Douglas Ross
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Douglas Ross

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Douglas L. Ross
Born 1940s.
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Biography

I was born in Centertown, Ohio County, Kentucky in 1946 at the home of my Grandmother Mary (Casebier) Ross. My father had just returned from military service in the Navy in WWII and soon moved us to Lexington, Ky where he attended the University of Kentucky on the GI bill and became an Electrical Engineer. He joined RCA service company after graduation and spent most of his life working on building the new DEW (Defense Early Warning) Radar systems installations all over the USA and the World. As a consequence of his work we lived in about 10 different places while I was growing up. I attended Baylor University from 1964-1968 and got a BBA degree in Accounting (but never practiced that profession). I married Joy Hollingsworth, who was also attending Baylor at the time. Joy and I have three sons and now nine grandchildren.

You can read about my career on Linkedin user name = dross46

I started The Ross Surname Project, please join me and help us all learn more about our Ross Ancestors.

I am co-admin of the Ross Surname DNA Study Group on Facebook

I am co-admin of the Ross Ancestor Project on GEDmatch.

My Current To-Do-List on Wikitree IS HERE

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  • Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing by FTDNA. Douglas Ross and Dwight Ross match 110 of 111 STR markers and are both confirmed by FTDNA SNP testing to be in the R-BY11530 Haplogroup, thereby confirming their direct paternal line back to their known MRCA Wallace C Ross.
  • To date, 5 living, direct, male descendants of Joseph Harve Ross, Sr. (b.~1760 - d.~1832) have tested positive for R-BY11530 & are participants in the Ross Surname Project at FamilyTreeDNA. These known descendants of Joseph Harve Ross, Sr (including me) are part of a large group of matches in the FTDNA Ross group that also includes descendants of Hugh Rose 8th of Kilravock. They also seem closely matched to descendants of John Ross of Guilford County North Carolina and Rosses known to have emigrated to America from County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. This FTDNA Ross group is a descendant branch of Haplogroup R-M269 or R1b which the archeological DNA evidence for them shows that they came from Normandy (likely about 1066 with William) to the south of England & then to northern Ireland before finally settling in the Highlands of Scotland.

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It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Douglas or other carriers of his ancestors' Y-chromosome or mitochondrial DNA. Y-chromosome DNA test-takers in his direct paternal line on WikiTree:
  • Douglas Ross: Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 111 markers, haplogroup R-BY11530, FTDNA kit #104294, MitoYDNA ID T11424 [compare] + Y-Chromosome Test 838 markers, haplogroup R-BY11530
  • Dwight Ross Find Relationship : Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 111 markers, haplogroup R-BY11530, FTDNA kit #513671
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Greetings, Douglas-

Hoping this finds you well. I am continuing to bang away at finding our Eleanor Wells Dorsey's personal history in Scotland. I have seen many genealogical entries in the last 20 years that she was born in Maryland to a Caleb Dorsey and wife, which I have my doubts about. According to an account written by an "in-law", John Brouse, in 1855, she was an orphan from Scotland. Do you - or anyone reading this - happen to have an further information about her personal history?

The following is what I have:

"Also spelled Elinor. Also listed as Eleanor Wells Dorsey. Birth year listed as about 1735 and about 1742. Marriage date also given as 1753. She is believed to have been an orphan from Scotland and came to the US with some Scottish relatives or neighbors.

