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George Ross (abt. 1629 - 1705)

George Ross
Born about in Scotlandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 7 Dec 1658 in New Haven, New Haven, Connecticutmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 76 in Elizabethtown, Essex, New Jerseymap
Profile last modified | Created 15 Sep 2012
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Disputed Parentage There is no documentation of any kind that George Ross is the son of Andrew of Balblair and Mary Fraser. These have been detached as parents and should not be reattached without primary source documentation and discussion with profile managers. There is only one known son of Andrew of Balblair who is David.

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Biography

This profile is part of the Ross Name Study.

GEORGE ROSS was born about 1629, possibly in Scotland, as he gave his age as 35 in 1664. Little is known of his early life. Undocumented family tradition is that he was a Scots soldier captured by Cromwell's forces at either the Battle of Dunbar in 1650, or the Battle of Worcester in 1651, and deported to the American Colonies. There were at least two boatloads of prisoners sent to New England. His name is not among the legible names on the passenger list of the ship John and Sarah coming in November 1651, although there were nine other Rosses aboard. The ship Unity came earlier in 1650, but there is no record of the 150 Scots aboard. (See Research Notes below)

It is further theorized that he worked with the other Scots soldiers at the Saugus Iron Works, under the supervision of Jonathan Wintrop jr, and thus followed Winthrop to New Haven, Connecticut when he became the Governor there.[citation needed] Alternatively, the Genealogical and Memorial History of the State of New Jersey states that he was a carpenter by trade and arrived New Haven prior to 1658 when he was made a freeman and then corroborates a move to Elizabethtown in about 1670.[1]

At New Haven he was married "by Ye Governor" 7 Dec 1658[2][3][4] to Constance Little and there is record there of the births of four of his children; John, Daniel, Elizabeth and Hannah. He supposedly joined the church 1655/56. He purchased land from Mrs. Goodyear I658/9. Jn 1662 he was chosen fence viewer and in 1667 he was chosen corporal of the Trayne Band. He was by occupation a carpenter.

George and Constance went to Elizabethtown, New Jersey by 1670, where they were among the earliest settlers. In 1676 as a Select Men he sat on the Monthly Court in Elizabeth town for what would be small claims cases under 40 shillings.[5] In 1682/3 he was one of the six Essex County Tax Assessors. On 1-1-1703 he deeded 1/3rd of his 2nd lot right in Elizabethtown to the widow and children of his deceased son John. This may well indicate 3 sons (heirs). There is no record of his death, will or burial.

The Founders and Patriots of America Index gives his death as 1702 but without documentation and this would appear to be contradicted by a 1703 deed.[6]

Arrival

Arrival; Date: 1651-1652; Place: Boston, Massachusetts[7] NOTE: See citation below. It is not documented that this is the same George Ross.

Residence

1685 Elizabethtown, Essex County, NJ[8]
1692 Elizabethtown, New Jersey[9]

DNA Evidence

Several male descendants of George Ross have tested & are participants in the Ross Surname Project at FamilyTreeDNA.

These descendants of George Ross are part of a large group of matches that includes descendants of Isaac Ross & Israel Ezra Ross of New Jersey and Kinchen Ross and James Ross of Martin County, North Carolina.

Other matches include descendants of Dugald Mathieson of Lochalsh.

There is an MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) chart available for the project that shows the estimated number of generations between each of the participants in the project.

This group is a branch of Haplogroup R-M420 or R1a. They came to the Highlands through Scandanavia, not Normandy.

There is no genetic evidence that this group of Rosses is descended from the Rosses of Balblair or the original Earls of Ross. No Participants in the Ross Project at FamilyTreeDNA have been confirmed as descendants of that family.

Research Notes

The Scottish Prisoners of War Society Promoting knowledge of the Scottish prisoners from the Battles of Dunbar (1650) and Worcester (1651):

IMPORTANT UPDATE! (July 2018) According to Christopher Gerrard, Pam Graves, Andrew Millard, Richard Annis, and Anwen Caffell in Lost Lives, New Voices: Unlocking the Stories of the Scottish Soldiers at the Battle of Dunbar 1650, (England: Oxbow Books, 2018), on page 254, George is categorized as:

Possible [that he is a Dunbar prisoner transported on the Unity] Ross, George. Residences: New Haven CT, Elizabeth NJ. Appears: 1658. B.c.1629. [DR; SPOWS] For explanations of the category, abbreviations and references see List of Dunbar prisoners from Lost Lives, New Voices.[10]

George Ross is the most senior ancestor listed in the Family Tree YDNA Ross Surname project for individuals within the same R1a haplogroup. Most of the members of this group are not descendants of George Ross, but share the same the surname and can trace their descendants to the Scottish Highlands. The most recent common ancestor is circa 1300 and ultimately of Norse Origin. More detailed YDNA testing is in progress.

