Aldert Heymensen Roosa
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Aeldert Heymensz Roosa (abt. 1618 - 1679)

Aeldert Heymensz (Aldert Heymensen) "Albert, Alert, Allert, Alen" Roosa aka Heymans, Heimansse, Rosa, Roose
Born about in Herwijnen, Gelderland, Nederlandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1642 in Herwijnen, Gelderland, Nederlandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 61 in Kingston, Ulster County, New Yorkmap
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Biography

Aeldert Heymensz was born in Herwijnen, Gelderland, in about 1618. No record of his baptism or birth has been located.

According to Engel Roza in De Herwijnse Ro(o)sa’s en de herkomst van hun familienaam, the earliest record of Aeldert Heymensz Roosa is the record of the 1655 baptism of his daughter Neelke, which also names his wife Wijlke Ariens de Jongh. That record identifies him with his patronymic name. The first record that shows him with the family name of Roosa is a deed on 3 March 1660.[1]

A(e)l(d)ert Heymensz wordt het eerst genoemd in de doopakte van zijn dochter Neelke in 1655, waar we ook in lezen dat zijn vrouw Wijlke Ariens de Jongh heet. De eerste aanwijzing dat ook Aeldert de familienaam Ro(o)sa gaat voeren wordt gevonden in de volgende akte:[1]
Translated: A(e)l(d)ert Heymensz is mentioned for the first time in the baptismal certificate of his daughter Neelke in 1655, where we also read that his wife is called Wijlke Ariens de Jongh. The first indication that Aeldert will also carry the Ro(o)sa family name later is found in the following deed:

3 maart 1660; Alen Heymensz Roosa nabuer tot Herwijnen heeft vercoft en opgedragen voor de helfte van vier mergen lants onverscheijden end onverdeijlt met de erven van Govert Ariensz de Jongh inne den gerichte van Hellouw binnen den paelgraeft gelegen tusschen lant van Jasper Geritz oost en Gerardt Falcken west streckende ten zuijden aen lant van willem Jansz cum suis end ten noorden <...> off soo wie en met laste van acht voeten schoordijcks gelegen inne den gerichte van Herwijnen beneden het middel van elk hoeft ende met de helfte van eens thijns van acht gulden jaerlicxs d’erven van Govert Ariens de Jongh voorschreven in eenen eygendom erfflick te hebben en te besitten ende comparant voornoemd verteech daer op en hij geloofde en ende ten waervan ne den boedel van Arien Meertens en borders van sijnen wegh t’onzen lanrecht actum iii martii <1660>[1]
Translated: Alen Heymensz Roosa nabuer to Herwijnen has sold and dedicated half of four morgen land (onverscheijden en onverdeeld=) in good relations with (and to?) the heirs of Govert Ariensz de Jongh in the (gericht=) court of Hellouw within the paelgraft lying between the land of Jasper Geritz (East) and Gerardt Falcken (West) stretching to the south to land of Willem Jansz cum suis end to the north ... or so who and with charge of eight feet situated in the direction of Herwijnen below the middle of each hoeft (head ?)) and with the halve of a thijns (tax) of jearly eight guilders, the heirs of the afore mentioned Govert Ariens de Jongh to have and possess in one hereditary property and the aforesaid comparant (Alen Heijmensz) 'verteech' (=waives?) and promisses and and of which the estate of ​​Arien Meertens and borders of his way at our landright (court) actum iii martii 1660.

Aeldert Heymensz, buurmeester in Herwijnen, had via zijn vrouw Wijntje Ariens de Jongh een dubbele verwantschap met de familie.
Translated: Aeldert Heymensz, 'buurmeester' in Herwijnen, had a double affinity with the family through his wife Wijntje Ariens de Jongh . [1]
On the 16th of April 1660 he and his family arrived at New Amsterdam, New Netherland, on the Bonte Koe (Spotted Cow), recorded as "Albert Heymans, farmer, from Gelderland, wife and 8 children: 17, 15, 14, 9, 8, 7, 4, 2 yrs old."[2]

His wife was Wyntje Ariens (Welke de Jonge). A footnote in Gustave Anjou's compilation of Ulster County probate records lists their eight children as follows:[3]

  1. Heyman Alderse Roosa (1643- ? ) m. Ann Margriet Rosevelt
  2. Arien Roosa (1645 - ? ), m. Maria Eversen Pels
  3. Jan Roosa (1651 - ?) m. Hillegondt Willems
  4. Neeltie Roosa (1656 - ?) m. Henry Pawling
  5. Ike Roosa (1658 - ? ) m. Roelof Kierstede
  6. Jannetie Roosa (1659 - ?) m. Mattys Ten Eyck
  7. Mary Roosa (1660 - ?) m. Lourens Jansen
  8. Guert (1663 - ? ), Baptism Date: 15 June 1663

The will of his son-in-law, Henry Pawling, husband of Neeltje, dated 1691, names her brothers Arien Rosa and Gysbert Rosa.[4]

Aldert Heimansse Rosa died on 27 February 1679, just a few days before the baptism on 2 March of his grandson Aldert Rosa. The child's baptism record identifies witness Wielke de Jongh as Aldert's widow and gives his date of death.[5]

