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James Randolph was born about 1725[1] in Virginia.[citation needed]
James married first Margaret Smalley in 1748 in North Carolina.[citation needed]
He married second Mary (Polly) Dye after 12 December 1781 in Caswell County, North Carolina, when James and David Shelton posted £50 bond, and James obtained license to marry.[2]
On 20 December 1781, James Randolph of Caswell County, North Carolina, entered into indentures with four sons, selling or giving each of them land in Caswell County:[3][4][5][6]
He was residing in Caswell County in 1790. (there are two James Randolph's documented in Caswell County, NC in 1790)* 1790 Census: "1790 United States Federal Census"
The National Archives in Washington, DC; Washington, DC; First Census of the United States, 1790.; Year: 1790; Census Place: Caswell, North Carolina; Series: M637; Page: 81
Ancestry Record 5058 #159629 (accessed 11 October 2023)
James Randolph in Caswell, North Carolina.
James died before October 1797, presumably in Caswell County, North Carolina.[7]
James' children with his first wife (unknown) presumably include:
James' children with his second wife Mary Dye presumably include:
James names "my Son in law William Dye" in his Will. Dye could have been married to Rebecah who by tradition went by the name Catherine. Alternatively, Rebecah could be a younger daughter still living at home as James bequeaths her "one feather Bed and furniture, Called her bed." See Disputed Children.
Last Will and Testament of James Randolph Sr[7]
Caswell County, North Carolina.
15 June 1797.
October Court 1797 (proved).
Caswell County[7]
October Court 1797
On 1 November 1797, a part of the estate of James Randolph, deceased, was sold at twelve months credit.[8] Signed: James Randolph Jun'r (his mark), William Dye (his mark).
This Indenture[9] made this 3d day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and five between Thomas Read of the County of Caswell and State of North Carolina of one part and Thomas Gatewood & Company of Milton and State of North Carolina of the other part witness that the said Thomas Read for and in Consideration of the Sum of two hundred and fifty Dollars to him in hand paid by the said Thomas Gatewood & Company the Receipt whereof he doth hereby acknowledge that Given and Granted and by these presents doth give grant bargain and Sell alien in fee of release & confirm unto the Said Thomas Gatewood & Company all that tract or parcel of land and premises Situate lying and being in the County of Caswell and on Randolphs Spring branch and of Country line Creek and bounded as followeth to Wit Begining at a Stake in William Moore?s line & runs thence a conditional line South ten degrees East ninety nine poles to a white oak thence South about twenty West forty two poles to a dead post Oak thence south Thirty two Degrees East sixty five poles to a post Oak corner of James Randolp Jr thence East Sixty poles to a hicory [hickory] Saplin a corner of Said Randolps and also a Corner of James Randolps orphans thence North with the line of James Randolph Decd and the lines of Ann Smith one hundred and Ninety two poles to a Stake a corner of Said Smiths old Survey thence West with the lines of Said Smith William Rainey and said William Moore one hundred and one poles to the begining containing by Estimation one hundred and two acres of land be the same more or less with the Reversion and Reversions remainder and Remainders rents issues and propets [?] Thereof To have and to hold the above said land and promises together with all and Singular the appurtenances there unto belonging or in anywise appertaining to the only use benefit and behoof of them the Said Thomas Gatewood & Company their heirs and assigns forever and the Said Thomas Read for himself his heirs Execrs and admrs to and with the Said Thomas Gatewood & Company their heirs Executors and Administrators that the aforesaid tract of land promises Together with all and Singular the appertenances thereunto belonging he will forever Warrant and Defend from the lawful claim or Claims of him his heirs Execrs and Admrs and from the lawful claim or claims of every other person claiming or to claim by from or under him them or any of them to the only proper use benefit and behoof of them the Said Thomas Gatewood & Company their Heirs and assigns forever In Witness whreof he the Said Thomas Read hath hereunto Set his hand and affixed his Seal the day and year first above written
Thomas Reid {seal}
Signed Sealed and Delivered In presence of
Jos Samuell
Durrell Richards
Jno Stanfeild
State of North Carolina
Caswell County
July Court 1806
The Execution of this deed was duly proved in open court by the oath of Josiah Samuel one the Subscribing Witnesses thereto and on motion ordered to be Registered
Test Ad Murphey CC
Conflation occurred because three different Randolph DNA were in Caswell County, North Carolina in same time frame.
Name
An unsourced middle name Richard was previously listed in the biography.; likely conflated with incorrect Randolph DNA.
