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James M. Rose (abt. 1805 - 1836)

James M. Rose
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Died at about age 31 in The Alamo, San Antonio, Bexar Colony, Texasmap
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Biography

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James M. Rose was born 1805 in Ohio to parents, Dr. Robert Rose and Fanny Madison (Frances Taylor Madison Rose).[1] In 1822 Dr. Robert Henry and Frances Taylor Madison Rose moved their family from Orange County, Virginia to Alabama. In 1823, James's mother, Frances Taylor Madison Rose died. This lady was a sister to James Madison. After death of Frances, James's father, Dr. Robert Henry Rose moved from Alabama to Tipton County, Tennessee. [2] [3] [4]


James Madison Rose immigrated to Texas. He journeyed alone for awhile from Arkansas, from the Blue Ridge, Mississippi valley through Louisiana, to Nacodoches, where he met a friend and hunting companion, Davy Crockett [5][2] and the Tennessee Mounted Volunteers. and arrived January, 1836. [5] Walter Lord in his study of the Alamo mentions the arrival in January. [6][2]

Young Rose joined up with that company following Davy Crockett to the Alamo to assist in the fight for independence. His other new friends were John Purdy Reynolds, Micajah Autry, etc. [2] [6] Walter Lord in his study of the Alamo mentions James went to Texas to join with friend, David Crockett and hunting companion, and fight for independence. [2] Once at the Alamo, he served in the garrison. According to this reference, the Rose family lawyer and relative, John N Rose said James went to Texas to meet Crockett. Crockett left in November, 1835, so he probably did not hear the news of the Gonzales battle or siege of Bexar until he arrived in Texas. When they met, Crockett probably greeted Rose as a familiar face. [2]

Col Travis sent men out on trips to collect firewood, scoop water from a ditch or the group who rushed to La Villita to burn the nearby shacks in order to remove any access of the Mexican army from them. James M Rose joined others to rush out to La Villita, to burn some shacks near the Alamo (Despallier, James Rose, and Robert Brown). In this escapade, he escaped from being captured by a Mexican officer. The thatched roofs of huts burst into flame. [6]

A lady survivor named Susannah W Dickinson who seems to have observed everyone relayed details of Rose telling her husband about a narrow escape in the early days of the Alamo siege. Perhaps he was outside of the Alamo compound when the Mexican army arrived. She relayed the following description of sandy hair, blue grey eyes, and heavy set and shoulders with a rapid manner of speaking (most people would seem to speak rapidly compared to Texans.) [6][5]

James M Rose was killed in the Battle of the Alamo, March 6, 1836. The memorial is in San Fernando Cathedral in San Antonio, Texas. [7] [8]

NOTE: The Texas and Alamo sources give the DOB to be 1805. A brother was born 1802.. Yet a source of the Rose Family lists his DOB as 1815. FAG lists 1815, yet it is not considered a primary source. However currently I have recorded 1805 for the DOB.

Bexar Bounty 940A.
Colorado donation 769A.

Note2: James' family filed several documents to obtain compensation for his death. Bexar Bounty: 940 acres in portions of 248 and 548 acres. Colorado Donation, 769 Acres in Wharton co., Colorado Bounty Wharton and Colorado counties, 1st, Fannin county 151 Acres, (Fannin 3d class Bounty, Montgomery Bounty 711 Acres in Montgomery Co. [9] James Rose Land Grant

Sources

  1. http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde/editorialnote.xqy?note=all#n1
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Bill Groneman, "ROSE, JAMES M.," Handbook of Texas Online (http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/frocb), accessed June 9, 2015. Uploaded on June 15, 2010. Modified on July 24, 2014. Published by the Texas State Historical Association.
  3. The Madison Family
  4. tamu.edu Biography of James Rose by Rick Tepker, professor of law at the University of Oklahoma and a contributing writer to The Oklahoma Gazette
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 https://www.thealamo.org/remember/battle-and-revolution/defenders/james-m-rose
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 "A Time to Stand: The Epic of the Alamo," Walter Lord, Google book.
  7. "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK15-KN8Y : 16 December 2021), James Madison Rose, ; Burial, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, United States of America, San Fernando Cathedral; citing record ID 148882037, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
  8. "BillionGraves Index," index, FamilySearch (accessed 11 June 2015), James M Rose, ; citing, Billiongraves, (2012).
  9. GLO James Rose Bounty Donation

See also:

  • "A Time to Stand: The Epic of the Alamo," Walter Lord, Google book.
  • Christine Rose. "Ancestors and Descendents of the Brothers Rev. Robert Rose and Rev. Charles Rose" (San Jose, California 1985) pages 177 - 180.

Acknowledgements

Thanks to James McDonald for originally entering this profile of James M Rose. Biography: Mary Richardson 13:45, 13 June 2015 (EDT)





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Hi James,

There is an Error report (suggestions) on James Rose . Since James Rose is PPP due to being an Alamo Defender, it needed a project box (the Texas Project Box) as well as the account.

I long ago may have requested you to put Military and War on his profile. However now we just need the Texas Account as a manager ). Since you are the primary project manager, Will you help me and REMOVE Military and War in the Privacy settings). That will leave the Texas account, which you can make the manager.

Thanks very much for your help.

Mary Richardson, Project Coordinator

posted by Mary Richardson
Please ensure that DNA matching information for at least two testers is cited under Sources for each parent marked as "confirmed with DNA."

You can see what is required under the DNA Confirmation topic of WikiTree's Help pages.

Thank you.

John Kingman, Coordinator with the DNA Project

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posted by John Kingman
Very nice profile!!
posted by Paula J