Robert (Quincy) de Quincy

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Robert "Lord of Buckley" de Quincy formerly Quincy
Born about in Leicestershire, Englandmap
Husband of — married about [location unknown]
Died before in Northamptonshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Robert's older brother, Saher II, inherited the English estates from SAHER I. Robert started appearing in Scottish records around 1165. His career was doubtless advanced by his second cousins Malcolm and WILLIAM THE LION (RIN 1913), successively kings of Scotland, and it was certainly KING WILLIAM who granted to him the site of the old castle of Forfar and a toft in Haddington. While his brother Saher II was serving HENRY II as a justice in Normandy, Robert was acting as Justiciar of Scotland, an office which he held from 1171 to 1178.

Royal favour may also have brought about his marriage, at a date unknown, to a notable heiress, ORABILE, daughter of NESS son of WILLIAM. Her father, a prominent but ill-documented figure, was apparently a first-generation Norman-Scot. ORABILE was heir to her father's lands, to the exclusion of his sons Constantine and Patrick, and thus brought to Robert estates at Gask and Deuglie, in Perthshire, at Leuchars, Lathrisk, Beath and elsewhere in Fife, and at Tranent, in Lothian. This fortunate marriage helped to raise Robert in a short time to a level of importance in Scotland greater than the relatively minor position which his brother Saher II held in English society. Twelfth-century Scotland was a land of opportunity and a vigorous younger son such as Robert de Quincy could make there a name which might become known well beyond the bounds of the small northern kingdom.

In 1190 Robert joined King Richard I on the Third Crusade, was constable of a force to take aid to Antioch in 1191 and in the same year was sent with HUGH III, DUKE OF BURGUNDY (RIN 3796) to Tyre to collect prisoners from PHILIP AUGUSTUS, KING OF FRANCE (RIN 3163). On his return from the crusade, Robert took part in Richard I's campaigns in Normandy in 1194 and 1196. On the death of his nephew Saher III, before 1192, Robert succeeded to the English estates of the family's main line and added these to his Scottish possession s.

By the time of his death, which took place before Michaelmas, 1197, he had proved himself as a knight of wide experience and had established his position as an Anglo-Scottish baron of some prominence. The marriage of Robert and OR ABILE was apparently ended by a separation. She later married Gilchrist, earl of Mar, while Robert married a lady named Eve, who may possibly have been of t he family of the lords of Galloway. The matrimonial complexities of this situation have caused a controversy which need not be entered upon here.

Became a "Soldier of the Cross." [The Roll of Battle Abbey]

First of the de Quincys to settle in Scotland. Was a Northamptonshire gentleman who attached himself to William the Lion, or his predecessor. Married Arabella, daughter of Nes, by whom on her father's death, he obtained Leuchers in Fife, and Duglyn among the Ochils. Died about 1190. Appears as a witness in some of the charters of Malcolm IV. [The Bruces and the Cumyns, p. 519]

Lord of Buckley and of Fawside; Crusader; m. Orabella, dau. of Ness; father of Saher de Quincy, b. 1155; d. c. 1198. [Ancestral Roots, p. 58]

Sources

  • Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs Families of the Pacific Northwest, by Jim Weber, rootsweb.com
  • Nobility: Plantagenet Ancestry (William Harry Turton), Turton, William Harry, 1856-1938. (Main), ((Baltimore:MD, Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984), L.A. Public Library GS #Q942.54 H2nic; LC CALL NO.: CS418.T81968; LCCN: 68-54254 //r92), 929.7.
  • Royal Ancestors of Magna Charta Barons," Carr P. Collins (Dallas, 1959), pp.208-09


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  • WikiTree profile De Quincey-1 created through the import of FAMILY 6162011.GED on Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson , Grant_David_Meadors_2008-02-17.ged on Sep 18, 2011 by Grant Meadors, WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams, Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011, Bwiki.ged on 03 April 2011, heinakuu2011-6.ged on Jul 5, 2011 by Johanna Amnelin, Eldred, Hallock, Hayes, Perrin.ged on 20 February 2011, LJ Pellman Consolidated Family_2011-03-21.ged on 21 March 2011, MASTER2011WIKITREE.GED on 27 January 2011m wikitree.ged on Aug 1, 2011 by Abby Brown, Ancestor's that we lost, the Decendants they left behind_2011-08-28_01.ged on Sep 12, 2011 by Willette Bryant, Welder Family Tree.ged on Sep 10, 2011 by Deborah Anne Welder, Hopkins-Elci Family Tree.ged on Jul 9, 2012 by Kristen Crandall, Hopkins-Elci Family Tree.ged on Jul 9, 2012 by Kristen Crandall.

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On April 9, 2014 Darlene Athey Hill wrote:

Quincy-230 and Quincy-78 appear to represent the same person because: same person & should be merged, once his parents are merged. Thanks.


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