Born in Warren, Indiana, United States
Ancestors 
Daughter of Richard S Robinson
and Catharine (Brown) Purple
Wife of
John Fenters
— married
22 Feb 1875 (to 1880) in Warren, Indiana
Wife of
James Jesse Guider
— married
20 Feb 1879 in Warren, Indiana, United States
Descendants 
Mother of
Arvilla Ann (Fenters) Wohrman, Bessie E. Guider, Charlie Bristow Guider, Catherine A. Guider, Zua Mae (Guider) Miller, Jesse James Guider, Opal Eveyln (Guider) Sullivan, Hallich Guider and Richard Lee Guider
Died
at age 44
in San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States
Profile last modified
| Created 11 Sep 2015
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Contents |
Disambiguation
Mary West is not Mary Guider
Allison-4275
Biography
Mary Matilda was born in Warren, Indiana to Catherine Brown and Richard Robinson. There is confusion about her birthdate but it seems to be on the 14 Sep 1856.
DNA links have been established to Mary Matilda's half brother, Lewis Grant Purple and half sister, Catherine Abrams.
Mary was living in Attica, Indiana in 1860.
In 1861 the civil war began, Indiana sided with the North for this war.
In 1865, her half brother Lewis Purple was born.
In 1870 there are two census records which may be our Mary Robertson. First there is a Sarah Robison living in Warren. Warren, Indiana.
She married John Fenters on 22 Feb 1875 in Warren, Indiana.
According to the 1880 Census her father was born in Scotland and her mother was born in Indiana.
After the birth of their daughter, Catherine, in February of 1885 the Guiders picked up and moved to San Francisco, California. Unfortunately, things would not work out well for the family.
Though blessed by my great grandmother Zua's birth on January 30, 1887, the following day, the family lost a son Charlie and five days later, Bessie died as well, 8 days before her younger sister, Catherine, also passed.
I have yet to locate the cause of death, for the children in 1887 but it must have been some outbreak since it affected the three children. Rebecca Johnston says that it was possibly Diphtheria, which in 1887 was endemic to California and where San Francisco, in particular, the greatest number of deaths occurred. The most casualties, being from November to January, averaging 38 individuals per month.
Diphtheria is a disease associated with the poor, over crowded populations of large cities especially in the winter months.
Mary died of acute hepatitis caused by an abscess of the liver.
I do not know the name of the original cemetery she was buried in, but was moved to a new location at Olivet Memorial Park in Colma, where she is interred in an unmarked grave with her three children who died in 1887, and her son Hallich who died in 1960.
In the 1860 census Mary (age 5) was in Attica, Logan Township, Fountain, Indiana, United States.[1]
In the 1870 census Sarah (age 15) was in Warren Township, Warren, Indiana, United States.[2]
In the 1870 census Matilda (age 13) was in Flat Rock Township, Bartholomew, Indiana, United States.[3]
Mary married John Fentres on 22 February 1875 in Warren, Indiana, United States.[4]
Mary married James Guider on 20 February 1879 in Warren, Indiana, United States.[5]
In the 1880 census Mary (age 25), House Keeper, was the wife of James Gruder in Pine Township, Benton, Indiana, United States.[6]
Mary was in a record.[7]
In the 1900 census Mary (age 55) was the wife of James Guider in San Francisco, California, United States.[8]
Mary died on 17 June 1901 and was buried in Colma, San Mateo, California, United States.[9]
Mary's daughter Arvilla Ann Miller married Fred Wohrman on 1 August 1931 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States.[10]
Mary's son Jesse James Guider married Irene Esther Stewart Guider on 24 September 1933 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States.[11]
Robertso's son Hallie Guider died on 26 July 1960 in San Francisco, California, United States.[12]
Research Notes
- Jeanne Mendes gave me some photos of Mary. As she was talking about the photo she said, this is Grandma Purple. I asked her why purple, and she said maybe she wore purple all of the time.
- In the 1870 census, in the county where her first husband lived, there is a family with the last name Purple and a 15 year old daughter named Sarah Robison.
- In the 1860 census there was a woman named Catharine Roberson and a 5 year old daughter named Mary M.
- This appears to be Mary and her mother.
- The marriage of the son, Lewis Purple, referred to his parents as Catharine Brown and James Purple. That gives me the maiden name for her mother hopefully.
- The maiden name of my great great grandmother is listed as Robinson and Robertson. On the 1880 census it says that her father was from Scotland. On the 1900 Census it says that her father was born in Maine. Both list her mother as born in Indiana. Both list Mary as being born in Indiana as well.
Research Next Steps
- Find death information/obits for Catharine Brown Purple and Lewis Purple, they may identify Mary Matilda.
