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Rebecca (Short) Palmer (abt. 1612 - 1671)

Rebecca Palmer formerly Short
Born about in Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married before 1 Jun 1633 in Charlestown, Suffolk County, Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 59 in Stonington, New London, Connecticutmap
Profile last modified | Created 27 Jul 2010
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There are disproven, disputed, or competing theories about this person's parents. See the text for details.
The Puritan Great Migration.
Rebecca (Short) Palmer migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 3, p. 1675)
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Contents

Biography

Estimated Birth

Rebecca was born about 1612, assuming she was about 20 when she married Walter Palmer (between her arrival in 1632 and admission to the Roxbury church June 1633).

Residence

From Roxbury, Massachusetts, church records we learn that "Rebeckah Short a maid servant, she came in the year 1632 & was married to [blank] Palmer a godly man of Charlestown church".[1]
COMMENT: Her husband was WALTER PALMER of Charlestown, Rehoboth and Stonington.[2]
The daughter Grace admitted to the church with Walter and Rebecca was a daughter of his first marriage. From his first marriage he also had children John, Elizabeth, William, and Jonah.
1633. 4:Mo:day i (1 June 1633) "walter Pamer, and Rebeckah his wife: and Grace Pamer their daughter: were Admitted." to the First Church in Charlestown.[3]
From Charlestown, the family removed to Rehoboth in 1644. Walter Palmer and his wife Rebecca were founders of Stonington, Connecticut in 1653[2]
Rebecca Palmer died at Stonington, 15 July 1671. "Saturday at night Mother palmer departed this life"[4]

Children

The children of Rebecca Short and her husband Walter Palmer were:[2]

  1. Hannah bp 15 June 1634 (4: mo: day 15) "Hanna Palmer the daughter of Gualter Palmer and of Rebeckah his wife : was babtised."[3] m1 Thomas Hewitt, 27 Apr 1659; m2 Roger Sterry, 27 Dec 1671; m3 John Fish, 25 August 1681
  2. Elihu bp 24 Jan 1635/6 (11th:mo:day 24) "Elihu Palmer the son of Gualter Palmer and of Rebeckah his wife was Babtised"[3] d 5 Sep 1665. unmarried.
  3. Nehimiah bp 23 Nov 1637 (9th:mo:day 23 "Nehemiah Palmer the son of Gualter Palmer and of Rebeckah his wife was Babtised.")[3] m Hannah Stanton, 20 November 1662
  4. Moses bp 6 April 1640 ( 2d mo day 6 "Moses Pamer the son of Gaulther Pamer and of Rebbeckah his wife was Baptized."[3] m by about 1672 Dorothy Gilbert
  5. Benjamin bp 6 June 1642 ( 4th mo day 6 "Beniamin Palmer the son of Walter Pamer and of Rebeckah his wife was Baptized.")[3] m by 1681 an unknown wife
  6. Gershom b. say 1644 m1 Ann Dennison, Nov 1667 m2 Elizabeth (Peck) Mason (widow of Samuel), Nov 1707
  7. Rebecca b. say 1646 m1 Elisha Cheeseborough, 20 Apr 1665 m2 John Baldwin, 24 Jul 1672


Research Notes

Disputed Parents: Thomas Short and Ann R Short (supposedly Landum) of Cornwall were previously attached as parents, but lacked reliable sources . If sufficient evidence becomes available they can always be reconnected.

"Rebecca Short (daughter of Thomas Short. (according to research manuscripts of Dr. Byron Smith Palmer) ... (the handwritten manuscripts of Dr. Palmer have no reference.)"[5]

Estimated Birth Date: An estimated birth of 1589, used by Find A grave (at some time) was based on Walter's estimated birth. 1589 is way to early for this Walter's second wife who was having children in 1634- 1647. When sources are lacking for a more perfect estimate, the PGM Project uses an assumed age of 20 at marriage for women.

Profile Needs: (as of 1/2/24) Death dates for the children could be added but need to be researched and sourced with reliable sources first (current attached profiles contain unverified information: Hannah d 1681, Nehemiah d 1717, John d 1709, Moses d 1701, Benjamin d 1716; Gershom d 1718, Rebecca d 1713)

Errors in print:

  1. The Walter Palmer Society records Rebecca's death as "shortly before June 5 1684" because that was when the division, by sons Nehemiah, Moses and Benjamin, of land occurred on that date which "our father left for our mother to divide".
  2. Colonial Families of the United States of America: Volume 3 page 377 records this wife as "Esther", parents of Nehemiah.

