Wife of Teuwise Mattheus Abrahamsen Van Deursen — married 1653 in New Amsterdam, New York, New York
Death
About or after 1681 in Albany, Albany, NY
Died after July 1709 in Columbia, Albany County, New York[citation needed]
Research Notes
Research done to support the US Presidents Project indicates that while some indicate that her maiden name is Robberts, there are no records to support this assumption.[4][5][6]
↑ Roberts, Gary Boyd, comp. , Ancestor s of American Presidents , Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society (2009) , 20, 570
Ancestry Family Trees. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network.
Source: N7549: MAR: FHL film #1011925, item 1 "Van Duersen Family" by Albert Harrison Van: Deusen, p. 5
Source S185: GEDCOM file submitted by Thomas Gull - from Rootsweb.com gedcom file, Imported on 30 April 2010.: Source: #S185: Reference: 1538: Reference: HOWK
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Family Search. FSFTID KV2N-YPN
DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Helena by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA.
Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
There are at least three possible marriages within London, England for a Robert Roberts:
24 Aug 1626 to Ann Walker at St George Martyr, Southwark; 11 May 1626 to Elinor Warren at St Mary Lambeth and 6 Sept 1629 to Mary Cooks at St Martin Ludgate. London Parish Registers available by subscription on ancestry.com
I should have said, there are no primary sources for her name.....yes, there are a lot of secondary sources that have copied each other and have that name.
Thanks, Dr. Theodore. Unfortunately, that familysearch page is an excerpt from a user-contributed family tree, and there's no indication (other than an Ancestry.com URL for an abandoned online tree) to indicate the basis for it.
The link you gave is from Marlyn Lewis's database. When he has a good source, he includes it. You're right to question it. The source given for that entry is far from good - "Ancestry.com, Submitted by fschaming36."
Why would we merge into the high numbered profile? Merges should go into the lower numbered profile unless the name is incorrect. Merging into the higher numbered profile causes more redirects. The other profile not having content makes the merge even easier to cleanup. I will swap the ppp and NNS.
Merge is impossible into the NNS PPP higher number. The system will never allow it.
The only solution is to either change the LNAB first on the lower number, or to do a PPP swap, and then restore the project manager accounts. I already set the father link, so that it will not disconnect.
The proposed merge cannot be completed as proposed. Robberts-28 is the PPP profile, but Robberts-26 is the lower-numbered profile.
In this instance, the best solution might be to merge to the higher-numbered profile, since the numbers are so similar and the lower-numbered profile has essentially no content.
Robberts-28 and Robberts-26 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same approximate birth date / area, husbands and marriage date are matches too, children also duplicates.
Roberts-9202 and Robberts-28 appear to represent the same person because: Ellen, you can merge this away. They share the same husband, and the son Robert born 1665 is also a match. Thanks!
Roberts-90 and Robberts-28 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. We should set aka Roberts, and keep Born about 1632 in Beverwyck, Albany, NY Wife of Teuwis A. Van Deursen married 1653 in New Amsterdam, , New York, USA Died after July 1709 in Columbia, Albany County, New York. Thanks!
There are at least three possible marriages within London, England for a Robert Roberts: 24 Aug 1626 to Ann Walker at St George Martyr, Southwark; 11 May 1626 to Elinor Warren at St Mary Lambeth and 6 Sept 1629 to Mary Cooks at St Martin Ludgate. London Parish Registers available by subscription on ancestry.com
by subscription https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61157/images/46155_b289986-00036?pId=1572068
Also in U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Name Teuwis Vandeusen Gender Male Spouse Name Helena Robberts
Citation "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins (over 179,000 names). - Person Page." Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins (over 179,000 names). - Person Page. N.p., n.d. Web. 19 Feb. 2017. .
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3WBJ-69H
http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2659.htm#i79904
The only solution is to either change the LNAB first on the lower number, or to do a PPP swap, and then restore the project manager accounts. I already set the father link, so that it will not disconnect.
In this instance, the best solution might be to merge to the higher-numbered profile, since the numbers are so similar and the lower-numbered profile has essentially no content.