Joseph Rowe Sr. (abt. 1720 - abt. 1775)

Born about 1720 in Tipperary, County Tipperary, Ireland

Descendants

Died about 1775 at about age 55 in Fairfield, South Carolina

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Biography

Joseph Rowe, Sr.

Birth: 1720 Tipperary, Ireland

Death: 1792

Joseph Rowe SR did not die at sea in 1775, the same year his son Joseph was born. This is evidently an "old family tale" that the people who deposited the data at the Giles Co Historical Society never bothered to actually research out to prove or disprove. He died in Fairfield Co SC about the year 1792, when court records there show his wife Jane as a recent widow selling some of the estate. (Horses, I believe if my memory serves without looking up the records in my files). His 2 sons James and David were already adults there and got their share of the original 300 acre land grant that their father had held. Joseph, the youngest son, received his 100 acres when he came of age but sold it back to one of his brothers, again I am going by memory, when he decided to go to Tennessee. By Regina Roper November 07, 2005 at 05:20:15

Spouse and Children:

Jane Page

Joseph Rowe

David Rowe

James Rowe

Joseph Rowe, Jr.

Notes

By Regina RoperNovember 07, 2005 at 05:20:15

I realize that this is an old message and I think you and I may have even exchanged data before, but I just wanted to correct some of the data that you have in your post that has been proven incorrect over the years.

Mary Carden's middle name was ASA, not ANN.

Joseph Rowe SR did not die at sea in 1775, the same year his son Joseph was born. This is evidently an "old family tale" that the people who depositied the data at the Giles Co Historical Society never bothered to actually research out to prove or disprove. He died in Fairfield Co SC about the year 1792, when court records there show his wife Jane as a recent widow selling some of the estate. (Horses, I believe if my memory serves without looking up the records in my files). His 2 sons James and David were already adults there and got their share of the original 300 acre land grant that their father had held. Joseph, the youngest son, received his 100 acres when he came of age but sold it back to one of his brothers, again I am going by memory, when he decided to go to Tennessee.

Yes, I do know how the Cardens came to Tennessee.

Tipperary, in the Irish Republic, lies in Tipperary County in South Central Ireland in the region known as the Lower Shannon. King's County no longer exists, but at the time that King George III was passing out land grants to the Protestants, the grants were apparently processed in King's County.. The Page family (if Jane was indeed a Page) was stated by some Giles Co researchers to have come from County Tyrone, which is in Northern Ireland a long way from Tipperary. This just doesn't seem feasible given the distance and travel hardship that would have been faced by Jane and Joseph trying to meet and get together. It is more feasible that they both came from the same place. In the present day, Ireland is divided with the Protestants in Northern Ireland and the Catholics in the Republic. However, in Georgian Ireland in the 1700's when Joseph and Jane were there, Protestants owned 75% of all the land in Ireland, with only tiny coastal areas in the Northeast coastal corner, Western Coast and Eastern Coast being populated by Catholics. Emancipation of the Catholics did not even start until about 1793, long after Joseph and Jane Rowe had emigrated to the US in 1768. The land grant that Joseph Rowe obtained was given only to Protestants.

Londonderry is not a place in Fairfield Co SC. Londonderry is a place in Northern Ireland. The racial identity of the Cardens has been traced back to England, not Ireland, with the original ancestor believed to be John Carden who came from England on the Speedwell in about 1635 to Old Rappahannock CO VA, almost 135 years before Joseph and Jane Rowe came over from Ireland. John's son Robert married Elizabeth Moss; the Moss family is traced back to Middlesex Co ENgland. The information that was gathered and depositied as "fact" in the Giles Co Historical Society was piecemealed together largely from a scan of the LDS Ancestral Files and not from any real research.

I spent a very long time researching the Rowes and related families and wish that the misconceptions on file at the Giles OCunty Historical Society could be put to rest once and for all.

Sources

• Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900. 1764.127; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1.
• https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195764356/joseph-rowe
• WikiTree profile Rowe-494 created through the import of BEATTY_2011-07-18.ged on Jul 18, 2011 by Paul Beatty.