"Posted by Bea TrItch: I am looking for any information about Eleanor Dorsey, b abt 1742 in Scotland, and any of her family. According to family researchers and tradition (undocumented to my knowledge) her father, mother, brothers and sisters all died before she was ten years old, leaving her in the care of an uncle, her father's brother. At 13 years of age she came to America with a neighbor family and settled in Maryland. In later years it was learned that property in Scotland and another estate had been left to her eldest son, but none of the family had enterprise of means in those days to go after it. She was of Scotch-Presbyterian stock. "Although I do not know about the Duvall book, I have some of the same information, which I recently received, in xerox form. It is called the FENNER RECORD as is described as: "Taken from a record written Dec. 26, 1855, by John A. Brouse, a great uncle of Mrs. Ora Wilkins Lesh (Mrs. Chas. P. Lesh, and copied by her for Mrs. Hallie Fenner Durnell, and recopied by Mrs. F. W. Farrar - 912 Electric Ave., Salem, Oregon." It states that "Stephen Fenner was born in Germany, about 1722. He came to this country at an early date, and joined the American, or Revolutionary army. In 1752 he married Miss Eleanor Dorsey, and they lived many years together and raised a large family. Lived at Broad Top,Pa. He lived to see all his family married. He was industrious, and frugal, and provided well for his large family. His will was probated in January 1801 in Huntingdon Co., Pa so he must have died late in 1800." There then follows a transcription of Stephen Fenner's will. The Mrs. Lesh mentioned above has added items to this record. I quote: "Mrs. Lesh found in Richmond, Va., at the land office, where Stephen Fenner of Maryland had bought 383 acres near Berkley Springs in 1779--Bk. R, page 340." There are mentions of Eleanor Dorsey being born in Scotland in 1735, and that her father, mother, brothers and sisters all died before she was ten years old, leaving her to the care of an uncle, her father's brother. "They abused her so much that at 13 years of age she came to America with a neighbor's family." She died March 9, 1833 at Hillsboro, Highland Co., OH. "

She married Stephen Fenner before 1765 (abt 1763). At the time of the birth of their first child they were living in Prince George Parish, Prince George, MD. The family moved to Huntingdon Co PA (Stephen Fenner's Will proved 8 Jan 1800) and on to Highland County. OH by abt 1810. Eleanor Dorsey Fenner died 9 Mar 1833."

posted by Linda Engbrenghof
edited by Linda Engbrenghof
Hello Linda:

I can't help you with your question about Dorsey-1546 in Wikitree. This is the first I have heard of your theory that Eleanor Wells (Dorsey) Fenner might have been a Scottish orphan.

I assume you directed this question to me because of the DNA connection in Wikitree between Eleanor and ME via my maternal family line. I think this DNA connection might be an error. Here’s why.

The DNA connection happened automatically in Wikitree when someone (not me) connected my Frances Dorsey (the one who married Joshua Chapman) in Kentucky to the Dorsey family of Maryland that you are questioning for Eleanor.

Wikitree has ME linked to Eleanor Wells Dorsey supposedly via her 1st cousin 2x removed our Frances Dorsey.

My pedigree looks like this: 0. Edward Dorsey, Sr was the Dorsey immigrant (b.~1619 Hertfordshire, England - d.<1659 MD), and his wife Ann (Unknown). 1. Edward Dorsey, Jr (b.~1639 VA - d.1706 MD) & Sarah Wyatt 2. Nicholas Dorsey, Sr (b.1690 MD - d.1717 MD) & Francis Hughes 3. Col. Nicholas Dorsey, Jr (b.1712 MD - d.1779 MD) & wife Sarah Griffith 4. Frances Dorsey (b.1756 MD-d.1811 Ohio Co KY) & Joshua Chapman 5. Altha Chapman (b.1781 MD - d.1847 Ohio Co. KY) & Benjamin Benton 6. Marinda Benton (b.1801 MD-d.1872 McClain Co KY) & Wilson Whittaker 7. Altha Whittaker (b.1828 KY - d.1898 KY) & Manley Tichenor 8. Lydia Jane Tichenor (b.1850 KY - d.1934 KY) & James Atherton 9. Bessie Atherton (b. 1884 KY - d.1958 KY) & Ross Morton 10. Nancy Morton (b.1924 KY - d.2021 GA) & Wallace Ross 11. Douglas Ross (ME) & Dwight Ross

Eleanor Wells Dorsey's supposed pedigree looks like this: 0. Edward Dorsey, Sr was the Dorsey immigrant (b.~1619 Hertfordshire, England - d.<1659 MD), and his wife Ann (Unknown). 1. Edward Dorsey, Jr (b.~1639 VA - d.1706 MD) & Sarah Wyatt 2. Joshua Edward Dorsey (b.1686 MD-d.1747 MD) & Ann Ridgley 3. Elizabeth Dorsey (b.1719 MD - d.1803 MD) & John Ely Dorsey (son of Caleb) - [Eleanor’s parents were 1st cousins 1x removed] 4. Eleanor Wells (Dorsey) Fenner (b.1743 MD-d.1833 Ohio) & Stephen Fenner. [Eleanor's maternal grandfather (Joshua Edward Dorsey) and MY supposed 8-x great-grandfather (Nicholas Dorsey, Sr) were brothers.

