John Saunders migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 295) Join: Puritan Great Migration Project Discuss: pgm
A. John Sanders: Unknown; 1622; Wessagusset (Weymouth [GMB 1525]. Sent to Massachusetts Bay by Thomas Weston and left in charge during the winter of 1622/3. No known children. No Wikitree profile.
B. John Sanders: Unknown; 1636; Salem; m. Elizabeth Grafton; d. 1643 [TEG 23:229-35]
C. John Sanders: Unknown; 1638; Salisbury; Married Hester Rolfe; Returned to England 1655. [TEG 23:229-35]
D. John Saunders: Unknown; 1634; Ipswich, Hampton, Wells, Cape Porpus; m. Ann d. 1670 [GM 2:6: 165-71]
E. John Saunders Unknown; 1639; Piscataqua. Mentioned in the will of Jonathan Weymouth [GDMNH 606]. No Wikitree profile.
F. John Sanders of Lynn died intestate. Admin granted 28 June 1670. Inventory 29 Nov 1670. No Wikitree profile. Essex County Probate 2:193 ($)
The John Saunders married to Alice Coles is not any of these men.
This particular John appears as "Sanders" in Anderson's "Great Migration Directory" on page 271 with an Unknown origin, arrival by 1638 to Salisbury and the note that he returned permanently to England in 1655.[1]
Biography
John Saunders immigrated to New England between 1621 and 1640 and later departed for England
Immigration
Passengers Intended for New England in the good ship Confidence of London, 200 tons, John Jobson, master, 11 April 1638. Southampton 24 April 1638.[2]
John Sanders of Lanford [Langford] in the County of Wilts, Husbandman, 25
Sara Sanders his wife (see notes below, some research indicates this was not his wife but his sister)
John Roaff of Melchitt [Millchill] Parke of Wilsheir, Husbandman, 50
Ann Roaff his wife
Hester Roaff, their daughter
Thomas Whittle their servant, 18.
PackratPro gives this entry for the "Confidence":
Sanders, John, 25, husbandman of Caversham, Oxfordshire, or Landford Wiltshire, wife Sarah[3] again noting that some consider Sara to be his sister, not his wife.
Marriage or Marriages
Maybe First: A wife Sara sailed on the Confidence with John. Sara died soon, for John remarried late in 1638 or early in 1639.
David Webster Hoyt author of The Old Families of Salisbury suggested that Sarah may have been his sister, Sarah Sanders who married Maj. Robert Pike in 1643.[4] If indeed Sara the first wife was, instead, his sister Sarah (Sanders) Pike then this John was the son of John Saunders and Alice (Coles) Saunders.
Second: John married Hester Rolfe, daughter of John, who sailed on the Confidence with him. Their first child was born Sep 1639.
John Rolfe left his daughter and son-in-law property in Salisbury in his 1663 will. "2dly I give and bequeath my house and all my land I have in salsbery with all the priviledges and apurtenances be longing ther vnto in said salsbery unto my daughterr Hestur Sanders the wife of John Sanders during hir life and thirtie pounds more and after hir decease to Remain unto hir Children of hir body by Equall portions."[1,10][5]
Massachusetts
6 Sep 1638 "Mr Bradstreete, Mr Dudley junior, Capt Dennison, Mr. Clarke of Newberry, Mr. Woodbridge, Mr Battye, Mr Batter, Mr Winsley, Hen: Bily, Giles Firman, Richrd Kent, and John Sanders are alowed (upon their petition) to begin a plantation at Merrimack ..."[6]
5 Nov 1639 another petition to Massachusetts Colony was made by inhabitants of Colechester, appointing John and five others to order the business fo the town making sure that lots are divided evenly.[7]
13 May 1640 Henry Saunders and others of the Salisbury settlers were given freeman status by Massachusetts Bay.[8]
1642 John was appointed as Deputy to the Massachusetts Court from Salixbury[9]
1 Mar 1642 John sold land in Salisbury to Edward French.[10]
10 May 1643 He was appointed with two others to deal with small claims in Salisbury under 20s.Records of Massachusetts Bay Vol 2. p. 35
28 Dec 1643 John Sanders "of Salisbury" was director of the estate of Robert Marston.[10]
1 March 1644 John "of Newbury" sold 13 acres in Salisbury.[10]
30 Sep 1652 He sold his house at Salisbury with the consent of his wife Hester.[10]
1653 sold several parcels of land in Salisbury.[10]
1654 John was a representative to the General Court of Massachusetts.[10]
Return to England and Death
John and Hester returned to Wiltshire, England, permanently in 1655. They left kinsman[11]Richard Dole to act as their agent in New England. They were both still living in 1676 when they signed documents for Dole.[12]
They resided in England at Weeks, parish of Downton, Wiltshire, England.[13]
Great Migration Directory: Sanders, John: Unknown; 1638; Salisbury; returned permanently to England in 1655 [Drake’s Founders 58; SyTR 1; MBCR 1:237, 277, 376; TEG 23:229-35].
