Catherine (Robertson) Collins (abt. 1668 - bef. 1748)

Born about 1668 in New Kent, Virginia

Descendants

Died before 1748 before about age 80 in King and Queen, Virginia

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Biography

Catherine Robertson daughter of JJohn Robertson and Ann Holiday ^[1]

Catherine Robertson presumed Parents John Robertson and Ann Halliday]]

Birth Estimate 1685-1690 most likely New Kent or Isle of Wright vs Spotsylvania, Virginia^[2]

Marriage Estimate 1705-1706

• 1705 King & Queen -- |Joseph Collins (1685-1748) (son of John Collins and Elenore Oliver) (aka Capt Joseph "Oliver" Collins^[2]

Death Estimate 1728; King & Queen [vs Joseph's 3 May 1748][ Catherine born Abt. 1690 in King & Queen County, Virginia, and reportedly died about 1728 in King & Queen County, Virginia. Joseph would be about 40 yrs when Catherine died.^[3]

Children

6 Identified Children Estimated Births 1706 -1728 ^[1] See Joseph Profile for children list

Timeline

County Formations - Colonial Virginia

ISLE OF WIGHT CO. VA Formed 1634, original Shire

KING & QUEEN CO. VA Formed 1691 from New Kent

Founded in 1714, St George Parish served Essex and Spotsylvania counties

1705 Marriage ^[2]

^[1] 1718 - 1828, Essex County., Virginia 1730. Post Tobago Road, Drysdale Parish, King and Queen County, Virginia They relocated [or boundary change] Spotsyvania County, Virginia. Also had land in Orange County, Virginia. 1741-1744 John Robertson (Father of Catherine) made land distribution to Joseph, Thomas, (Joseph Jr) and William

Research

Robertson vs Robinson (interesting parallels between Susannah Lewis and Catherine Robertson Transcriptions of Early Colonial Records for Collins children (sons of Joseph and Catherine) show the 1741-1745 transfer from John Robertson (presumed married Ann Holloway). [Pruitt]

• The will for HOLLODAY, WILLIAM, St. George's Parish, d. Dec. 4, 1744, p. May 6, 1746; Wit. William Waller, Matthew Gayle, Henry Rogers; Ex. sons, Charles and Robert.

Leg. wife Anne; sons John, Charles, George and Robert Holloday; daughter Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Dillard; grandson John Robinson; grandson William Holloday, son of Robert Holloday, all my land in King William Co; grandson William Holloday, son of John Holloday, remainder of my land in Spotsylvania Co; daughter Ann, wife of John Robinson. [Robertson] Page 431) Virginia County Records Spotsylvania County 1721-1800 Will Book A 1722-1749, p. 8

[southern colonist files - many court records lost/burned will abstract not located] John spelled Roberson in his will at Albemarle, [of King & Queen] married Ann Holliday, daughter of William, whose will was probated 1744. In his will John Roberson leaves his personal property to his sister Elizabeth and names his brother Benjamin executor. Presumably His wife Ann died shortly after marriage, as there appears to have been not more than two or three children. One was Elizabeth, who did not marry. John Roberson divided his real property for nominal considerations among the sons of Joseph Collins

Note the Similarities Between name discrepancy as it relates to wife of Joseph Collins married Susannah Roberson (vs aka LEWIS). Benjamin Robinson, brother of John, married Susannah Brock, daughter of Joseph Brock, son of Henry Brock, by 1785. Joseph Brock’s wife was Susannah Branhan, daughter of Daniel and wife Elizabeth (will Spotsylvania, June 1, 17935)

Cavaliers and Pioneers, Patent Book No. 7; [Nell Marion Nugent]; Page 245 John Robertson -- JOHN ROBINSON, 1252 acs., New Kent Co., upon Dragon Sw., 22 Sept. 1682, p. 193. Beg. at Thomas Landford; over brs. of Arracaicoe; by the Mill Path; by Middlesex Path, to Thomas Perrie; &c. 638 acs. purchased of Mr. Samuel Patridge, dec'd., who purchased of Mr. Edward Roe; 614 acs. for transs. of 13 pers: Robt. Castle, Thomas Bretaigne, Wm. Roberts, John Harris, Hugo Hunt, Anthony Drew, Daniel Dew, Thomas Henchman, Walter Waters, Arthur Sturman, John Robinson, Eliz. Richmond, Benjamin Wilson

Cavaliers and Pioneers, Patent Book No. 7; [Nell Marion Nugent]; Page 312 John Robertson --JOHN ROBINSON, 351 acs., New Kent Co; on N. side of Chickahominy Sw; adj. Wm. Bassett & James Austen; on Beaver Dam Sw; 21 Oct. 1687, p. 589. Trans. of 8 pers: Jno. Ellis, Ed. Brenton, Wm. Harris, Jno. Charles, Wm. Okley, Eliza. Jones, James Harris, Jno. Moody.

These same records (https://books.google.com/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&id=B0REAQAAMAAJ&q=john+robertson#v=onepage&q=stratton%20major&f=false p 170 are also "transcribed as John Robinson vs Robertson Roberson]

About 1701 John Robinson (son of Christopher Robinson}, married Catherine Beverley, daughter of Major Robert Beverley of Middlesex County. They had seven children, including John (1704-1766), speaker of the House of Burgesses and treasurer of the colony. In the summer of 1726 Catherine Robinson died and shortly thereafter her husband seems to have left Middlesex. A marriage settlement with his second wife in 1731 places Robinson at the time in Spotsylvania County. His new wife was Lady Mary Bathurst of Essex County, daughter of Lancelot Bathurst of New Kent County and widow of both Francis Meriwether and Reuben Welch.

