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John Saunders (abt. 1572 - abt. 1649)

John Saunders aka Sanders
Born about in Wiltshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
Husband of — married 4 Feb 1610 in Downton, Wiltshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Father of , , , and
Died about at about age 77 in Downton, Wiltshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Because this person is frequently confused with New England immigrants of the same name, this profile is being coordinated by the Puritan Great Migration Project.

Contents

Biography

  • There is no reason to believe that this man ever went to New England.
    • As far as can be told he is not any of the known New England persons and activities in New England cannot be attributed to this man.
  • There is no reason to believe that he died in 1634, 1643, or 1670.
  • Evidence that children John and Sarah migrated to New England is slim, but not ruled out.
  • Alleged parents Henry and Sibyl need to be researched.

Disambiguation

  • A. John Sanders: Unknown; 1622; Wessagusset (Weymouth [GMB 1525]. Sent to Massachusetts Bay by Thomas Weston and left in charge during the winter of 1622/3. No known children.
  • B. John Sanders: Unknown; 1636; Salem; m. Elizabeth Grafton; d. 1643 [TEG 23:229-35]
  • C. John Sanders: Unknown; 1638; Salisbury; Married Hester Rolfe; Returned to England 1655. [TEG 23:229-35]
  • D. John Saunders: Unknown; 1634; Ipswich, Hampton, Wells, Cape Porpus; m. Ann d. 1670 [GM 2:6: 165-71]
  • E. John Saunders Unknown; 1639; Piscataqua. Mentioned in the will of Jonathan Weymouth [GDMNH 606]. No Wikitree profile.
  • F. John Sanders of Lynn died intestate. Admin granted 28 June 1670. Inventory 29 Nov 1670. No Wikitree profile. Essex County Probate 2:193 ($)
  • The John Saunders married to Alice Coles is not any of these men.

Known Facts

John was born about 1580 (estimate).

John Saunders married Ales Coles 04 Feb 1610 in Downton, Wiltshire, England[1]

Children were born to a John in Downton, Wiltshire, England, No mother was named.

  1. John Saunders 26 Mar 1613[2]
  2. Elizabeth Saunders 18 Dec 1614[3]
  3. Sara Saunders 22 Feb 1615[4]
  4. Joseph Saunders 22 Jan 1617[5]
  5. Moses Saunders 18 Apr 1622[6]

Speculative facts - do they belong to this family?

? Alice Sannders, widow, buried 8 May 1637 in Wiltshire, England.[7]

? Als Saunders m. Thomas Eastman 21 Oct 1634 in Downton, Wiltshire, England[8]

? John Sanders buried 12 Feb 1648 Downton, Wiltshire, England[9]

? There is a PCC Will dated 27 Dec 1648/probate granted 28 Sep 1649 for a John Saunders, yeoman, of Downton Wiltshire in which John mentions: Wife Alice; son John Saunders; daughter Sara Pile; daughter Elinor Wheller; daughter Dorothy Wayden; daughter Alice Eastman; unnamed grandchildren; son Moses Saunder.

? Dorthye, d/o John, bpt 17 Aug 1606 Downton, Wiltshire, England. [10] Two Johns? Previous marriage?

? Richard Saunders, s/o John, bpt 16 Dec 1604[11]

Note: A William Saunders also having children during the timeframe.

Alternate information on merged profiles

  • 1572 in Wiltshire, England. 10 Jul 1670 in Salem Essex, MA (-4103)
  • 1572 in Weeks, Downton Parish, Wiltshire, England. 28 Sep 1643 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts (-212)
  • 1585 in Downton, Wiltshire, England. 21 Oct 1634 in Downton, Wiltshire, England (-3024)
  • 1592 in Downton, Wiltshire, England. No Alice but has dtr Eliz. Chiles (-1836)
  • died 21 Oct 1634 in Downton, Wiltshire, England

John was born about 1572. John was buried at Downton, Wiltshire on 12 February 1648/9.