These men are related to, but not descended from the Loch Alsh Matheson's or another group of R1a men from the Isle of Man.

Sources

  1. Lee, Francis Basley, compiler, Genealogical and Memorial History of the State of New Jersey, III:1089, New York, Lewis, 1919
  2. Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004. p 638. Note that Torrey does not identify his source. See below.
  3. Torrey, Clarence A., New England Marriages prior to 1700 (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society: 2011), Complete with sources, 2:1303; AmericanAncestors.org; Key to sources.
  4. "Geo: Rawse & Constance little were married by ye Gouvernor, December 7, 1658"; Vital Records of New Haven, 1649-1850 (Hartford: The Connecticut society of the Order of the founders and patriots of America, 1917), 1:16; Archive.org.
  5. Documents Relating to the Colonial History of NJ, Vol XXII, Press Printing & Pub Co, Patterson, 1899, East Jersey Deeds, Liber No. 3, p 39
  6. National Society of Daughters of Founders and Patriots, The Founders and Patriots of America Index, Reprint Genealogical Pub Co, Baltimore, 1989, p 189
  7. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc APID: 1,7486::0 NOTE: this reference is WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981, which lists an arrival in Boston of a George Ross in 1651-1652. It is not documented that this is the same George Ross.
  8. Source: #S-479830313 APID: 1,3562::18383758
  9. Dobson, David, The Original Scots Colonists of America: Supplement 1607-1707, Genealogical Pub Co, Baltimore, 1998, p 162, citing EJ Deeds, Liner B, fo.363, Resident Elizabethtown, NJ 23 Dec 1692.
  10. Christopher Gerrard, Pam Graves, Andrew Millard, Richard Annis, and Anwen Caffell in Lost Lives, New Voices: Unlocking the Stories of the Scottish Soldiers at the Battle of Dunbar 1650, (England: Oxbow Books, 2018), on page 254





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Last summer, I came across a church record (Old Parish Registers Births #685-2 St. Cuthbert's, page 16 of 280) on the Scotland's People website. This record states that a George Ross was born to John Ross and Agnes Thomsoun on 25/08/1629. Every other path I have gone down regarding George Ross has been a dead end. This bit of information gave me some hope that I might be able to continue building my tree. Maybe this is another George Ross, but the year works out. Any others ever seen this?

Here is a link to the Scotland's People website: https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/196687274065af29f477734

posted by Matthew McGarvey
Matthew, oddly that link says it has already expired. It's an intriguing record (I vaguely recall something about a St Cuthbert's record) but there would need to be something else that ties the man in the colony to that birth record. I've had a similar dead end experience. I have never found a citation for the Saugus irons works/Winthrop/New Haven comment found on the profile which is at direct odds with the New Jersey records. Have you found an origin for the Saugus/Winthrop/New Haven information?
posted by T Stanton
To repeat a comment below: "Absent any documentation of George Ross' origins should there be any Clan designation on this profile? He is only possibly from Scotland." Absent primary source documentation, the Scottish Clan sticker should not appear on the profile. ~ T Stanton, Scottish Clans Protocol Team
posted by T Stanton
Yes; it's very clear from YDNA testing that numerous other men with the Ross surname can be traced to the Scottish Highlands.
posted by Andrew Ross
George was the first son of David chief of clan Ross. The last of the Ó'Beolan direct line of the Earls of Ross. His mother is unown. Mary is Davids 2nd wife not George's Mother. George's baptism records are in Edinburgh. David ii George's younger step brother. took the chieftainship. David i was was captured in 1651 and died in the tower of London. George was captured the year before at Dunbar. He and 150 Spows. Were sold for 5 pounds each to a English ship owner of the Unity. He transported them to Boston harbour and resold for 20 pounds each. George was sold to Winthrop the younger. George remained with Winthrop for eight years and was granted free man by him in New Hampshire where Winthrop was the governor. George married Constance little by said Governor. They moved to land granted to him in Elizabeth New Jersey. A lot of confusion is do to the name changes from Helgisson. Bjolan to Ó'Beolan, to Ross. In the 14th century. In the 13th century, Fearchar Mac en t sagart. Was of the Ó'Beolan's, He chose his name which meant Son of the priest. As they the Ó'Beolan's were the Lay Abbot's of Applecross established by St Mauleruba. From Norse, Helgi Bjolan. His son referred to as King Ó'Bjolan in the Norse sagas, married Katelan or Cathleen. Daughter of the Viking Duke Normandy. Rollo. 9 century. Fearchar was the second Earl of Ross. Villeam Ó,Beolan's son of Hugh. His mother was Maude Bruce and the nephew of Robert De Bruce. Villeam had a ligament clame to the thrown. He died young with no aire. His wife Eufiema became countess of Ross. Married a Lesslie he took the name Ross. Hugh a cousin to William was granted the First liard of Balnagown .
posted by William Ó'Beolan
edited by William Ó'Beolan
William, can you provide some source information for th detailed claims you made? WikiTree's policy is to provide solid source material when connections are made to other family members. On these earlier shared ancestors we're generally looking for quality sources such a primary records and documents, recently published and peer-reviewed journal articles, published genealogies which supply original source documentation.