- Find death information for Lawrence Brown a possible cousin to Catharine. It may identify her.
DNA Research
DNA is Confirmed with Triangulation to Catherine Brown
- Maternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group on MyHeritageDNA who share a 13.5 cM segment on chromosome 22, consisting of Todd Martin and Goldsmith-518, his 1st cousin 1x removed, and Tom Hults, his 4th cousin. (Goldsmith-518 and Tom are 3rd cousins 1x removed.) These matches have been independently verified by via the MyHeritage Chromosome Browser. Their most-recent common ancestor is Catharine Brown, the 3x great grandmother of Todd Martin and 2x great grandmother of Goldsmith-518 and 3x great grandmother of Tom Hults.
Maternal DNA Confirmation
Triangulated Match to MRCA Catherine Brown Robertson Purple with the following cousins/half cousins:
- Jeff Bertolissi
- Jeanne Goldsmith
- James Williams
- Vicki Donovan
- Tracy Martin
- Stanley Keith
AU DNA Tests
Prescott Ware
From KOROVIEV1 at Ancestry:
- Yes, three members of my family, my sister Eunice Bukzin; my maternal aunt, Jane Prescott and my 3rd cousin E Moore Stewart, all have Mary Matilda Robertson as a "New Ancestor Discovery " which means she is potentially an ancestor or relative, according to Ancestry's description. The common ancestors between the Prescotts (my line) and the Stewarts are Patrick Prescott and Diana Ware. They had several children. My line descends from Patrick (Jr) and the Stewart's line descend from their son William Marshall. So Mary Matilda Robertson must somehow be related to to either Patrick (Sr) b. 1837 or his wife Diana Ware.
Lewis
Best lead so far is W. Lewis who matches Jeff, Jeanne, Vicki and Angela. All descendants of different children of Mary's. W. Lewis' great great grandmother was a Maggie Robertson.
Testers who match the descendants of Mary Matilda/James Guider are:
- B.A. This match is problematic as it is a shared match to a paternal cousin.
- Eaton
- Moore African American
- McCloy
- Cathy Thomsen
Greer
- https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greear-20
- https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJohn~%20%2Bsurname%3AMoore~%20
%2Bbirth_place%3AVirginia~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1783-1783~%20%2Bdeath_place%3ALouisiana~%20%2Bdeath_year%3A1866-1866~
various
All three groups match the illegitimate daughter of Maude Reveal and Lawrence William Brown.
mtDNA descendents of Mary Matilda are an exact mtDNA match to Rebecca Raburn Stroud who has been researched extensively by the administrator of the test for the illegitimate daughter.
Specifically Robertson/Robinson
Other Likely Matches
Redlon
Redlons from Maine match all of Mary's descendents. On the 1900 Census Mary's father is listed as being from Maine.
- Redlon Matches:
Jeffery:
- Zachary Flowers Isaac Ridlon
- M.D. Maryln Ryappyb (Matches Morgan)
MTDNA results
K2b1a1a
Susannah Stroud is an exact mtDNA match to my brickwall Mary Matilda Robertson
Susannah's descendant James Hopper is also an auDNA match to Mary's descendant Angela Vincent
- A075976
- Total CM19
- Largest CM 8.7
- Distance 6.1
Coding: Revised Cambridge Reference Sequence
- HVR1 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
- 16222 C T
- 16224 T C
- 16270 C T
- 16311 T C
- 16519 T C
- HVR2 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
- 73 A G
- 146 T C
- 263 A G
- 315.1 C
Miscellaneous Notes
- I am looking for information on Mary Matilda Robertson, born in Indiana Sept. 1845. She married James Guider also from
- Indiana. If anyone has any information on either one of these names please contact me by e-mail.
- Thank you,
- Vicki
- The birth information does not match the information on the Interment Record for Mary M. Guider.
- It states she died on June 17th 1901 at the age of 45 years 8 months and 3 days. That would be around September 14th 1856.
- Maybe it was a typo and was supposed to be 54 years 8 months and3days. That would be 1846....
- From Vicki Willis email 8/14/00
- Now on to what I know about the g-grandmother. The 1900 census taken from Soundex index gives Mary's birthday as Sept. 1845 and James' as Jan. 1849. I know that doesn't correspond to the records from the cemetery but it might have gotten confused during the transfer. My sister and I were told when we visited the cemetery that her body was transferred from another cemetery when the original one was terminated. Along with her is the three additional children she had who died in 1886. You see we found out that not only did she give birth to Zua, James, Jr., Opal, Richard Lee, and Hallie, she also had Charlie, Katheryn and Bessie. Unfortunately, the three all died within the same week of January 1886. Their bodies were also transported to Olivet Memorial Cemetery and buried with her body. Her son, Hallie, is buried there but a different plot (incorrect according to the groundskeeper in 2014.. they are all in the same plot - LHM) , he died July 26,1960. My grandmother, Opal, is buried there with my grandfather, she died March of 1976. In addition, her brother who is named, Jesse James, not James Jesse, is buried there with his wife, Irene (incorrect he is buried in another cemetery). He died July 18, 1960 and his wife was buried, Sept. 19, 1940.
