR, vol. 167 p. 10, filmed by Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT, 1970, film 850097 item 6 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9PC-L2CM?i=953&cat=302340 states that he arrived on the Starr
10. ↑ February 1623/4, Living and the Dead (accessed 27 January 2022).
11. ↑ Order of Descendants of Ancient Planters, Ancestor rolls (online) URL updated 4 August 2022
12. ↑ McIlwaine, H. R. and J. P. Kennedy, Editors. Journals of the House of Burgesses of Virginia. 13 Volumes. Richmond, Virginia, 1905-1915. Editors: vols. 1-9, H. R. McIlwaine; v. 10-13, J. P. Kennedy. Vol. 1, 1619-1658/59 (1915), Pages viii, 44
13. ↑ See this 2004 SGM discussion (especially the posts by Paul K Davis).
14. ↑ National Society Daughters of the Barons of Runnemede: Organization, McGregor Company, 1937
15. ↑ Vina Chandler Price, C. G., Compiler, Ancestors and Descendants of John Price: Immigrant to Virginia 1610-11 (Baltimore: Gateway Press, Inc., 1988), Google Books.
16. ↑ ^{16.0 16.1} https://openlibrary.org/works/OL4659308W/Ancestors_and_Descendants_of_John_Price
17. ↑ Vina Chandler Price, compiler, Ancestors and Descendants of John Price: Immigrant to Virginia, 1610-11 Google Books, page 511, accessed 2 February 2022).
18. ↑ ^{18.0 18.1 18.2 18.3} Paul K. Davis, SGM post 29 March 2004, in the discussion "Royal ancestry: John Price of Jamestown" (accessed 26 January 2022).
19. ↑ Index to the charters and rolls in the Department of manuscripts, British museum, edited by Henry J. Ellis and Francis B. Bickley, page 497 (accessed 3 February 2022). See also this G2G discussion.
20. ↑ John Price the Emigrant, p. 55
21. ↑ Mary, in Price household
22. ↑ PB 1, part 2, p.558
23. ↑ Despite Ann being referred to as his mother in the 1638 record, for Matthew to patent land, he would have to be 21, which puts his birth as 1617 or earlier, and Ann did not arrive in Virginia until 1620.

See also:

• Rev. Benjamin Luther Price. John Price the Emigrant, Jamestown Colony 1620, with Some of His Descendants New England Genealogical Society, Boston, 1910.
• Jester, Annie. Adventures of Purse and Person, Virginia, 1607-1625 (Princeton University Press, Princeton, New Jersey, 1956) Page 8
• Alexander Brown, The First Republic In America (Boston: Houghton, Mifflin and company, 1898), Hathi Trust.

Sources of Mary Atkins:

• Research of Frances Lowrey Brasher.

• Book "John Price The Emigrant" By: Rev. Benjamin Luther Price

• Find A Grave memorial

Sources of David Douglass:

• ANCIENT PLANTERS THE ENTIRE LIST, Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999, "David L. Snow" <DLSNOW[at]worldnet.att.net>

• Jamestowne Ancestors 1607 - 1699, Commemoration of the 400th Anniversary of the Landing at James Towne, 1607-2007 (Google book)

• Early Virginia Families Along the James River: Henrico County, Goochland County, Virginia,Genealogical Publishing Company, 1974

• The Royal Ancestry of John Price of Jamestowne (soc.genealogy.medieval)

• John Price the emigrant, Jamestown colony 1620, with some of his descendants (HTML)

• John Price, Ancient Planter

Sources of Hershel E. Price, Jr.

• Price, John "The Ancient Planter" is confirmed by yDNA as the ninth great grandfather of K. Coppage and Hershel E. Price Jr. WikiTree id of K. Coppage is Coppage-146 and of Hershel E. Price Jr is Price-16298. Testing company is FTDNA. Both individuals tested at 111 markers with haplogroup R-M269. The predicted relationship is ninth great grandfather and is confident.