0. Edward Dorsey, Sr 1. John Dorsey (b.1647 MD - d.1715 MD) & Pleasance Wainwright 2. Caleb Dorsey (b.1683 MD - d.1742 MD) & Elinor Warfield 3. John Ely Dorsey (b.1708 MD - d.1765 MD) & Elizabeth Dorsey [John & Elizabeth were 1st cousins 1x removed]

Here’s what I can say about all this: 1. I am confident that my maternal family line (above) descends from a Frances Dorsey & Joshua Chapman. They are both well-documented persons that ended up in Kentucky near my family home.

2. Whoever connected my Frances Dorsey to the Maryland Dorseys provided no real evidence that Frances was a descendant of that Maryland family. So linking my DNA to all the Dorsey’s of Maryland is questionable and misleading.

3. I don’t know anything about my Frances Dorsey’s family history either. And, there were many alternative Dorsey family lines in Kentucky. In the 1810 census, there were 18 Dorsey households in Kentucky. Our Frances Dorsey could have come from any of them but I have no evidence to prove any connection.

4. I did a bit of research to answer your question. I discovered a family history book for the Dorsey family of Maryland called: “The Dorsey Family; Descendants of Edward Darcy-Dorsey of Virginia and Maryland For Five Generations and Allied Families” by Maxwell J. Dorsey and Jean Muir Dorsey, Urbana, Illinois; Nannie Ball Nimmo, Baltimore Maryland, Copyright 1947. [assume you have seen this book?]

5. I searched this book for information about Frances Dorsey, the daughter of Col. Nicholas Dorsey (the one I am linked to via DNA in Wikitree) and I found the following:

5.1 The book does not mention any marriage of a Frances Dorsey to a Joshua Chapman. We know that marriage occurred ~1780 (probably in MD where Joshua Chapman was from) because of the birth date of Frances & Joshua’s first child (our ancestor) Altha Chapman b.1781. 5.2 Instead, the book mentions the marriage of a Frances Dorsey in this family to Ely Warfield in 1792. But the reference to this Frances Dorsey’s marriage looks like it could be an error. A Maryland marriage record has Ely Warfield marrying Frances Chapman (not Frances Dorsey.)

6.0 Bottom line, it doesn’t look like my Frances Dorsey was from these Maryland Dorseys. So I need to disconnect my Frances Dorsey from the Maryland Dorsey's in Wikitree to break my DNA connection with them, until proven otherwise.

posted by Douglas Ross
Hi Douglas,

The United Kingdom Project has not been active since 2018 and we are now completely closing it down. We are removing all UK project badges. If you still have an interest in the UK and have not already joined another project, then you will need to join the England, Ireland, Scotland or Wales Project by answering one or more of their G2G posts. If your interest is in the British Isles and British Crown Dependencies and Overseas Territories, then please contact me directly.

Regards Joan

Hi Douglas! I haven't heard back regarding the Scotland Project check-in. I hope you are well and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

~ Amy

posted by Amy (Crawford) Gilpin
Hello

It’s time for a Project check-in!

Scotland Project Leaders check in with you at least once a year to see how you are doing. With the changes happening around the world, we understand that life is hectic right now.

What are you planning to work on for the Scotland Project this year? Are you happy with the team(s) you part of, or would you like to make some changes?

This time round, we’re also looking for feedback on the use of Google Group and Discord. Do you use one or both of these? If you don’t use either of them, what is the best way to ensure you receive Project communications? If you would like to join us on Google Group or Discord, let us know in your response.

posted by Amy (Crawford) Gilpin
Twisted_Thistles.jpg

We'd love to have you join the Twisted Thistles in the upcoming Connect-a-thon the weekend of July 17 - July 20. If you'd like to join us and help to develop our ever-expanding Scottish tree, please register on the G2G post here and be sure to mention you'd like to be on the Twisted Thistles team for Scotland.

We also have our team Chat page posted here.

