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John Skipwith (abt. 1420 - 1478)

John Skipwith
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Died at about age 58 in St Albans, Hertfordshire, Englandmap
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The descendants of John Skipwith of St Albans and (blank) the daughter of Henry Godfrey are in the Visitation of Hertfordshire, 1572.[1]

In 1446 John Skypwyth of St Albans was a plaintiff for debt in Common Pleas. [2] John Skypwyth, of St Albans, Herts, gentleman, was the plaintiff in a case in Common Pleas in 1465. [3] In another case in Common Pleas in 1480, William Skypwyth, the son and executor of John Skypwyth of St Albans, gentleman, was the plaintiff. [4]

The will of John Skypwyth of St Albans, is dated 1477/8. (Hertford Record Office 2AR27) There is an abstract of this will in St Albans Wills 1471-1500:[5]

To be buried in St Peter's church where my (first) wife is buried. Residue to sons William and John Skypwyth. A tenement in St Peters Street to wife Katherine for her lifetime, then to remain to son John Skypwyth.


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  1. https://archive.org/details/visitationsofher222732cook/page/n37/mode/2up?view=theater
  2. http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no740/aCP40no740fronts/IMG_0544.htm
  3. http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1038.htm
  4. http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no871/bCP40no871dorses/IMG_1494.htm
  5. Page 38, Hertfordshire Record Publications, edited by Susan Flood




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Grand Parents John Skipwith + Alice Tilney William de Willoughby + Lucy le Strange John de Meppershall + Katherine de Broughton Parents Thomas Skipwith abt 1367 -- 30 NOV 1417 avatar Margery de Willoughby abt 1397 -- bef 1452 avatar Henry Godfrey abt 1395 -- aft 1477 avatar Joan Meppershall abt 1397 -- avatar Spouses

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Events Expand > John Skipwith Birth abt 1415 England, Yorkshire, Selby ⚑ More On This Location Links GENUKI County Page Death abt 1478 England, Hertfordshire, St Albans ⚑ More On This Location Links GENUKI County Page Aged: 63 years Ellen Godfrey Birth abt 1425 England, Bedford, Northll Add More On This Location Links GENUKI County Page Children First Name Birth Dt Death Dt Birth Place Spouses 1+ William abt 1450 1509 England, Hertfordshire, St Albans Joan Baldock Suggest To suggest changes to these records, login & edit by choosing options to edit, & your suggested changes will be saved for the record moderator to review. Sources Website: SOME NOTES ON MEDIEVAL ENGLISH GENEALOGY; Narrative pedigree of the Skipwith family of St Albans; ➤ Website: Rootsweb - Johanson Family Tree-Roots spreading from Sweden, Medieval England, Massachusetts, and South Carolina; Skipwith, Godfrey, Meppershall and allied families; ➤ Website: SOME NOTES ON MEDIEVAL ENGLISH GENEALOGY; Narrative pedigree of the Skipwith family of St Albans; ➤ Website: Rootsweb - Johanson Family Tree-Roots spreading from Sweden, Medieval England, Massachusetts, and South Carolina; Skipwith, Godfrey, Meppershall and allied families; ➤ Added 4-30-2011 10:51 AM 4-30-2011 10:52 AM Updated 8-16-2011 04:59 PM 8-16-2011 04:57 PM

http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/ski/skioutl.shtml

The accompanying chart and narrative pedigrees of the Skipwith families of of St Albans and Parkbury have been compiled from various sources, of which the most important are mentioned below.