Cavaliers and Pioneers, Patent Book No. 11; [Nell Marion Nugent]; Page 7 JOHN ROBINSON, GENT., of Middlesex Co; 2000 acs. (N. L.), King Wm. Co; on S. side of the Middle river; adj. his own & land of Larkin Chew; on SE side of Pike Run; on Capt. Chew's line; car. of Capt. Thomas Pettit; on NE side of Poppey river or run; 2 Nov. 1720, p. 48. 10 Lbs. Money

Research Notes

Links are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable /unproven unless sources are contained within). ^[1]

Discrepancy

No original source records have been located to confirm birth or marriage records. It appears that some erroneous information may have been published, and perhaps republished/reported, making the “actual facts” obscure. There is a great deal of conflicting information surrounding the Collins Family of VA – Many Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; conflicting family stories; number of Collin’s with the same names, etc.

• An Effort has been made to update/split individual information from the Contemporary Profiles with co-mingled data on various "Collins (see individual profiles for more detailed information). Researchers are encouraged to reverify (and add source) information; making adjustments to profiles as applicable to the source.

Date Discrepancies There are wide variations in the birthdates for Joseph Collins and Catherine, between 1660-1690. Abt. 1690- appears to be a likely time (presumably Isle of Wright), based upon the marriage dates and approximate ages of Joseph's children. and IGI References (Joseph's 1st child b about 1685-20=1665/1667 -- likely m2X)

Generational Discrepancy - Ann Holiday b 1675, mother of Catherine Robertson born 1690, mother of Joseph Collins b 1686. Either parents are misidentified, or indicated date of birth(s) in error.

Name Variations Robertson vs Robinson; Holiday vs Halliday Holiday or Holladay); Catherine Robertson (daughter of John Robertson and Ann Holiday) [Robertson vs Robinson controversy - 1744-1745 Land records confirm Robertson"

Controversy re LNAB Robertson vs Robinson [[See Robertson-2165

(original error from early research - co-mingled source-to-source information Robertson/Robinson (father John given as both Robertson and Robinson in land records

Note: SOURCES INCLUDE: Orange County Virginia Families, III:33. Orange County Virginia Families, IV:18. WFT 2:4332 and 17:1773. GenDex - Collins family. GenServ (database giln6ba). Submitted by Paul Gilbert, Mukilteo, WA 98275. GenServ (database kinq7ea). Submitted by Dale Kinslow, Shawnee, OK.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3} Prewitt, Richard A. "The Collins Book (Most complete/sourced and consolidated info located for early Collins Families)

   (vs Isle of Wright) Prewitt, Richard A. "The Collins Book - #A6 (A63) p 5-6 ]

   Looks like copy of Collins Book for Capt Joseph - searchable

2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} Joseph's 1st child b about 1685-20=1665/1667 for Joseph's birth -- likely Joseph m2X) m abt 1704/1705 Catherine Robinson/Robertson

   IMR 1 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900

   https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/262418:7836?ssrc=pt&tid=47291004&pid=6763831326 Joseph Collins/Catherine Robertson in the U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Name: Joseph Collins [Source-to-source error in dates] Gender: Male Birth Place: VA Birth Year: 1685 Spouse Name: Catherine Robertson Spouse Birth Place: VA Spouse Birth Year: 1690 Marriage Year: 1705 Marriage State: VA Number Pages: 1
   • IMR #2 Edmund West Family Data Collection - Individual Records
   U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Name: Catherine Robertson Spouse: Joseph Collins Collins Parents: Thomas Robinson Elizabeth Birth Place: Isle Wight Co, VA Birth Date: 1662 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Reference: 7836::0 Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y - Repository: R2 Ancestry.com; http://www.Ancestry.com http://www.Ancestry.com.
3. ↑ Joseph's probate -- No Probate located - see 1748 Court Summons (Fleets Abstracts, p. 39 & 176). Catherine - Probate not located to prove or disprove

Acknowledgements

Special Thank you to all the Collins Researchers that have provided information in order to improve this 2021 profile (Collins Cleanup Crew)

• WikiTree profile Robertson-2164 created through the import of KyleSell.ged on May 1, 2012 by Kyle Sell
• WikiTree profile Robinson-3066 was created through the import of Gedcom ONE for WikiTree.ged on Aug 7, 2011 by Dolores M. Pringle Pringle.
• Jodi (Trogstad) Brennan by 22 Oct 2018.

Ancestry Sources - duplicated above

Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie. Description, This database contains marriage record information for approximately 1,400,000 individuals from across all 50 United States and 32 different countries around the world between 1560 and 1900. These records, which include information on over 500 years of marriages, were extracted from family group sheets, electronic databases, biographies, wills, and other sources.

• http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=worldmarr_ga&h=1029464&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt
• Source: S21 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.
• Source: S27 Family Data Collection - Individual Records, by, Edmund West, compiler. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc,
• Edmund West, comp.. Family Data Collection - Individual Records database on-line. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com
• Source: S98 Ancestry Family Trees Title: Ancestry Family Trees: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com.

• This Profile Represents Catherine Robertson (1690-1748) m Joseph Collins (1667) (daughter of John Robertson and Ann Holiday)
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