Sources

  1. Boston Record Commissioners. Boston Records Commissioners Reports (Rockwell and Churchill, Boston, 1875) Vol. 6. Roxbury Land and Church Records p. 77
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010), (Originally Published as: New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995). https://www.americanancestors.org/DB393/i/12107/1675/0
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 Records of the First Church in Charlestown, 1632-1789 (David Clapp and Son, Boston, 1880) Walter, Rebecca, Grace p. 8, Hanna p. 12, Elihu p. 46, Nehemiah p. 47, Moses p. 49, Benjamin p. 51
  4. Minor, Thomas. Diary Of Thomas Minor, Stonington Connecticut, 1653 to 1684 (The Day Publishing Co., Conn., 1899) p. 104
  5. Buys, Doris Palmer. Walter Palmer of Charlestown and Rehoboth, Massachusetts and Stonington, Connecticut : a 400-year (1585-1985) family history. (Orem, Utah : Published for the compiler by Historical Publications, 1986) p 47. see also #30 and 31 on p. 46.
  • The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010), (Originally Published as: New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995). p. 1675. Featured Sketch: Elizabeth Short.subscription site$
  • The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010), (Originally Published as: New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995). p. 1381. Featured Sketch: Walter Palmer.subscription site$
  • Buys, Doris Palmer. Walter Palmer of Charlestown and Rehoboth, Massachusetts and Stonington, Connecticut : a 400-year (1585-1985) family history (1986)
  • Early Families of New England (New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2013) Alicia Crane Williams, Lead Genealogist. Membership required. :
  • History of Stonington CT, by Wheeler, page 506.
  • Nancy Ann Norman. Some Descendants of Walter PALMER Publication: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nanc/palmer/index.htm#TOC; NOTESource Medium: Electronic Her sources: WALTER PALMER OF CHARLESTOWN AND REHOBOTH, MA & STONINGTON CT, a 400-Year (1585-1985) Family History, Compiled, Edited, Typed and Partly Researched by Doris Palmer Buys. To America 1628/9 on the "Four Sisters" AMERICAN ANCESTRY - Vol. XI (1898) by Joel Munsell's Sons. THE GRANBERRY FAMILY by Donald Jacobus (1945) GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF THE STATE OF CT. by William Cutter, EXTINCT PEERAGES by Burke (1831) . THE PIONEERS OF MASSACHUSETTS by Charles Pope. NEW England REGISTER - Vol. (1857) . THE PALMERS. HISTORY OF THE FIRST CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH OF STONINGTON, CT 1674-1874" By Richard Wheeler (1875) HISTORY OF THE TOWN OF STONINGTON by Richard A. Wheeler. HISTORY OF NEW LONDON by Frances M. Caulins (1860). REGISTER OF PEDIGREES Edited by John Reynolds Totten. THE COMPENDIUM OF AMERICAN GENEALOGY - Vol. by Frederick Virkus STONINGTON CHRONOGOGY 1649-1949 -By William Haynes. COLONIAL FAMILIES OF THE UNITED STATES - by George MacKenzie. CAR-DEL SCRIBE. HISTORY OF NEW LONDON COUNTY, CT" by D. Hamilton Hurd. GENEALOGICAL DICT. OF THE FIRST SETTLERS OF NEW England by James Savage GENEALOGY OF THE DESCENDANTS OF WILLIAM CHEESEBROUGH OF BOSTON, REBOBOTH, MA by Anna Chesebrough Wildey. GENEALOGICAL GLEANINGS IN England. PALMER RECORDS by Noyes F. Palmer (1881) ELDRED AND ASSOCIATED FAMILIES, Researched by: Catherine Matson & Clarice McNiven, Compiled by: Carol & Susan Matson.
  • Walter Palmer Society, maintained by Katharine Palmer Smith found on The Walter Palmer website which covers the genealogy of the first eight generations of Walter Palmer. Retrieved from: (Archived site from 15 August 2015)
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #63161739 Wequetequock Burial Ground Stonington. No stone, but husbands stone is there.
  • Various shared family trees and other sources compiled on Ancestry.com. Facts & details to be added after tree input.




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Conjecture under the heading "Notes" is clearly erroneous, being contradicted by the Diary of Thomas Minor (date of Rebecca's death) and Nehemiah's baptism record (Charlestown church record). I suggest removing the "Notes" section (and keep Research Notes). Also, the manuscripts of Dr. Byron S. Palmer weren't published.
posted by Charles Clark
I've removed the parents disputed back in 2018. Research notes with reciprocal links on all profiles are in place. If any evidence comes to light that they are the correct parents, they can always be reconnected.
posted by M Cole
Short-6934 and Short-27 appear to represent the same person because: same person; please merge
posted by Dave Rutherford
Patricia, there is no justification for keeping them. If you take the time to look at the sources you will see there are none which support the identification, and they are in fact impossible with dates which don't fit (though they have been changed to try and make them fit), from impossible county connections in England. It is classic connect random people with the same name and pure internet junk.

If I am wrong, please provide a source which connects this person about whom absolutely nothing is known to any actual person in England.

posted by Joe Cochoit
I totally agree with Steve Selbrede's 16:42 post -- mark them as uncertain, don't remove them!
posted by [Living Prickett]
I agree they should be removed. Searched numerous sources and as Joe said, there is no sourced reference for any parents, just Rebecca Short.
posted by Chris Hoyt
Absolutely nothing is known of Rebecca Short other than the note in Roxbury church records that she came in 1632 and married [Walter ] Palmer. The parents are clearly incorrect.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Steve, please provide a source that these parents are even possibly the parents of Rebecca Short. The fact that dates have been manipulated to make connections work is a clear indication they are wrong.

When it comes to Great Migration immigrants, we must have a source for parents. This will not make wikitree fall apart, it will make it immensely more accurate.

posted by Joe Cochoit
I object to disconnections merely due lack of proof. I would prefer to see proof of different parents or proof that these parents can't be hers. If we disconnected everything without proof, WT would fall apart. I would prefer to simply mark these parents as "uncertain".
posted by Steve Selbrede
I've now seen the source listing the source for these parents. They are unsourced and not proven. They should be removed. Objections?
posted by Anne B
I suspect these parents are unproven, but am on the waitlist for the 1986 book. Does anyone have legitimate sourcing for them?
posted by Anne B
Here's a profile that needs some work, any of you PMs have the time to "step up?"

Anything in the gedcom that is already in the bio (or you add to the bio) can be deleted.

If any PM has a subscripton to American Ancestors, I included two links to Great Migration Begins.

Good luck and have fun!  :-)

Short-2529 and Short-27 appear to represent the same person because: same husband and son, dates are unsupported on Short-2529, please use data on Short-27
posted by Robin Lee