James Spencer
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James C Spencer (1800 - 1872)

James C Spencer
Born in Burlington, Vermontmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married 1850 (to 1872) [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 72 in Elizabeth, NJ, USAmap
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Biography

Sources

  • Charts prepared by Clare King Fitzgerald

From the 1850 NY Census https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MCY8-GHZ

James C Spencer, "United States Census, 1850" Name: James C Spencer Event Type: Census Event Year: 1850 Event Place: Malone, Franklin, New York, United States Gender: Male Age: 49 Race: White Race (Original): Birth Year (Estimated): 1801 Birthplace: Vermont Household ID: 441 House Number: 429 Line Number: 11 Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Affiliate Publication Number: M432 Affiliate Film Number: 505 GS Film Number: 17081 Digital Folder Number: 004197478 Image Number: 00067 Household Gender Age Birthplace James C Spencer M 49 Vermont Emma A Spencer F 18 New York Sarah E Spencer F 16 New York Amelia N Spencer F 13 New York Cordelia Spencer F 10 New York

Other records available at this website indicate James C. Spencer was buried in Malone, NY, although he died in NJ.

1840 Census only gives number of males & females in Household & their ages. James C. Spencer's household: 2 males, 1 between the ages of 10 & 15 (this must be George, who is mentioned in James' will & who died before 1871), the other (presumably James)between 30 & 40; 6 females, 1 under 5, 2 between 5 & 10, 2 between 10 & 15, & 1 between 30 & 40 (oh for a name!)

Information from Biographical & HIstorical of Wayne & Apanoose Counties, Iowa (1886 Interstate Publishing Company, Chicago) (Pages 476-477) gives this information about James C. Spencer: he was a native of Burlington, Vermont, born in 1800. He died at his daughter's home in Elizabeth, NY on December 10, 1872. Link to book: https://play.google.com/books/reader?printsec=frontcover&output=reader&id=XlM0AQAAMAAJ&pg=GBS.PP1

According to this source, James Spencer was born in Massachusetts: https://archive.org/stream/historyofcalifor02guin/historyofcalifor02guin_djvu.txt

The 1870 Federal Census lists James as living in Malone, NY, with his wife Sarah (age 52) & son Charles (age 16). Sarah's birthplace is listed as Vermont; Charles' as New York.

They are also mentioned, as well as his daughters & 2 granddaughters (children of a deceased son, George) in his will dated 1871, which was probated in 1873, a few months after his death in 1872.





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This could not be the son of Epaphras and (Hulda/Huldah (Spencer) Spencer, as Hulda/Huldah remarried in 1791, after the death of Epaphras, to Nahum Joyner. They were from Connecticut and Vermont. Please disconnect him - thanks
posted by Patricia (Long) Kent
edited by Patricia (Long) Kent
Parent Candidates for James C. Spencer (b. abt. 1801, Vermont; d. 10 December 1872, Elizabeth, Union Co., New Jersey)

Evidence for Huldah Spencer (b. 1768, Hartford, Hartford Co., Connecticut; d. abt. 1836 in Malone, Franklin Co., New York) as mother: 1. A will for Huldah Spencer of Malone submitted to probate in 1836 appoints James C. Spencer of Malone as her executor, and lists her children as James C. Spencer and Mary Ann Williams. 2. Mary Ann Williams is a plausible younger sister for James C. Spencer: a. Census listings suggest that she was born in Vermont in about 1811. b. She was a resident of Malone, the wife of Elias Williams. c. James C. Spencer and “Elias Williams and wife” are the only witnesses called out among the 40 witnesses in Rev. Ashbel Parmalee’s record of the marriage of Sarah E. Spencer and James S. Pallady (http://www.newyorkroots.org/franklin/mar/parm/myers-parmalee.html; thanks, Kelly!) 3. The 1820 census listing for Huldah Spencer in Malone lists 4 males of 10-16 and one female under 10, so both James C. and Mary Ann could have been part of this household. 4. In James C. Spencer’s will, Millie is listed as Huldah A. Spencer. Evidence for Epaphras Spencer (b. 21 November 1762, Hartford, Hartford Co., Connecticut; d. abt. 1814 in Malone, Franklin Co., New York) as husband of Huldah and father of James: 1. A compilation of Spencer research published in volume 28 of The American Genealogist (p. 63 and p. 113) indicates that Epaphras Spencer, the son of Elijah Spencer and Mary Spencer, b. 21 November 1762, and Huldah Spencer, the daughter of Asahel Spencer and Mabel Church, b. bef. 6 March 1768, were married c. 1785 and were resident in Middlebury, Vermont by 1801. There are no citations for the evidence that’s listed, but census listings for the Epaphras Spencer household in 1790 (in Hartford), 1800 (in Middlebury), and 1810 (in Middlebury) are consistent with these claims. 2. In 1815, Huldah Spencer and Henry Waterhouse of Malone petitioned the Franklin County surrogate to be listed as administrators for the estate of Epaphras Spencer of Malone. Questions • Is there any documentary evidence to support the claims in The American Genealogist? • Why are no other children of Epaphras and Huldah Spencer listed in Huldah’s will? Census listings from 1790-1820 all include children and young adults that seem likely to be older siblings of James and Mary Ann, as would be likely for a couple married in about 1785. • Who is Henry Waterhouse? Not only is he co-administrator of Epaphras’ estate, but Huldah petitioned to be named administrator of his estate during the year before her own death as she was one of his creditors, and the money owed to her from that estate forms part of her bequests in her own will. He was married to a Lucinda Spencer; it’s not clear whether she was a relative. Miscellany • There is a Huldah (Oakes) Spencer of a similar age who was the widow of a Revolutionary War vet named Thomas Spencer; they settled in nearby Moira, New York. I determined that this Huldah didn’t have children of the right names and ages to be James and Mary Ann. Thomas, however, seems to have been the brother of Epaphras. • There is a slightly younger James C. Spencer (1826-1902) who was associated with Fort Covington in Franklin County, but he was the son of James B. Spencer and Sally Clark. • Not many Ancestry family trees list either Epaphras or Huldah Spencer. Listings for Epaphras that include children tend to conflate him with a Lewis Spencer, which provides a wholly different list of children. Listings for Huldah that include children generally provide her with a different spouse and different children.

posted by Kelly Fitzgerald
"New York Deaths and Burials, 1795-1952," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F69R-G28 : 29 December 2014), James C. Spencer, 10 Dec 1872; citing New York, New York, reference p 90; FHL microfilm 1,671,687.
posted by Kelly Fitzgerald
A tentative identity as to James C. Spencer's parents has been made: Epaphras Spencer & Huldah Spencer, based on probate & other records. We are still reviewing these records to determine if we have the correct family.
posted by Kelly Fitzgerald
I have been contacted by another descendant of James C. Spencer, this one a descendant of his daughter Hellen Serena Spencer Brown. She has uncovered his last will & testament which was probated in Malone NY. It mentions his second wife, Sarah W? H? and a son Charles who apparently at the time he wrote his will was not yet 21. He also named all of his daughters, as well as his granddaughters by another son who predeceased him, George Spencer.
posted by Kelly Fitzgerald
Another source: https://books.google.com/books?idXlM0AQAAMAAJ&pgPA476&lpgPA476&dqjohn+melville+pallady&sourcebl&otsw964X8tFcc&sigA7ygflLTauWvDdlg9U4lYCbHyW4&hlen&saX&eiK_DoVMjTFYjksAT_0oLQDw&ved0CDsQ6AEwBA#vonepage&qjohn%20melville%20pallady&ffalse
posted by Kelly Fitzgerald

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