Conflicts
- On the 1870 Census she is listed as Sarah (or is it her sister?)
- "United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX6J-5CM : 17 October 2014), Sarah Robison in household of James G Purple, Indiana, United States; citing p. 15, family 120, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,867.
or
- Living with the Phillips family.
- "United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MXXD-9VQ : 17 October 2014), Matilda Robertson in household of James Philips, Indiana, United States; citing p. 12, family 78, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,798.
Known Errors
Mary Matilda is not the daughter of William Robertson and Hanna Shoemaker. I am guilty of the genesis of this error. I had added it to my ancestry tree as speculation, but it was copied as fact and now appears on many trees. I have removed it from my tree and have attempted to nip the error but it continues to propagate.
Sources
Census
- 1860
- "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4FX-R64 : accessed 6 April 2016), Mary M Roberson in entry for Catharine Roberson, 1860.
- 1870
- "United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX6J-5CM : accessed 6 April 2016), Sarah Robison in household of James G Purple, Indiana, United States; citing p. 15, family 120, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,867.
- 1880
- "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHMD-GZ7 : 24 August 2017), Mary M Gruder in household of James Gruder, Pine, Benton, Indiana, United States; citing enumeration district ED 3, sheet 292A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0266; FHL microfilm 1,254,266.
- 1900
- "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M95C-4BX : accessed 6 April 2016), Mary Guider in household of James Guider, Precinct 13 San Francisco city Ward 33, San Francisco, California, United States; citing sheet 3A, family 63, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,240,102.
Marriage
- "Indiana Marriages, 1780-1992," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XF7H-T59 : accessed 6 April 2016), James Guider and Mary M. Fenters, 20 Feb 1879; citing reference p 425; FHL microfilm 1,976,651.
Find A Grave
Find A Grave: Memorial #65120085
- ↑
1860 Census:
"United States Census, 1860"
citing Page: 98; Affiliate Publication Number: M653;
FamilySearch Record: M4FX-R64 (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: 33S7-9YBY-QV9
Mary M Roberson (5) in Attica, Logan Township, Fountain, Indiana, United States. Born in Ind.Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place Catharine Roberson F 37 Ohio Nancy J Albrens F 17 Ind Mary M Roberson F 5 Ind - ↑
1870 Census:
"United States Census, 1870"
citing Page: 15; Affiliate Publication Number: M593; Line: 35; FHL microfilm: 000545867; Record number: 8815;
FamilySearch Record: MX6J-5CM (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: S3HT-XKGY-1 Image number 00231
Sarah Robison (15) in Warren Township, Warren, Indiana, United States. Born in Indiana.Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place James G Purple M 57 New York Catherine Purple F 47 Ohio Lewis G Purple M 5 Indiana Sarah Robison F 15 Indiana - ↑
1870 Census:
"United States Census, 1870"
citing Page: 12; Affiliate Publication Number: M593; Line: 22; FHL microfilm: 000545798; Record number: 7676;
FamilySearch Record: MXXD-9VQ (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: S3HY-6PCH-PP4 Image number 00204
Matilda Robertson (13) in Flat Rock Township, Bartholomew, Indiana, United States. Born in Indiana.Name Sex Age Occupation Birth Place James Philips M 28 Indiana Mary J Philips F 24 Indiana John W Philips M 6 Indiana Nathanial Philips M 2 Indiana Matilda Robertson F 13 Indiana - ↑
Marriage:
"Indiana Marriages, 1780-1992"
citing FHL microfilm: 1976651; Record number: 117;
FamilySearch Record: XF7H-LNP (accessed 11 July 2023)
Mary M Robinson marriage to John Fentres on 22 Feb 1875 in Warren, Indiana, United States. - ↑
Marriage:
"Indiana Marriages, 1780-1992"
citing FHL microfilm: 1976651; Record number: 31;
FamilySearch Record: XF7H-T59 (accessed 11 July 2023)
Mary M Fenters marriage to James Guider on 20 Feb 1879 in Warren, Indiana, United States. - ↑
1880 Census:
"United States Census, 1880"
citing enumeration district , sheet , NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm .
