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Edmund Shaw (abt. 1596 - 1665)

Edmund Shaw
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1630 in Suffolk, NYmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 69 in East Hampton, New Yorkmap
Profile last modified | Created 24 Jan 2013
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Edmund Shaw migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).
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Biography

Edmund Shaw, immigrant probably from England, was an early settler of East Hampton, Long Island. His date of birth and origins are unknown.

EDMUND SHAW, married ________;[1] of Southampton, Long Island, New York; died 3 May 1675, East Hampton, Long Island; will dated 3 May 1675-proved 5-6 June 1677. “The estate of Edmund Shaw was divided among the heirs in court, 5-6 June 1677, among the heirs by Thomas Shaw, administrator, and Henry Ludlam. The will of Edmund Shaw . . . names sons Thomas and Richard Shaw, daughter Ludlam wife of Henry Ludlam, and daughter Hester wife of John Foster. When Richard Shaw, Sr., of East Hampton, made his will 7 September 1680, he named as overseers ‘my friends and brothers Henry Ludlam of Southampton and John Parsons of East Hampton.’”[2] When it was inventoried in 1677, Shaw’s estate was very small, valued at £48 and 5 shillings.[3]

SOUTHAMPTON TOWN RECORDS

General court, March 1653: “At a general court Edmond Shaw was censured for his excess in drink to pay unto the town the sum of ten shillings, the same to be exacted at the discretion of the magistrates according to his future behavior.”[4]

21 June 1655: “At a court June the 21, 1655. The Court having considered and weighted the miscarriage of the men who were bound over to this court, viz., Joseph Raynor, John Wendal, Edmond Shaw, they find them deeply guilty in the manner of acting in or about taking the vessel, in several particulars, first for contempt of authority, manifest breach of the peace in many mutinous expressions, and actions, for which miscarriages and others the court doth sentence them to pay 20 shillings apiece, viz. Edmond Shaw, Joseph Rayner, and Thomas Diament, the other two, viz. Samuel Dayton and John Wendal, 50 shillings apiece for their presumption proceedings two times, after they had covenanted and engaged [p. 124] to the contrary, making further molestation and disturbance in the place, further the court sees just casuse to fine Samuel Dayton 50 shillings for aspersing the town with an unjust accusation, saying, “What should we yield for to have a trial in this town that never did good.”[5]

30 October 1655: jury duty for Edmond Shaw.[6]

1 March 1658: At the court of 1 March 1658: Edmond Shaw was censured by the magistrates [words missing] for his miscarriage in drinking.[7]

7 October 1659: Edmond Shaw a member of the jury.[8]

1 September 1663: “Edward [sic] Shaw being convicted the second time of drunkenness is ordered by the court to pay 20 shillings.”[9]

1 November 1667: Trial of the Case between Southampton and Southold, Long Island—a boundary dispute. “Edmund Shaw saith that about 8 or 9 years ago, hee was with Wyancomboue, the Montakett Sachem, when ye Sachem being at Southton side, where hee lay all night went over the two Rivers and Marckt a Tree, asd the bounds between Southton and Southold it was at Peaconnock, the Tree is at the high water marke and is on the Southold side.”[10]

Tax list, 8 September 1683: East Hampton, Widow Shaw, listed with 2 heads [polls?], no land, 2 oxen, 2 cows, 1 swine, 6 sheep; rated at £73.[11][Not Edmond’s widow; then whose? Must be Richard’s.]

CHILDREN

Children of Edmund and unknown wife:

  1. RICHARD SHAW, m. REMEMBER GARLICK.
  2. THOMAS SHAW; tax list, 1683: Southampton, Thomas Shaw, listed with 2 poles, rated at £60.[12]
  3. Maybe a daughter—m. JOHN PARSONS (s. of Robert Parsons).
  4. HESTER SHAW, m. JOHN FOSTER.
  5. JANE SHAW, m. HENRY LUDLAM.

Children (unsourced)[13]

  1. Richard Shaw, b. East Hampton, LI, NY, d. 1683, East Hampton, LI, NY
  2. Thomas Shaw
  3. Unknown Shaw, b. East Hampton, LI, NY
  4. Jane Shaw, b. Abt 1631, New York , d. 24 Sep 1713, East Hampton, Suffolk Co., LI, NY (Age ~ 82 years)
  5. Hester (Esther) Shaw, b. Apr 1638, East Hampton, LI, NY


NOTE:

In his will (3 May 1675), he made a bequest to a daughter (later identified as Hester) who married John Foster.[14] The will also mentions sons Thomas and Richard, and [daughter] wife of Henry Ludlam.[15][16]

Note also that the 1675 will coordinates with the death date of 1676 shown in the NEHGS record of his marriage (see source list; spouse not named and marriage undated).

