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John Robert Douglas Ross (1830 - 1923)

John Robert Douglas Ross
Born in Auldririe, Clyne, Sutherland, Scotlandmap
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Husband of — married 1856 in Victoria, Australiamap
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Died at age 92 in Hawthorn, Victoria, Australiamap
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Biography

Amongst family papers, an original invoice dated 1854 For John Ross, blacksmith has come to light [4] . On July 25, he was charged 18 pounds, passage money from Liverpool to Melbourne. On August 9, fare for steamer to Granton, a port attached to Edinburgh, 8 shillings. On August 11, cartage for trunk to Liverpool. Other costs include cash at Cape Town on November 16. Total cost 20 pounds 11 and threepence. There is a note near the bottom saying December 20 to (?) Leath. The most likely ship listed among those arriving in Melbourne that year is the Herald of the Morning, which sailed from Liverpool on 21 August and arrived in Melbourne on December 19. It was a 3-masted square-rigged sailing ship of 1292 tons. Its passenger list includes passenger 227 John Ross aged 22. [5]

Birth

John Ross was entered on 5 January 1831 in the in the Register of Births for Clyne Parish as a resident of Auldryrie. His parents were John Ross and Catherine Sutherland.[1] His family celebrated his birthday on Christmas Day.

Census

1841 With sister Christian in West Clyne
1851 Berriedale, Latheron, Caithness age 20, with sister Marion, blacksmith's apprentice

Note

  • see Ancestry tree owned by seaforth33
  • emigrated to Australia
  • see comment by Helen Harmer on his father's page

Marriage

Marriage records state that John Ross married Ann McBeath in John Knox Church, Swanson St, Melbourne Victoria on 16th October 1856. Information about John: he was born in Brora, Scotland (a small village 6 miles NE of Golspie) in the Parish of Clyne. He gave his age as 26. At the time, his occupation was blacksmith. Usual address for John: 87 Little Lonsdale St West. Present address: 113 Little Lonsdale St. Parents: John, and Catherine Sutherland. John (senior) was a labourer Usual address for Ann: 30 Swanson St. Present address: Randwick Cottage, Collingwood. Ann gave her age as 23 and she was born in Golspie. Occupation: general servant. Ann signed with a cross. Her parents; Robert, and Christina McDonald. Robert was a shepherd. Witnesses: Alexander MacDonald and John McBeath [3] Ann died on 7th October, 1900. At the age of 70, John married Louise Fitzpatrick, who was deceased at the time of John's death. [2]

Occupation

Blacksmith Death Certificate: Victoria 3069/1827 At the time of his death, was living in Riversdale Rd, City of Hawthorn, County of Bourke. He was aged 90. Cause of death: Syncope, Bronchitis and Senility. He was buried in the Castlemaine Cemetery (Funeral Director: Alf J. Padbury). It notes that he was born in Ross-shire, Scotland and had lived in Victoria for 68 years. [2] His children were listed as Katherine (deceased), Robert (deceased), John Robert (58), Donald (deceased) and Christina Ann (53). No issue from second marriage.

Sources

  1. John Ross birth, 5 January 1831, parents John Ross and Catherine Sutherland, residence Auldryrie, Clyne Parish, Sutherland, Scotland, United Kingdom, Old Parish Registers, Births 045/ 20 43, page 43 for 153, digital image of hand written parish record, National Records of Scotland, https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, accessed 26 April 2021.
  • Australia Marriage Index, Ancestry
  • Letters written by his brother David

[2] Victorian Death Certificate 3069/1827 (District of Hawthorn) [3] Victorian Marriage Record 224/3923 [4] Original invoice for journey from Liverpool to Melbourne dated 1854 [5] https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/3AF6D5EF-F96C-11E9-AE98-9DD57D8DEA70?image=223 : unassisted passenger lists





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Family tradition celebrated John Robert Douglas Ross’s birthday on Christmas Day although the record of his birth is dated January 5th 1831– probably the date of his baptism. In August 1854, he left Golspie by steamer to Edinburgh, then travelled to Liverpool 1 where he caught the ship “Herald of the Morning” to Melbourne. He arrived on the 19th of December 1854.

Meanwhile, his sister Catherine married William Barron on the 25th of August 1854 and the newly-weds followed. They left Liverpool on the “Derry Castle” on the 1st of October 1854. Sadly, on the 1st of November, Catherine died of cholera on board. The ship continued to Melbourne, arriving on the 15th of January 1855. In the meantime, John had written to his family, informing them of his safe arrival. He kept their letter back to him. It is dated (Sunday) 15th April 1855 and states, in part, “We have received your highly welcomed letter on Monday last and we were very glad to hear from you and more especially that you were in good health and working” … “your mother was very dull since you and Catherine left this place, but she is now more reconciled to her lot, and she was very happy when she received your letter, she now longs to hear from Catherine – she left England on the second day of October on board the Derry Castle bound for Portland Bay and we did not get a letter from her since the ship left Birkenhead, but we will tell you when we hear from her, but it is likely that you will see her yourself before we hear from her.” 2 SOOO sad, given that she had already been dead for 5 months! 1 Original receipt for the journey 2 Original letter, signed off by “W.B.”

posted by Helen (Humfrey) Harmer

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