Hope to see you there!
Bobbie & Sarah
Twisted Thistles Co-captains
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Hello Douglas,

My name is Sarah and I’m the Project Coordinator for the Scotland Project. As you may have heard, we have merged the Scottish Clans project into the Scotland Project. I am contacting you today to find out if you are interested in continuing with us under this new format. If you would like to go forward on the Scottish Clans Team, please reply and let me know which clans you have been working on or would like to work on. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best Regards,

Sarah Mason, Scotland PC

posted by Sarah Mason
Dear Sarah, I would like to continue in the Scotland Project although I'm not entirely sure I know what the Scotland Project is trying to accomplish? I am a Ross almost certainly of Scottish descent but I have DNA connections to several Clans Ross, Rose, O'Neill. Several of us that have done Big-Y700 testing are trying to use our DNA results to better understand our Clan relationships. I'm particularly interested in Clan Ross or Kilravock and Clan Ross of Balnagown. (I am also the Ross who set up the Ross Name Study page on Wikitree)
posted by Douglas Ross
Hi ,

On behalf of the Connectors Project Leaders, we are doing a six-month check-in with members. Please let us know if you are still active. If you are active, please let us know in which ways you are currently contributing to the project.

All of us at WikiTree would like to thank you for your contributions and hope that you are enjoying exploring your roots.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Michelle ~ Volunteer Coordinator

Hi Douglas,

We realise the time has come to dissolve the UK Project in favour of the individual country projects of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.

We are checking in with all UK badge holders to find out which country project(s) you would like to be in so you can collaborate with other members, have the opportunity to select which team(s) you would like to join, and so we can ensure you have all the correct badges.

Please respond by PM to let us know which country project(s) you would like to be in. Please don’t assume we know. We are effectively starting from scratch to make sure no one falls through the cracks.

Once you have done this, the Coordinator for Membership in the relevant country project(s) will be in touch to help get you situated.

Many thanks,

Susie

posted by Susie MacLeod
Mayflower Project Member.

I see your profile doesn’t include a mayflower G2G Tag. See “Followed Tags” above. You should have the tag - mayflower -so you can follow pertinent Mayflower activities on G2G. When you add the tag, please include the names of passengers in whom you are interested. Thank you

Anne B. Leader Mayflower Project.

posted by Anne B
Hello and welcome to the William Penn and Early Pennsylvania Settlers Project. At the project home page you can find useful information about the project:

William Penn and Early Pennsylvania Settlers

You can add the following category to your profile biography to mark your membership in the project:

[[Category:William Penn and Early Pennsylvania Settlers Project Members]]

Additionally, you can add yourself to our members' list with your project-related interests. William Penn and Early Pennsylvania Settlers Members

Please let us know if you have any questions!

SJ - Penn Project Coordinator

posted by SJ Baty
Douglas, Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz!

Pre-1700 ancestors are shared by many descendants, thus coordinating with others is essential.

Thank you for joining Pennsylvania project, the Mayflower Project, United_Kingdom Project and Scottish_Clans Project. Please refer to the new recommended sources for Pre-1700’s.Cite Reliable sources

For questions, just ask!

Mary ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

PS If links do not work in a WikiTree email, check on your profile page for this message.

posted by Mary Richardson
Hi Douglas

I’m the new Project Coordinator for the England Project. I am contacting you, as there have been some recent changes to the project which we are keen to bring to your attention. Please look at the England Project page for more information on the changes and the ways members are able to actively contribute moving forward. Once you have considered how you would like to participate, please contact either myself or Susie to let us know. We can then list your involvement, help you join the Google group forum for England, and give you any other help you may need to get going. If we don’t hear back from you we’ll assume you do not wish to be a part of the England Project for the time being. We really hope you will join the team! Gillian

posted by Gillian Thomas
11th cousins three times removed.
posted by Eileen Bradley
Hi Douglas and thanks for your post on G2G.

I've added the United Kingdom Project and Scottish Clans Project badges to your profile. If you click on each badge it will take you to the full list of our wonderful members. Click on United Kingdom Project will take you the first page of the project. Scroll down to Member Interests. I've added your good self. Same with the England Project and Scottish Clans Project.

Thanks again for joining enjoy and good luck with your research

Maria

posted by Maria Maxwell
We're starting up a one name study for Hollingsworth! Join us over at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Hollingsworth_Name_Study for some good old fashioned genealogical collaboration.