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John Seneschal (1250 - 1308)

John Seneschal
Born in Helland, Cornwall, Englandmap [uncertain]
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"Le Seneschal was the family name. John's father was also John le Seneschal and the name is probably a metonym derived from an ancestral seneschal. John le Seneschal, 1278 - 1321, of Predannack Wollas in Mullion, Cornwall, married Joan de Kernick, in d1320, and had three coheirs, Margaret, Elizabeth and Joan, (vid. Bish.Stapledon's Reg.,4, for a dispute in 1324 regarding their wardship: "Johanna, que fuit uxor Johannis le Seneschal [defuncti] summonita fuit ad respondendum Waltero, Episcopo Exoniensis, de Placito quod reddat ei Margaretam, Elizabetham et Johannam, filias et heredes Johannis le Seneschal...").

In the wardship dispute, her mother claimed that Margaret had married during the lifetime of her father, John le Seneschal ("Et quoad predictam Margaretam, filiam et unam heredum predicti Johannis, [Joan] dicit quod ipsa Margareta non est in Custodia sua, eo quod ipsa maritata fuit vivente predicto Johanne, patre suo..."). As such a claim had to be made, it perhaps suggests a young marriage. MacLean has Margaret's first marriage (c1312?) to James Peverell, who died in 1313, and her second (c1315/ 1320?) to Richard Sergeaux (Cergeaux, Cirieaux). Elizabeth (if she is the same as the sister) m Ralph Arundel of Caerhayes, Cornwall (Vivian: Arundel of Trerice), Joan [of Trenethick in Hendron, m Hill?], (Lysons' Mag. Brit, III, cl).

John was the son of John le Seneschal, (1250) - 1308, (IPM 2Edw.II, no.112). There was also an earlier John (born c1200? in service to Emma de Cardinham in 1234, CFF ) and a Richard le Seneschal.

Joan, John's widow in the wardship dispute, was Joan de Kernick, daughter of Oger de Kernick, d1292, of Treneage in Brannel, Cornwall, and his wife, Constance de Bloigho, who was the daughter of Alan de Bloigho and Matilda de Hewis. (It has been said that Bloigho was the Cornishman's phonetic attempt at Blois. It probably sounded something like Blue You or Blow You.)

A Richard le Seneschal ( brother of John born 1278 ?), rector of Whitstone in 1310, was presented by Oliver de Carmino. An Alice le Seneschal was married to John Petit (b1335?). Vivian has this last under Tresahar. Both he and Boase have Michael le Seneschal as a son of Margaret". I West[1]

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  1. https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/BLjxahdWVfs?pli=1

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  • This profile was created through the import of Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011.




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Born c1250 probably Cornwall, England died 1308 again Cornwall, England taken from IPM 2 Edward II number 112.

Source - https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?searchemails=Seneschal&listname= see son for details.

posted by Malc Rowlands

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