Pedigrees A pedigree of seven generations was recorded at the Heralds' Visitation of Hertfordshire in 1572 (College of Arms MS G.17). (A version omitting the first generation and most of the heraldry was printed, from a copy in the Harleian manuscripts, in Harleian Society volume 22.) As discussed below, much of this pedigree seems to have been compiled on the evidence of monumental brasses in St Peter's Church, St Albans - apparently without too much scrutiny by the family - and the result is inaccurate in at least two important respects:

In the earliest generation, Richard Skipwith is shown, beside the date 1400, with a dash apparently indicating generations omitted between him and John Skipwith - who is shown 'married' in 1460. In fact, it seems likely that Richard was a younger son, rather than an ancestor, of John, and that he has erroneously been shifted back in time by nearly a century (see below). Thomas Skipwith (d.1558) is shown as the son of George Skipwith and his wife Mary Newport. In fact, contemporary evidence shows that Thomas was the son of George's subsequent wife, Alice, who does not appear in the Visitation pedigree. Nevertheless, I have assumed that the Visitation pedigree is accurate for the mid to late 16th century. Another pedigree, in Harleian MS 1412, fo.102b - apparently prepared in connection with a law suit in the 1630s - gives further details of the descendants of younger sons and the marriages of daughters. I have assumed these details are essentially accurate.

Origins of the family The most prominent Skipwiths in England were - and still are - the descendants of the medieval lords of Skipwith, in Yorkshire; they later lived in Lincolnshire and Leicestershire. The Skipwiths of St Albans presumably believed they shared the same descent, as in 1507 they were granted arms very similar to those of the Yorkshire Skipwiths. One of the later amplifications of the Visitation pedigree (in Harleian MS 1546, ff.81b-83) sets out explicitly the alleged connection, which begins - in the approved fashion of manufactured pedigrees - with a younger son of the established family. It duly includes a Richard Skipwith in 1400 as the grandfather of the first John Skipwith, so - if we accept that the heralds blundered - it is impossible as it stands. But some of the people mentioned are real, and it may contain some grains of truth.

The part of the alleged pedigree least likely to be untrue is the identification of John Skipwith's father as Thomas Skipwith of Selby, Yorkshire. To some extent this is confirmed, or at least made plausible, by other evidence:

John is placed as Thomas's third son. Thomas's second son is given as Robert, a monk at Selby, and such a monk's existence is attested in other sources in the 1430s and again in the 1460s (Harleian MS 669, cited in Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, vol.29; Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Association vol.13, p.348). Thomas's son and heir is another Thomas, whose heir is a son Richard, said to have died without issue. It is tempting to identify these men with Thomas Skipwith of Willitoft in the parish of Bubwith - about 8 miles from Selby - whose will of 1468 mentions a wife Joan and five unnamed children (York Registry, vol.4, p.58) and Richard Skipwith, also of Willitoft, whose will of 1479 mentions a wife Joan and a brother Robert (York Registry, vol.5, p.170). Richard is the only son of the younger Thomas shown in the pedigree, but the Skipwiths of Bubwith survived until the 16th century, and bore arms the same as - or at least similar to - those of Skipwith of Skipwith (Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Association vol.34, p.206). One further point is a possible identification for an impaled coat of arms on the visitation pedigree, which are probably those of the first wife of John Skipwith of St Albans. Of three possibilities in Papworth's Ordinary, one is the family of Freston of Altofts, in Yorkshire, who bore Argent a fess dancetty between three mullets vert (although other sources give different arms). As Altofts is only about 15 miles from Selby, this identification would be consistent with the 'Selby' pedigree.

According to https://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.php/John-Skipwith/p326775, the ancestors of John Skipwith are:

1. Thomas Skipwith abt 1367 -- 30 NOV 1417 Margery de Willoughby abt 1397 -- bef 1452

2. John Skipwith abt 1351 -- 15 JUL 1415 Alice Tilney abt 1356 --

William de Willoughby abt 1370 -- 4 DEC 1409 Lucy le Strange abt 1367 -- aft 28 APR 1398

3. William Skipwith Birth abt 1325 England, Yorkshire, Skipwith Death aft 1392

Alice Hiltoft Birth abt 1333 England, Lincolnshire, Ingoldmells


Robert de Willoughby Birth abt 1349 England, Lincolnshire, Eresby, Willoughby Manor Occup 1372-1396 4th Baron Of Willoughby De Eresby Death 9 AUG 1396 England, Lincolnshire, Spilsby Grave 1396 England, Lincolnshire, Spilsby, St James Churchyard Aged: 47.6 years