FamilySearch Record: MHMD-GZ7 (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: 33S7-9YYB-9V5B Image number 00368
Mary M Gruder (25), wife, House Keeper, in household of James Gruder (31) in Pine Township, Benton, Indiana, United States. Born in Indiana, United States.Name Sex Age Status Relation Occupation Birth Place James Gruder M 31 Head Farmer Indiana, United States Mary M. Gruder F 25 Married Wife House Keeper Indiana, United States Bessie E. Gruder F 0 Single Daughter Indiana, United States Arvilla A. Fenters F 4 Single Stepdaughter Indiana, United States - ↑
"California, San Francisco County Records, 1824-1997"
FamilySearch Record: QL4B-K1HX (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: 33SQ-G5NS-SX3T
Name: Mary Robinson; Film Nbr: 004311331; System Of Record: SLS; Digital Film Nbr: 004311331. - ↑
1900 Census:
"United States Census, 1900"
citing Affiliate Publication Number: T623; Line: 45; FHL microfilm: 1240102; Record number: 12676;
FamilySearch Record: M95C-4BX (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: S3HT-DTBZ-84 Image number 00268
Mary Guider (55), wife, in household of James Guider (51) in San Francisco, California, United States. Born in Indiana.Name Sex Age Status Relation Occupation Birth Place James Guider M 51 Married Head Ireland Mary Guider F 55 Married Wife Indiana Zua Guider F 13 Single Daughter California James Guider M 11 Single Son California Opal Guider F 9 Single Daughter California Halleck Guider M 7 Single Son California Lee Guider M 7 Single Son California - ↑
Burial:
"Find A Grave Index"
citing record ID 65120085, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
FamilySearch Record: QV2Q-WF8N (accessed 11 July 2023)
Find A Grave: Memorial #65120085
Mary Matilda Robinson Fenters Guider burial (died on 17 Jun 1901) in Colma, San Mateo, California, United States of America. - ↑
Marriage of daughter Arvilla Ann Miller:
"California, San Francisco County Records, 1824-1997"
citing Marriage, San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States, San Francisco Public Library, California; FamilySearch digital folder 004281475.
FamilySearch Record: QL4B-PVV2 (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: 33S7-95N9-S4X1 Image number 00354
Mary Robinson's daughter Arvilla Ann Miller marriage to Fred Wohrman on 1 Aug 1931 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States. - ↑
Marriage of son Jesse James Guider:
"California, San Francisco County Records, 1824-1997"
citing Marriage, San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States, San Francisco Public Library, California; FamilySearch digital folder 004283466.
FamilySearch Record: QL4B-Y2DM (accessed 11 July 2023)
FamilySearch Image: 33SQ-G56V-W7L Image number 00119
Mary Roberts's son Jesse James Guider marriage to Irene Esther Stewart Guider on 24 Sep 1933 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United States. - ↑
Death of son Hallie Guider:
"California Death Index, 1940-1997"
FamilySearch Record: VPWR-7F3 (accessed 11 July 2023)
Robertso in death record for son Hallie Guider, 26 Jul 1960 in San Francisco, California, United States.
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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Mary by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Mary by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
- Lance Martin
:
Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test Full Sequence, haplogroup K2b1, FTDNA kit #397766 - Evelyn Sullivan :
Mitochondrial DNA Test, haplogroup K2b1a
-
~12.50%
~12.50%
Jeanne (Goldsmith) Mendes :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch RA6052782 [compare]
+
MyHeritage DNA, GEDmatch RA6052782 [compare]
-
~6.25%
~12.50%
Lance Martin :
23andMe, GEDmatch MU8098002 [compare]
+
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch FM3058188 [compare], Ancestry member ruggersf
+
Autosomal DNA Test, GEDmatch HL954410C1 [compare]
-
~6.25%
~12.50%
Todd Martin :
23andMe, GEDmatch M360172 [compare]
-
~6.25%
~6.25%
Tracy (Martin) O'Callaghan :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A663507 [compare]
-
~6.25%
~25.00%
Jeff Bertolissi :
AncestryDNA
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~3.12%
~3.12%
Morgan (Reid) Cole :
AncestryDNA, GEDmatch A691815 [compare]
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~3.12%
Austin Goldsmith :
AncestryDNA, Ancestry member agoldsmith1990
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~1.56%
Jerry Hults :
AncestryDNA, Ancestry member GeraldHults
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~1.56%
Tom Hults :
AncestryDNA, Ancestry member ThomasHults
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~0.78%
Darrell Catoe :
AncestryDNA
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~0.78%
Laurence Little :
AncestryDNA
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~0.78%
David Stover :
AncestryDNA
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~0.39%
Cecil Overlease :
MyHeritage DNA
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