Sources
↑ Great Migration Directory by Robert Charles Anderson, page 271 entry for John Sanders
↑ 2.02.1 Drake, Samuel Gardner, Result of some researches among the British archives for information relative to the founders of New England : made in the years 1858, 1859 and 1860; originally collected for and published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, and now corrected and enlarged (Boston : Office of the New Eng. Hist. and Gen. Register, 1860.) p 58
↑ PackratPro passenger list for the "Confidence" sailing of 1638
↑ Hoyt, David Webster. The old families of Salisbury and Amesbury, Massachusetts; with some related families of Newbury, Haverhill, Ipswich and Hampton (Providence, R.I. : [Snow & Farnham, printers], 1897) [https://archive.org/details/cu31924025963772/page/n323 bio and footnotes p. 309.
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Essex County, MA: Early Probate Records, 1635-1681.Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. Vol 1 p. 438 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)
↑ Shurtleff, Nathaniel. Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England Volume 1 1628-1641 (William White, Boston, 1853-)p. 237
↑ Shurtleff, Nathaniel. Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England Volume 2 1642-1649 (William White, Boston, 1853-) p. 1
↑ Hester's cousin, Hannah (d/o Henry Rolfe) m. Richard Dole.
↑ "Correction to NEHGR 113 p. 223 and The Essex Genealogist Nov 2003. p. 233." The Essex Genealogist 27 p. 94 Link at AmericanAncestors ($) The error stated that John died in Newbury 8 Feb 1664.
↑ “New England families, genealogical and memorial: a record of the achievements of her people in the making of commonwealths and the founding of a nation” Volume 4 by William Richard Cutter p 2039- 2040 (Note this are a lot of errors but it is worth a read).
↑ 14.014.114.214.3 Vital records of Salisbury, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849. (Topsfield, Mass., Topsfield historical society, 1915) p. 213
↑ 15.015.115.215.315.4 Vital records of Newbury, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849. Salem, Mass. : Essex Institute, 1911. pp 459, 461
Baptism for John of Downton. 1613. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N63C-HJ6 : 6 December 2014), John Saunders, John Saunders; citing Downton, Wiltshire, England, reference 18; FHL microfilm 1,279,387.
The Pioneers of Massachusetts (1620-1650)
The founders of the Massachusetts Bay Colony: a careful research of the earliest records of many of the foremost settlers of the New England colony” by Sarah Sprague Saunders Smith pages 17 42,54, and 55.
link.download pdf This book has been called well-intentioned but has conflated the several John Sanders.
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The americanancestors.org web site just added "The Essex Genealogist", Vol. 37 (2017). See Page 87-97 for the article "John Sanders of Salisbury and Newbury, Massachusetts", who came to New England in 1638.
OOooops, with reference to my comment of 18 December, I see that I did not read far enough down, Landford is indeed Sanders' most likely last residence before he left England. The Packratpro list shows two possible origins, but that is obviously because the original inscriptions did not line up across the page. The Packratpro list does NOT suggest Sarah was Sanders' sister.
It's curious, however, that Anderson did not include the name of the ship in the GMD since Drake was one of his sources for passenger lists. He was appparently doubtful about Langford since he showed Sanders' origin as unknown.
The packratpro entry is not and does not profess to be an original inscription. Packratpro attempts to give the origins of immigrants if known and represents simply that they found two different places in secondary records. Drake was working from the primary record. Since his entire purpose was to correct errors which had occurred in the NEHGR, I think it is fair to say the Drake transcription exactly what the original record says. It should be noted that "Lanford" (sic Langford, co. Wilts) was not necessarily where John Sanders was born, married or had children, but simply the last place he was living immediately prior to immigration.
In the Confidence passenger list, "Lanford" could just as easily be Landford, Wiltshire, or even Longford, Wiltshire. Although Weekes (now Wick). Downton, Wiltshire, seems a more likely birthplace, Landford appears most likely as a subsequent residence in view of his association with Robert Pike. I can't imagine any reason for his going to Langford—such an out-of-the-way place. If you don't want to add all those possibilities, I suggest replacing [Langford] with (sic).
The Saunders, Coles and Rolfs who emigrated together from Wiltshire on the "Confidence" were very intertwined.
John Saunders was probably the son of John Saunders and Alice (Coles) Saunders. The John Cole who accompanied him on the "Confidence" was probably an uncle. John Saunders' wife, Hester Rolfe, was the daughter of Joane (Coles) Rolfe, who was probably an aunt.
I'm not sure what the new research is that Nina was referencing below that suggests that John was not the son of John Saunders and Alice (Cole) Saunders. That research does not seem to have been added to this profile.
Kudos to all the hard work completed on this profile. I think the various John Sanders/Saunders are well on their way to being straightened out and my earlier comment no longer applies.
Saunders-4102 and Saunders-419 appear to represent the same person because: They lived at the same time and place, and were married to the same people.
It's curious, however, that Anderson did not include the name of the ship in the GMD since Drake was one of his sources for passenger lists. He was appparently doubtful about Langford since he showed Sanders' origin as unknown.
Edgar
John Saunders was probably the son of John Saunders and Alice (Coles) Saunders. The John Cole who accompanied him on the "Confidence" was probably an uncle. John Saunders' wife, Hester Rolfe, was the daughter of Joane (Coles) Rolfe, who was probably an aunt.
I'm not sure what the new research is that Nina was referencing below that suggests that John was not the son of John Saunders and Alice (Cole) Saunders. That research does not seem to have been added to this profile.