Church Records

Children's baptisms
  1. 1655. 5 November. in Herwijnen (the Netherlands). Kind (child): Neelken; Vader (father): Alert Heijmense; Moeder (mother): Wijlken Ariens de Jong. Getuigen (witnesses): Arien Huijbertse, Neelke Ariens de Jong. [6][7]
  2. 1664. 15 June. Albert Heymensen Roose, Weyntjen Ariens. Guert. Wit: Anna Blom "Hic filius obiit ante baptismum." (child died before baptism) [8]
Baptismal witness
  • 1656. 13 April. Herwijnen. Child Govert, parents: Cornelis Heijndrijxze, Maeijke Ariens; witnesses: Alert Heijmensen, Neeltien Ariens de Jongh ('Hellouw'). [9]
  • 1679. 2 March. In Kingston. Heiman Aldertse Rosa, Margriet Rosevelt. Aldert. Wit: Mr. Roelof Chierstede. Wielke de Jongh, widow of Aldert Heimansse Rosa, who died 27 Feb., 1678/9.[5]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 from: Roza, Engel, De Herwijnse Ro(o)sa’s en de herkomst van hun familienaam, citing Gens Nostra 62 (2007) and HBT no.1252.
  2. Olive Tree Genealogy: Ships' Lists: To New Netherland (NY) 1624-1664 de Bonte Koe 1660 Sailed 16 April 1660 from Amsterdam, arriving New Amsterdam, Captain Pieter Lucasz. Cites (unless noted otherwise): Lists Of Inhabitants Of Colonial New York by Edmund Bailey O'Callaghan, Chapter entitled Early Immigrants to New Netherland 1657-1664.
  3. Anjou, Gustave. Ulster County, N.Y. Probate Records, Vol. I. New York City, 1906. Page 75. Note: Some of the lists like this one contained in Anjou's footnotes have been found to erroneous.
  4. WILL: Henry Pawling; Marbletown, Ulster co., NY, transcription at: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ny/ulster/wills/others/pawling-henry.txt
  5. 5.0 5.1 Hoes, page 11, #175.
  6. Index Kerkregisters Doop en Trouw, 1607-1681 (Herwijnen en Hellouw), (LDS Film 1743581). Nederduitsch-Hervormde Gemeente te Herwijnen No. 14
  7. "Netherlands, Gelderland Province, Church Records, 1405-1966," images, FamilySearch (Baptism Neelken Alertsen: 6 August 2019, Nederlands Hervormde > Herwijnen > Dopen 1655-1681 Trouwen 1607-1681 > image 6 of 148; Gelders Archives, Arnhem.
  8. Hoes, page 3
  9. "Netherlands, Gelderland Province, Church Records, 1405-1966," images, FamilySearch (witness Baptism Govert 13 April 1656 Herwijnen : 6 August 2019), Nederlands Hervormde > Herwijnen > Dopen 1655-1681 Trouwen 1607-1681 > image 7 of 148; Gelders Archives, Arnhem.




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Thank you, Whitney.

There are many Internet genealogies like that one. They can be valuable as resources, but unfortunately we can't rely on them because they are contributed by users (like us) and all too often it isn't possible to determine where the information originated.

That particular page contains extensive information from some colonial New York documents that could be used to expand (and greatly enrich) this man's biography. It appears that the original sources of most of this material are in Documents Relative to the Colonial History of the State of New-York, so they can be found via links on that page and cited in this profile.

This profile is open for editing by any pre-1700 certified member, and if you want to do more work in this area, please join the New Netherland Project!

posted by Ellen Smith
Hi Ellen: Thank you for helping me to understand naming. I knew Dutch Names did not have Middle Name. . .That why I called it the "middle section" instead NOT because it was a middle name. But now I understand your reason for not removing all the different spellings of the name. It is good working with all of you. And it totally makes sense what you are saying.
posted by Cathi (Clements) Gross
Cathi, you've made similar comments on several New Netherland profiles.

Yes, all variant names found for a person in contemporary records definitely should appear in the Biography section -- not as a list of variant names, but rather in descriptions of the individual records for the person.

But it is critically important that all of these names be documented in the Profile Data section because that is the only part of the profile that is searched by WikiTree Name Search. Before variant names were documented this way, we had far more duplicate profiles -- and more frustrated users who couldn't find their ancestors.

Also, please note that we are advised that Dutch people didn't use middle names, so hat data field should be empty. Patronymics are treated as part of the first name.

posted by Ellen Smith
Could the names at the top by simplified with just one name for the First and one name for the middle and one name for the surname and then under the Biography have a sections called =Other Spellings of the name=

First Name Spelling of "Albert" = Aldert, Alert, etc. Middle Section of the name "Heymans" = Heymensz, etc. Last Name or Surname "Roosa" = Rosa, Roose, etc. Just a suggestion to clean Name section up at the top

posted by Cathi (Clements) Gross
I've researched him a bit and I agree that they should be merged. My favorite fun fact about him is that in 1669 he received permission to open a brewhouse in Hurley (as if they needed another one.) -- Albert Schoch Pawling, Pawling Genealogy (Lewisburg, PA: 1905), p. 25; online image, HathiTrust (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005732169 : viewed 2 September 2018; citing Holdridge Ozro Collins, NYGBR, vol. XXXI, p. 163ff.
posted by Jim Moore
Roosa-512 and Roosa-86 appear to represent the same person because: Same person. This is the older immigrant ancestor of the Roosa family. His name was Aeldert (variants Aldert and Eldert), not Albert. I suppose the mispelling "Albert" needs to be listed as a Nickname because people will have found it in various derivative sources.
posted by Ellen Smith
Roosa-451 and Roosa-86 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate
posted by Kaitlyn Russ
Roosa-86 and Roosa-334 can be merged safely now , no conflicts thanks!

Roosa-334 merged into Roosa-86 !

posted by Bea (Timmerman) Wijma