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Juliane (Trussell) de Whitney (abt. 1410 - 1441)

Juliane (Janet) "Jennet, Joan" de Whitney formerly Trussell
Born about in Whitney, Herefordshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 1435 in Whitney, Herefordshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of
Died at about age 31 in Whitney, Herefordshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Joan (Trussell) de Whitney[1]

Joan is a descendant of one of the Illustrious Men, William Longespée.[2]
Joan (Juliane, Jennet, Jenet, Janet[3]), daughter of Sir William Trussell and his wife Margery Ludlow, married Eustace Whitney (born c. 1411). They had one son: Robert Whitney.[4]
Jenet (Trussell) de Whitney died 1441 in Whitney, Herefordshire, England.[5]
Eustace married (2) Joan Clifford and died 1480/1.[4]

Family

Parents: Joan was the daughter of Sir William Trussell and Margery Ludlow[6]
born after 1402, about 1410, or 1413[7] in Whitney, Herefordshire, England[8]
Father: Sir William Trussell was the son of Lawrence Trussell, who was the son of Sir Warin Trussell and his wife Maud (de St. Philibert) Trucadssell. Lawrence married Maud Charnels.[6] Sir William Trussell "died 16 (or 23) January 1465."[9]
Mother: Margery Ludlow, daughter of John Ludlow, Knt., of Stokesay, Hodnet, and Westbury, Shropshire by Isabel, daughter of Ralph Lingen, Knt.[9] Margery died before September 1448.[9]
parents' marriage: Sir William and Margery Ludlow "married before March 1402"[9] [6]
siblings: Sir William and Margery "had one son, Thomas, and two daughters, Isabel and Joan (wife of Eustace Whitney). ..."[9]
Husband: Eustace Whitney (Eustace was "aged 30 in 1441")[6]
Children
  • Robert Whitney[4] was born about 1436, Whitney, Herefordshire;[10] he married (1) about 1460, Constance Touchet, (2) "say 1465," Elizabeth or Alice Vaughn[10]

Research Notes

Detached profiles:
  • Profile detached (Oct. 31, 2015) for Joan Whitney (b 1375), married Walwyn, needs to find parents born before she was.
  • A profile for a daughter was attached to one of the duplicate profiles for Jennet Trussell m Eustace Whitney. (For Eleanor Whitney born 1426, m James Scudamore b 1419, with their child Catherine born 1434.) That profile was detached.
  • On Oct. 31, 2015, profile for Robert Whitney, father of Joan (Whitney-884) Walwyn, was detached as a husband of Juliane de Whitney (Trussell-59). ~ Noland-165 12:38, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

Sources

  1. Plantagenet Ancestry (#Richardson-PA)
  2. Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume I, page 354 BEVAN 13.
  3. from merged profiles
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Plantagenet Ancestry, Vol 1, p 265 (#Richardson-PA)
  5. from Trussell-154, Trussell-61; Eustace was "aged 30 in 1441" (#Richardson-PA), which I had assumed was from a 1441 IPM for his father, but his father's IPM (according to HOP) was 1443. Did women have IPMs? If so, perhaps the 1441 date came from Joan/Jenet's IPM (which matches this profile giving just 1441 as date of death). If not, and the 1441 date was from another IPM, then Joan's date of death should be either before or after 1441, depending on whether or not she was mentioned as living (Noland-165, Oct. 21, 2015)
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 Royal Ancestry (#Richardson-RA)
  7. after 1402 based on parents' "by 1402" marriage; about 1410 entered in datafields; 1413 from Trussell-61, entered by Janice Hardin, Dec 9, 2011
  8. from Trussell-61 and Trussell-154
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 Plantagenet Ancestry, page 359 (#Richardson-PA)
  10. 10.0 10.1 Robert Whitney, Whitney Research Group (WRG)

Acknowledgements

Style Standards applied. Click the Changes tab to see edits to this profile; from that list, click WikiTree IDs other than Trussell-59 to see changes to those profiles prior to being merged.
Thank you to everyone who contributed to this profile.








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Is there reason to suppose she was born at Whitney?
posted by C. Mackinnon
divorced her (detached profile) from Robert Whitney, born 1340
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Richardson's Royal Ancestry has Eustace m dau. of Thomas Trussell (b in or before 1424), son of William & Margery.

Need to see if that's a change from Magna Carta Ancestry or we have two generations of Trussell/Whitney marriages (that would explain a lot!)

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Note: Thomas _Russell_ as father is shown by the Whitney Research Group (WRG):

"He married firstly, Jennet Russell,[4] daughter of Sir Thomas Russell (some authorities say Sir William Trussell, Knight, by dau. of Sir John Ludlow, Knight; See: Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry)."

One of the merged profiles for Joan (LNAB Russell) was this Thomas Russell.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Trussell-61 and Trussell-59 appear to represent the same person because: Hi! Please keep both Whitney husbands attached after the merge. WRG says Jane/Janet (Jennet) Trussell married Robert de Whitney. Richardson says she married Eustace. Bartrum doesn't shown this couple. I'm working on a resolution. In the meantime, I don't want to lose track of either of the Whitney profiles. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi! I've edited the profile to be in line with Joan Trussell who married Eustace Whitney and was the daughter of William, son of Lawrence & Maud Charnels. And proposed a merge with Trussell-61. Give me a holler if you have any questions. Cheers, Liz
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
update: no longer attached to the same profile (of a father b 1356)

I think this person is the daughter of someone else (father b 1356).

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi! Please take a look at a question I posted in G2G about English/Welsh names.

Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thomas m Margery in 1414 appear to be a different couple than the parents of Joan/Jennet m Eustace Whitney (William & Margery m before March 1402). Could you check your sources & add supporting information? Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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