Birth
His birth date is unsourced. The attached children are listed as born between 1750 and 1786, though the 1750 dates are also unsourced. The 1750 birth date of his daughter Rebecah is estimated from her husband's birth date.
James' birth date is therefore estimated from the estimated birth date of his daughter Rebecah, (about 1750 - average 25 years age of father at birth of first child) = about 1725.
An unsourced birth of 17 Jan 1725 in Roanoke Magisterial District, Halifax County, Colony of Virginia was previously (merged) listed in the data field.
An unsourced birth of Sep 1725 in Roanoke, Halifax, Virginia, was previously listed in the biography.
Death
An unsourced death of 17 Jun 1797 at age 72 in Milton, Caswell, North Carolina, United States was previously (merged) listed in the data field.
Some show his parents as Alexander Randolph and Margaret Swearinger, 1742 Old Edgecombe Co, NC., but without supporting documentation.[citation needed]
Suggested by previous researchers, with not enough supporting documentation:
Rebecca Robertson ("Sister of Thomas")
Jane Barnes
Jane Unknown
Unknown Graves
Margaret Smalley / Unknown Smelley
Frances Bland / Francis Blanch.
Note from L S Randolph: This wife was from conflation of James Richard Randolph and goes to a different DNA Randolph. There is no James Richard Randolph; it is Richard Randolph and James Randolph. Two different people, two different locations and DNA.
Some researchers cite Rebecah named in the Will as an adult child of James Randolph, married to William Dye named as his son-in-law. It was passed down orally through direct descendants that this older Rebecah went by the name "Catharine" and was a daughter of James Randolph's 1st wife (Unknown).
The Rebecah named in the Will is also reasoned to be a younger child of Mary Dye still living at home because she is left "One feather bed and furniture, called her bed" etc, and also is named "Rebecah Randolph" in the Will rather than "Rebecah Dye."
Some researchers also show Elizabeth Randolph (bef.1781-) as a child of James Randolph, although she isn't named in the Will. [needs reliable source]
[Some of the following is speculation and needs to be sourced or dis-proven. The portion reliably sourced should be merged into the biography.]
He is not believed to be related to the famous Randolphs that married into Thomas Jefferson's family. It isn't know if he was born in North Carolina or this country. (source? Possibly supported by DNA information provided by Bill Randle, Y-DNA Randolph project manager.)
It is believed that James lived very close to the border of Virginia where William Dye Jr. lived. (source?)
A James Randolph bought land on the south side of the Tar River in Edgecombe, (south of Caswell County) near his father in 1759. (source?)
He was buried on the Randolph Farm, Bent Road, Stone Marked 'J'. (source?)
There was a James Randolph that surveyed land in Orange / Caswell County, Virginia in 1753, and helped build a road from Halifax to Caswell. Halifax County Va.was right across the border. There is a Halifax County North Carolina and not to be confused with the county in Virginia. (source?)
James Randolph (Randel)'s name is on a petition list to divide Orange Co, 1774. (source?)
He buys land on Country Line Creek, 1777. (source?)
See FTDNA Randolph/Randall/Randle/Randol Surname Group - YDNA, subgroup I-M253: Caswell County.
From Bill Randle, Y-DNA project manager:
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The Will his of son James Randall (Randolph), 1831 Pulaski County, Kentucky, Will Book 3, P 75-77. In this record his name is "James Randall". Whether phonic spelling of "Randolph" gone awry, Researchers dubbed him "James R Randolph" or "James Randall Randolph". Later on, Ancestry the name morphed to "James Richard Randolph" because of the availability of the records and no map usage, people assumed him incorrectly to "The Randolphs of Henrico". The morph became a conflation of the real "James Richard Randolph of Henrico"
The proper citing should have been James Randolph/Randall. A phonetically misspelled name can become a legal name but does not change the origin of the original DNA haplo-group. Geneanet is a big promoter of the conflation; do not use that forum.