Alice Skipwith Birth 1355 England, Lincolnshire, Caistor, Bigby Death bef 1372 England, Lincolnshire, Horncastle Grave 1412 England, Lincolnshire, Spilsby, St James Churchyard


Roger Strange Birth abt 1326 England, Shropshire, Knockyn Occup 1349-1382 5th Baron Of Strange Death 23 AUG 1382 Wales, Kenewyleswode England, Shropshire, Shrewsbury, Black Friars Priory Aged: 56.6 years There is a discrepancy of 12 years on the estimated date of marriage of Roger Le Strange 5th Lord Strange of Knockyn to Aleyne fitz Alan. I originally followed the Worldroots Royal Family Genealogy Page source "Descendants of Charlemagne," as it appeared more careful and had more detail than the Le Strange Website, which is a family hobby site and has only bits of information. That Worldroots source is no longer online under that name.

Aline FitzAlan Birth abt 1325 England, Sussex, Arundel Death 20 JAN 1385 England, Shropshire, Knockyn Grave England, Shropshire, Shrewsbury, Black Friars Priory Aged: 60.1 years

4. William of Skipwith Birth abt 1291 England, Lincolnshire, Bigby Death aft 1337 Margaret Fitzsimon Birth abt 1300 England, Lincolnshire, Ormsby

5. John of Beaksby Skipwith Birth abt 1275 England, Lincolnshire, Bigby

Margaret Flinton Birth abt 1278 England, Yorkshire, Flinton

6. John of Skipwith Birth abt 1255 England, Yorkshire, Skipwith Death 1349 England, Lincolnshire, Wrawby Aged: 94 years

Isabel Arches

7. William of Skipwith Birth abt 1233 England, Yorkshire, Skipwith Death bef 1282 England, Lincolnshire, Bigby

Alice Thorpe Birth abt 1235 England, Lincolnshire, Kettelby Thorpe

8. Reginald Skipwith Birth abt 1187 England, Yorkshire, Skipwith

Death bef 1252

______ Beulieu Birth abt 1215 England, Yorkshire, Carleton

9. Jeffrey de Schypwith (He appears on Wikitree as Skipwith-57; https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Skipwith-57#Ancestors Birth abt 1163 England, Yorkshire, Skipwith Death bef 1205

Mariana Menithorpe Birth abt 1160 England, Yorkshire, Menethorpe

(Up to this point, stirnet concurs with this: https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ss4as/skipwith1.php )

10. Patrick of Skipwith Birth abt 1110 England, Yorkshire, Skipwith

Beatrice Langton Birth abt 1140 England, Yorkshire, Malton

11. Robert de Stuteville Birth abt 1075 England, Yorkshire, Cottingham Death AFT 1106 France, Normandy, Seine-Inferieure, Estuteville-Sur-Mer Aged: 31 years

Erneburga of Skipwith Birth abt 1075 England, Yorkshire, Cottingham

12. Robert II de Stuteville Birth abt 1040 France, Normandy, Seine-Inferieure, Estuteville-Sur-Mer Death abt 1107 England, Yorkshire, Cottingham Aged: 67 years

Blanche de Rieux Birth abt 1045 France, Picardie, Oise, Rieux

13. Robert de Stuteville Birth 1010 France, Normandy, Seine-Inferieure, Estuteville-Sur-Mer Death abt 1090 Aged: 80 years

Jeanne de Tallebot (her line includes the medieval French royals and goes back to Charlemagne)


14, Robert de Verdun Birth abt 0970 France, Normandy, Seine-Inferieure, Estuteville-Sur-Mer

posted by Susan (Cox) Scarcella O.A.M.
edited by Susan (Cox) Scarcella O.A.M.
SOURCE:

John Skipwith, citizen and draper of London [son of John Skipwith and Ellen Godfrey], dated 20 April and proved 30 August 1501 (Prerogative Court of Canterbury

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