Randal Roberts (1704 - 1785)

Born 16 May 1704 in County Cork, Ireland

Ancestors

Husband of Martha (Westropp) Roberts — married 2 Feb 1734 in County Cork, Ireland

Descendants

Died Jul 1785 at age 81 in Britfieldstown, County Cork, Ireland

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Biography

NOTE: John Roberts, currently attached as his son, is being actively researched as he is not supported by the current sources. Cody-939 06:01, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Randall Roberts was born on 16 May 1704 in County Cork, Ireland.^[1][2] He was the eldest son and heir of Thomas Roberts of Britfieldstown, County Cork,^[3] and Jane Hodder.^[1][2]

On 2 February 1734 in County Cork, he married Martha Westropp.^[1][2][4] A marriage settlement was made on 1-2 February 1733 (1733/34), with a deed of lease and release lodged on 12 November 1748.^[5]

Randall and Martha had issue:

1. Sir Thomas Roberts,^[1][2] Bart, eldest son b 27 May 1738 m Amy Johnson
2. John Roberts^[1][2] second son b abt Feb/March 1739 at the earliest (more likely later than this)
3. Martha Roberts^[1][2] m Edward Galwey
4. Hannah Roberts^[1][2] m Nicholas Green Evans
5. Jane Roberts^[1][2] m James Norcott
6. Anne Roberts^[1][2] m William Anderson
7. Frances Roberts, known as Nanny^[1][2] m Arthur Norcott

He succeeded to the Britfieldstown estate on the death of his father in 1744.

In 1775, Randal Roberts assumed the Roberts baronetcy of Glassenbury, County Kent.

Jane Roberts, his daughter (the daughter of Sir Walter Roberts, 6th and last Baronet of Glassenbury) and eventually his sole heiress, married on 23 October 1752, George (Beauclerk) 3d Duke of St. Albans, but died s.p. in December 1788 and was buried at Cranbrook. The manor of Glassenbury passed, under her will, to Thomas Roberts of the county of Cork, her Grace being apparently under the impression that he was of her family, inasmuch as his great great grandfather, the Rev. Thomas Roberts, Chancellor of the diocese of Cork (died 1664, aged about 74), was, in a pedigree (by Hawkins, Ulster, 22 June 1775), made identical with Thomas Roberts, 2nd son of the 1st Baronet Sir Thomas Roberts. The last-mentioned Thomas Roberts, however, died s.p. (without offspring) in 1644. Had such descent been proved, it would have carried with it the Baronetcy of 1611 and the right to the Coat of Arms borne by those Baronets. That pedigree, however, was rejected by the Heralds' College, so a new Coat of Arms was granted to him, and the Grantee was created a Baronet on 20 September 1809. Now he was being described as "of Glassenbury, co. Kent and Brightfieldston, co. Cork''^[6]

He passed away in July 1785, with Britfieldstown passing to his eldest son and heir, Sir Thomas Roberts.

Death Notice - Hibernian Chronicle 4 July 1785

at Britfieldstown in the 81st year of his age, Sir Randol Roberts, Bart....estate descends to his eldest son, now Sir Thomas Roberts, Bart.^[7]

Research Notes

The Roberts Baronets of Glassenbury accepted this Britfieldstown line as their descendants but it is still debated. Cokayne states that Rev Thomas Roberts was not the second son of Sir Thomas Roberts. This is a separate issue to the J Montgomery Seaver fraud (see below).

There are conflicting death dates and places. From the death notice in the Hibernian Chronicle on 4 July 1785, it would appear that he died in Britfieldstown, County Cork, Ireland in 1785 not Surry, North Carolina, United States in 1803.

As this Roberts line has been the victim of genealogy fraud by J Montgomery Seaver all profiles are being researched to find credible sources to authenticate the pedigree. Please do not rely on the information until this is completed. Some of the information in the Seaver books is correct.

The books under suspicion are:

• Roberts Family Records
• The Roberts Genealogy

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9} Pedigree of Roberts: Debrett, John and Courthope, William (1835) Baronetage of England : with alphabetical lists of such baronetcies as have merged in the peerage, or have become extinct, and also of the existing baronets of Nova Scotia and Ireland ; edited pp345-346 Debrett's Pedigree of Roberts of Glassenbury, Co Kent & of Brightfieldstown, Co Cork
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 2.9} Pedigree of Roberts: Burke, J. B. (1845). A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the British Empire. United Kingdom: H. Colburn. p840 Burke's 1845 Pedigree of Roberts Baronets
3. ↑ Pedigree of Roberts: Burke, Sir Bernard (1863) A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland p1276 Burke's 1863 Pedigree of Roberts of Cork
4. ↑ Marriage: Marriage Licence Bonds, Diocese of Cloyne, Cork Randall Roberts and Martha Westropp 1733
5. ↑ Marriage Settlement: Registry of Deeds Ireland Vol131:Memorial 89688:p421-411 Memorial Extract Memorial Roberts and son to Roberts and others
6. ↑ Pedigree of Roberts Baronets: Cokayne, George E. Complete Baronetage. Vol. I. 1611-1625. Exeter: William Pollard & Co. Ltd, 1900 p152
7. ↑ Death: Irish Newspaper Transcript Archive, Ffolliott Collection 1756-1850. Death Notice of Randall Roberts

• Pedigree: Montgomery-Massingberd, Hugh. Burke's Irish Family Records. London, U.K.: Burkes Peerage Ltd, 1976.[Hagy-366]
• Pedigree: Mosley, Charles, editor. Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes. Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003.[Hagy-366]

See also:

• The Peerage #151172 Randal Roberts
• Landed Estates Database: NUI Galway Estate: Roberts (Britfieldstown)
• Buildings of Ireland Britfieldstown House, Roberts Cove, County Cork
• Wikipedia: Roberts baronets

Acknowledgments

Thanks to Joyce Ann Mize for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Joyce Ann and others.

• Source: Ancestry Family Tree NOTE: This link is broken:

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=90454262&pid=455