The Family Tree DNA evidence, reflects a possible connection to Giles Randolph who is also I M-253 like James Randolph. (Bill Randle the Administrator of Randolph Family Tree DNA believes the connections is far more distant than most hope for). The chart classifies James Randolph as "Randolph of Caswell County NC" and two other testers with same haplo group I M-253 but call them the "Giles Randolph" group. The working theory is one of Giles Randolph sons is the connector. But after 22 years, the connection has not been found. I used "22 years" based on the research notes of various Randolphs researchers who were on a private Randolph site and control the DNA donors on Family Tree. I personally have been involved 20 years and James direct descendants far longer.
edited by L S Randolph
This profile's current last name of Randall was changed to Randolph after waiting a week for a response to the question. It appears there is still no reliable source for a current last name of Randall for this profile.
edited by Ken Spratlin
B. Several children connected to Mary Dye as their mother, when they were already adults when James Randolph married Mary Dye as evidenced by he deeded them land the same year. (children who do not belong to Mary Dye: Abraham, James, Robert, and William). C. There isn't an indication that James has the middle name of Randall D. There isn't any proof that James Randolph, Sr was born in Bertie, North Carolina or anywhere in North Carolina- must meet the Genealogical proof standard and other public trees do not meet the standard. E. Fake findagrave profiles do not meet the GPS; For a findagrave to be considered as proof need a headstone or a reliable obituary from a newspaper of the time or another document. We can say he died in Caswell County, North Carolina, but not Milton, Caswell County, North Carolina.
There isn't any direct or indirect evidence to support Margaret as the wife &/or mother of James Randolph and his older children. This has been researched for a minimum of 25 years (Randolph Group originally on MyFamily (bought and closed by Ancestry) and now on https://spokt.com/hubs/4906
I have been unsuccessful in locating the original origin of this woman; perhaps the people who continue to record her as James Randolph's wife could weigh in with their direct and/or direct evidence.
Fitz Randolphs _there might have been a mix-up and an early researchers assumed James was a Fitz Randolph. This appears to go back at least 23 years on Ancestry.
James was obviously married twice and his second wife was Mary Dye. Where his first wife's name came from; I just can't figure out the source.
I think James Randolph should be Project Protected with first wife Unknown or not listed.
The Randolphs, was published in about 1974. IDENTIFIER 36815 CREATOR Randolph, Lucille Scott EXTENT 378 p. LANGUAGE English eng ACCESS LEVEL Public PAGE COUNT 388
The book details the original source material for the earliest Randolphs in America. Image 77-106 are about the Caswell County Randolphs and includes James' will, probate, deeds, Revolutionary War Vouchers; their search for Randolph graves, and other records. The author mentions James having a first wife, but he does not name her or even speculate about who she may be.
Lucille and Harold Randolph studied the surrounding counties searching for James Randolph. They detail the Revolutionary War events in and around Caswell County.
Image 103 reveals Harold Randolph is a direct descendant of James Randolph, Sr via his son, John, who went to Pulaski County, Kentucky.
here is the URL for the book: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/101658/?offset=&return=1#page=1&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=
it does require a login to Familysearch.org
See also - other family trees:
Ancestry Profile for James Richard Randall Sr (1725–1797). [unsourced] (Col Richard Randolph and Jane Kennon Bolling are not same DNA) Ancestry Profile for James Randolph (1725–1797). [unsourced]
A better Ancestry Tree reference with sources are trees I am working.
James Randall Randolph Sr* 1725–1796 BIRTH 09 MAR 1725/17 JAN 1720 • Bertie District, North Carolina, USA DEATH 14 JUN 1796 • Milton, Caswell County, North Carolina, USA https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/173559570/person/182291435968/facts
James Randall Randolph Sr_ I M-253 1725–1797 BIRTH 09 MAR 1725 • Bertie District, North Carolina, USA DEATH 14 JUN 1797 • Milton, Caswell County, North Carolina, USA https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/172390735/person/352395951553/facts
edited by L S Randolph
Property 20 Dec 1781 • Caswell County, North Carolina Deed Bk A.; #657 - James Randolph of CC to Abram Randolph of same, for love of his son, 90 A on a fork of Smith's Mill Cr adj Abrum Dunaway, Reuben Taylor, Wm. Randolph, Robert Randolph. Wit.: Ad Murphy, H. Harralson, Benj. Debow
Property 20 Dec 1781 • Caswell County, North Carolina Deed Bk A; #655 - James Randolph of CC to Robert Randolph (his son), for 100 lbs, 90 A on Country Line Cre adj James Randolph Jun., on the main road. Ann Smith, William Ragsdale. Wit.: Ad Murphy, H. Harralson, Benj. Debow.