Sources

  1. ↑ "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXSC-D92 : 10 February 2018), John Saunders and Ales Coles, 04 Feb 1610; citing Downton, Wiltshire, England, reference 155, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,387.
  2. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N63C-HJ6 : 10 February 2018, John Saunders, ); citing 18, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,387.
  3. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1BL-NQZ : 11 February 2018, Elizabeth Saunders, 18 Dec 1614); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1279375 IT 1-3.
  4. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRPV-X6P : 10 February 2018, Sara Saunders, ); citing item 1, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,375.
  5. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6SN-493 : 10 February 2018, Joseph Saunders, ); citing item 1, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,375.
  6. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6SN-454 : 10 February 2018, Moses Saunders, ); citing item 1, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,375.
  7. ↑ "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8T7-PZ7 : 10 February 2018), Alice Sannders, burial 08 May 1637; citing Wiltshire, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,348.
  8. ↑ "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXSC-8MY : 10 February 2018), Thomas Eastman and Als Saunders, 21 Oct 1634; citing Downton, Wiltshire, England, reference 165, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,387.
  9. ↑ "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8C3-N6N : 10 February 2018), John Sanders, burial 12 Feb 1648; citing Downton, Wiltshire, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,387.
  10. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7DV-P6B : 10 February 2018, Dorthye Saunders, ); citing item 1, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,375.
  11. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3RW-H5J : 10 February 2018, Richard Saunders, ); citing 4, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,387.
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Strong-3621 JT Strong
Created a profile for "A. John Sanders" in the Disambiguation section, so added a link for him and removed the notation, "No Wikitree profile."
posted by JT Strong
Anonymous Baker
There is a PCC Will dated 27 Dec 1648/probate granted 28 Sep 1649 for a John Saunders, yeoman, of Downton Wiltshire in which John mentions -

Wife Alice; son John Saunders; daughter Sara Pile; daughter Elinor Wheller; daughter Dorothy Wayden; daughter Alice Eastman; unnamed grandchildren; son Moses Saunder.

posted by Anonymous Baker
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-8638 and Saunders-212 appear to represent the same person because: These are the same people dates are estimates. Parents need to be researched.
posted by Anne B
Day-1904 Jack Day
Profile says it is protected by Puritan Great Migration but is not PPP'd -- need to bring one in line with the other!
posted by Jack Day
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-3024 and Saunders-212 appear to represent the same person because: Both are John Saunders m. to Alice Coles
posted by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-1836 and Saunders-212 appear to represent the same person because: There are a bunch of duplicates for the John Saunders who married Alice Cole. As far as I can tell he did not migrate to New England. His death is unknown. His birth is an estimate, and probably in Wiltshire, perhaps in Downton. The "stuff" in most of the bios is not him. There is a facts only bio on Saunders-6519. I couldn't find anything on the unsourced Henry and Sibyl parents. They should probably be removed. No one seems to want to positively commit to which immigrant is their son John and dtr Elizabeth m. Chiles is probably just wrong.

Same message for merges of Saunders-6519 and Saunders-212 Saunders-4103 and Saunders-212

posted by Anne B
B-404 Anne B
Saunders-4103 and Saunders-212 are not ready to be merged because: There are a lot of John Saunders/Sanders in early New England, and a lot of duplicates on Wikitree. Let me see if I can sort them out.
posted by Anne B
Downey-1809 Teresa Downey
Saunders-4103 and Saunders-212 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same birth place/year, same wife. Death year needs to be determined.
posted by Teresa Downey
Nordlund-16 Daniel Nordlund
Saunders-417 and Saunders-212 appear to represent the same person because: same dates of birth and death
posted by Daniel Nordlund
Kabrich-1 Robin Kabrich
Saunders-212 and Saunders-417 are not ready to be merged because: Spouses are different, which results in a conflict of mothers for Sarah (Saunders) Pike, as well as the parents of each mother. This conflict needs to be resolved before the profiles can be merged.
posted by Robin Kabrich

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