Welcome to Wikitree!

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I know it's been almost 3 years but if you're still using this site I would love to know where you heard all that, since you seem very knowledgeable about the reverend.
posted by Hank Ross
A large group of men with the surname Ross are matched to this profile, thru the Family Tree Ross YDNA project. This group is closely related to but not a descendant of Murchadh Buidhe, Chief of Clan Matheson in the 1500's in Lochalsh, Scotland.
posted by Andrew Ross
edited by Andrew Ross
3/21/19: Have heard nothing from anyone about my comments on George Ross' parentage. If anyone who has the power to remove/add persons is interested, I'll be glad to send a jpg of the notification document I received from Wiki Tree. I will most likely be leaving Wiki Tree if I can't resolve this issue. Remember, I know this involves a lot of people, but remember, I've lost several hundred years of the Ross line, plus those people listed below what was the Ross line are strangers to my tree.
posted by [Living Ross]
Caryl Ross Sanders again: I am in possession of a document from WIKI Tree on Ross 14183. The George in question is listed on generation 11 that states George is the son of Andrew of Balblair Ross and marked confidence. If this was a mistake, then so be it. If the info you have is correct, then please provide me with George's parents' names. This is very important to me personally. The document I mentioned from WIKI Tree also goes further down to my 23rd g grandfather, Fearchar MacTaggart. What am I to believe?
posted by [Living Ross]
I am the owner of this Ross family tree and am shocked that his parentage has been disputed without contacting me first. If this is true, then this means my Ross lineage end with George. Perhaps I should provide my Ancestry DNA. Regardless, I am very disappointed with this action taken and doesn't agree with my tree on Ancestry.com. Caryl Ross Sanders
posted by [Living Ross]
I happened to come across this biography by accident, and I think it is great, but can I suggest that dates be written in full.

Particularly 12-7-1658 could be interpreted as 12 July or 7 December, depending on who is reading this. The genealogical standard is to write dates with two numerals for day, month alphabetically, in full or standard abbreviation and then four numerals for year in that order.

Thank you.

posted by John Atkinson
Absent any documentation of George Ross' origins should there be any Clan designation on this profile? He is only possibly from Scotland. The erroneous wife (came from merge) and undocumented parents are now detached. Does one of the PMs want to undertake the post-merge clean-up? I can do it if no takers.
posted by T Stanton
Ross-6267 and George Ross appear to represent the same person because: I removed the Rejected Match on this. They are certainly the same George Ross. Ross-6267 has an erroneous wife attached (details in Comment on profile) and the mother is also undocumented--see parentage discussion on Ross-2792 as the parents are Unknown. The mother issue needs resolution before a merge. The wife issue can be dealt with after. Please do not reject the merge. If agreement cannot be made to the necessary corrections, please set as an Unmerged Match instead of rejecting the merge.
posted by T Stanton
The wife attached here is a misinterpretation of whatever is being cited in Torry. This is a duplicate profile. See George Ross which is the earlier profile. That profile has the correct wife attached for which Torry's detailed citations include: New Haven VR 16; New Haven Gen. Mag. 1106, 1521; Cory (1914) 76-7; Dawes-Gates 2:531.

The mother attached here is also undocumented. See George Ross for the latest research and discussion of his unknown parentage.

posted by T Stanton
Propose that the current parents be detached. They are marked Uncertain yet one WT member continues to mark them confident despite the fact Andrew had only one son, David. There is not any documentation that even suggests a familial relationship with Andrew of Balblair (except on undocumented internet genealogy sites).
posted by T Stanton
I show George Ross, 1629 father as David Ross, 1582. I don't have any middle names for my Ross's. David's mother was Mary daughter of Alexander Earl of Sutherland.

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