Property 20 Dec 1781 • Caswell County, North Carolina James Randolph of CC to James Randolph, Jr., for 100 lbs, 90 A on Countyry Line Cr adj Abram Dunaway, William Hall, William Randolph. Wit: Ad Murphy, H. Harralson
20 Dec 1781 • Caswell County, North Carolina Deed Bk A, #658 - James Randolph of CC to William Randolph, for love & regard to his son, 90 A both sides Ann Merrit's Mill Cr adj Reubin Taylor, Ann Smith, Mereweather's Fork on Dan R, along the road to lines of Robert & James Randolph. Wit: Ad Murphy, H. H
Property 20 Dec 1781 • Caswell County, North Carolina Deed Bk A.; #657 - James Randolph of CC to Abram Randolph of same, for love of his son, 90 A on a fork of Smith's Mill Cr adj Abrum Dunaway, Reuben Taylor, Wm. Randolph, Robert Randolph. Wit.: Ad Murphy, H. Harralson, Benj. Debow
edited by William Randolph
If nothing turns up to substantiate the middle name, the I'm strongly in favor of removing it.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/490729-caswell-county-north-carolina-land-grants-tax-lists-state-census-apprentice-bonds-estate-records?viewer=1&offset=0#page=27&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=
and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-998Q-SNCF?i=199&cat=398492
That property mentions "Country line Creek" which implies that it was near the North Carolina/Virginia border. It also mentions Ann Smith line. With the following information, that allows us to place his property in or near Milton N.C. http://sites.rootsweb.com/~nccaswel/families/smith-anne.htm
James sold the 360 acres purchased above to his four sons on 20 December 1781. There is no mention of his wife's dower rights, so possibly this means that his wife had died before this date: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-898Q-35P?i=331&cat=398492 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-998Q-3V8?i=332&cat=398492 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-998Q-3RC?i=333&cat=398492 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-998Q-3RC?i=333&cat=398492
Robert (of Person County) sold his 90 Acre property back to James Senr. on 7 May 1793 for 15 pounds Virginia money: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-898M-83H8?cat=398492 and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-898M-83H8?i=305&cat=398492
A later purchase of land by William Dye in 1795 involved a lot in Caswell NC that included mention of Ann Smith's former corner post, James Randolph's line and Ann Merrit's line: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-898M-8SLK?i=495&cat=398492 (Note - witnessed by James Randolph Jr.)
William Dye sold a portion of the purchase to James Randolph Sr. about a month later: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-898M-8SLC?i=506&cat=398492
James Randolph's will is dated 1797 June 15, but the will was not recorded in court until the October Court of 1797. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-JX3V-JN?i=530&cc=1867501&cat=258659 This suggests that James died some months after the will was written, since the estate could not be dispersed until after the court approved the executors. Note that the will disposes of 140 acres of land, which is the 90 that James purchased from Robert Randolph in 1793 and the 50 acres that William Dye sold James in 1795.
A purchase of land by Jacob Dye in 1762 - a portion of which he later gave to William Dye shows that the property lies on the "Country line" and south of the Dann River. This then refers to the Virginia - North Carolina border: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4V-BTF2?i=638&cat=406522
Jacob sold a portion of the land he retained from the original purchase above to James Reyley in 1784. The boundaries mention the lines of George Conally, Ann Merritt, David Gordon, Addam Gan, William Lee, Jacob Dye, James Phelps. Ann Merrit's property lies in North Carolina and is mentioned in William's land purchase in Caswell in 1795 above. This then confirms that Jacob Dye and William Dye were neighbours across the state line with James Randolph. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSL6-49ZG-T?cat=406522
Note also that when William Dye married the daughter of James Randolph, it likely happened after James bought his property in 1778. William must have married before that date, so James Randolph's daughter would have been a second wife.
One other comment - on the 1785 census of Halifax county http://genealogytrails.com/vir/halifax/1785census.html William shows 9 in his household. At that date, he likely had 5 children, what with the war and losing his first wife and the known later children. That leaves 2 extras. He is shown as having an adult brother with him in head tax censuses starting in 1789, so the two extras may have been his mother and father or, assuming that his father had died by then, his mother and brother. I think that Jacob Dye's wife did not mention William because she was living with him and was the only son who had not sold at least some of the land transferred to him.
Also, the 1770 transfer of land from Jacob Dye to William Dye is immediately followed by an identical transfer of land to Jacob Dye Jr. - same amount of land, same wording and same date. That looks more like the equal treatment of siblings than a variety of payment for services rendered. And at that date, William would have been 23 and not likely to have been a skilled craftsman. That date also is very near the date of the birth of William's first child, and more of a motivation (for a father) than payment for services rendered. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4V-5SKT-F?cat=406522 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4V-5SKF-X?i=617&cat=406522 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4V-5SK6-5?i=618&cat=406522
edited by Paul Sigmundson