Research Notes

Despite the efforts of U.S.-based Shaw family researchers, there is as yet (10 Feb 2018) no known evidence of Edmund Shaw's origins in England.

There are various shoehorned records for different Edmund Shaws. None of these are dis-proven yet.

  • DOB on the profile was 30 January 1596 based on....?
  • Some trees have him as the son of John Shaw (1570 - 1620) and Jean Editha (Cunningham) Shaw (1576). Perhaps there is a will in England ($$) that would disprove or prove this.
  • Some trees have him born 1596 in Matlock, Derbyshire.
  • Perhaps he is the same Edmonde Shaw who married Anne Kellet 5 Dec 1619 St Oswald, Warton Nr Lancaster, Lancs.[17]
  • He seems likely to be the Edmund Shaw "censured for his excess in drinking to pay unto the towne the some of ten shillings" at "a generall Co'rt" on 3 March 1653 at Southampton.[18]

Sources

  1. His wife’s name is said to have been Anne Kellet; I have seen no evidence to support this hypothesis. His wife, whatever her name was, was dead by the time his estate was divided. So not even her first name was recorded.
  2. Conklin Mann, “Robert Parsons of East Hampton, Long Island,” TAG 20 (Jan. 1944): 151-52; Conklin Mann, “William Ludlam of Southampton,” TAG 20 (July 1943): 15.
  3. “Inventories, Suffolk Co., L.I.,” NYGBR 12, no. 3 (July 1881): 132, citing Sessions Book No. 1, p. 65.
  4. Southampton TR, 1: 96.
  5. Southampton TR, 1: 123-24.
  6. Southampton TR, 1: 110.
  7. Southampton TR, 1: 125.
  8. Southampton TR, 1: 139.
  9. Southampton TR, 2: 31, citing p. 41 in original.
  10. B. Fernow, Documents Relating to the History of the Early Colonial Settlements, Principally on Long Island [Vol. 14 of Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State of New York] (Albany, NY: Weed, Parsons & Co., 1883), 600.
  11. Rate lists of Long Island, Documentary History of the State of New York, 2: 541.
  12. Rate lists of Long Island, Documentary History of the State of New York, 2: 538.
  13. Shaw on LongIslandSurnames.com
  14. Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F, page 553, citing Suffolk Sessions 66
  15. NEHGR 55 (1901): 206, citing Suffolk Session p 66
  16. The American Genealogist, 20:151
  17. Lancashire OnLine Parish Clerks. "Marriages at St Oswald (formerly Holy Trinity) in the Parish of Warton near Lancaster. Marriages recorded in the Register for 1569 - 1648." http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Warton-near-Lancaster/stoswald/index.html (accessed February 2, 2018)
  18. The Early History of Southampton, L.I. New York, with Genealogies, by George Rogers Howell; New York, J.N. Hallock, 1866; https://archive.org/details/earlyhistoryofso00howel/page/96
  • Marriage (undated; spouse not named; Edmund's d. shown as 1676): New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015; https://www.americanancestors.org/DB1568/i/21175/1357/426903443 (subscription required)

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Acknowledgments

Thanks to X Gorby for starting this profile.





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East Hampton should be in Suffolk County, rather than Lewis County?
posted by Gloria Beymer
Should he be PGM Beyond? ...........................
posted by S (Hill) Willson
yes, I think so S. that is if you have indication that he was here by 1640 (or into the summer of 1641) he should be PGM Beyond New England sub-project of Puritan Great Migration project. thanks.
Here's a profile that needs work... do we even know that he migrated by 1640 or summer of 1641? As Christopher says below, he is not in the GM Directory. His wife also looks questionable.

Anyone take this update?

The death date given -- 3 May 1665 -- appears to be a typo of the date of the will -- 3 May 1675. NEHGS/Torrey, in an admittedly otherwise bare marriage record, shows his death year as 1676. Objections to changing the profile death date to 1676, status "about/uncertain"?
posted by Christopher Childs
Re: source for the marriage/identity of the wife? NEHGS/Torrey has, at Easthampton, only the m. of an Edmund Shaw -- who d. 1676, not 1665 -- to an unknown wife, with no m. date. Were there two like-aged Edmund Shaws in E. at the same time? (Also: Anderson does not have him in the GM Directory.) [We have a Shaw brick wall in our Jones lineage & I would love to know more about this line...]
posted by Christopher Childs
What is the source for the identity of his spouse? Thanks.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Shaw-5596 and Shaw-3084 appear to represent the same person because: This is from a merge. They are the same person, however, need to use information from ID# 3084
posted by Sally Stovall
Shaw-3084 and Shaw-5596 do not represent the same person because: Not the same dates or places