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John Stewart

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Sir John Stewart aka Lord of Lorn and Innermeath
Born about in Drumlanrig Castle, Durisdeer, Nithsdale, Dumfriesshire, Scotlandmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married in Argyllshire, Scotlandmap
Died in Lorne, Argyllshire, Scotlandmap [uncertain]
11 August 2015
13:23: James McDonald edited the Biography for John Stewart. [Thank James for this]
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Biography

m. Isabel MacDougall de Ergardia


Sir John Stewart of Innermeath. "He exchanged with his brother Robert the lands of Durrisdeer for the lordship of Lorn, to which the latter succeeded through his wife Janet De Ergadia. He is designed Lord Of Lorn in 1407. Douglas and the older writers state that his wife was Isobel De Ergadia, daughter and co-heiress of Eugene, or John, Lord Of Lorn. This has been doubted by Mr. Sinclair and Mr Joseph Bain. But they do not seem to have noticed that his wife's name was certainly Isobel, that she died 21 December 1439, and that her son James, the Black Knight of Lorn, needed a dispensation to allow him to marry the Queen-Dowager Joanna Beaufort, being 'within the third and third and fourth and fourth, and the third and fourth degree of consanguinity and affinity,' relationships which can be reconciled with the statement of Douglas, as the wife of John, Lord Of Lorn, was Joanna, daughter of Thomas De Ysak and Matilda, daughter of King Robert I (Bruce). John Stewart, Knight, Lord Of Lorn, 'kinsman of Robert, Duke Of Albany' and Isabella his wife obtained from Benedict XIII, anti-pope a dispensation dated at Peniscola 23 December 1418 for a plenary indulgence at the hour of death, for licence to choose a confessor, and for a portable altar. He died 26 April 1421."[1]

The above statement of a very complicated marriage dispensation is critical for the general establishment of the line between King Robert I and this John Stewart.


"John (Sir), Lord of Lorn in right of his wife (her sister and coheir having married his younger brother Robert, who resigned his share of Lorn in exchange for the lands of Durrisdeer 1388); inherited from father feudal Barony of Innermeath; Ambassador to England and France 1412; married Isabel of Argyll, daughter and coheir of Eoin, Lord of Lorn, Chief of Clan Dougall (heir of the local dynasts of Argyll), and died 26 April 1421, having had, with three daughters (Christian, married James Dundas of that Ilk; Isabel, married 1st Sir William Oliphant of Aberdalgy and 2nd Sir David Murray of Tullibardine; Jean, married Sir David Bruce of Clackmannan)." [2]

He eas styled Lord of Lorn by 1407.[3]

They had five sons Robert, Archibald, James, Alexander, and possibly John, and three daughters Christian, Isabel, and Jean.[3] Listed son William is probably a mistake for William Oliphant, additional husband of daughter Isabel. This needs correction.

Sources

  1. Sir James Balfour Paul, Editor, 1908, The Scots Peerage, founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Published by David Douglas, Edinburgh, Scotland, Vol. 5 p. 2
  2. Burke's Peerage, 1938 and earlier editions
  3. 3.0 3.1 Douglas Richardson, "Magna Carta Ancestry 1st edition" , Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 2005. p 779. Also "Royal Ancestry", Vol. 5 p p. 40-41
  • Source: Cawley, Charles. "STEWART of LORN, (Robert Stewart)." Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Medieval Lands, A Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families. Accessed February 13, 2015.

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Collaboration

On June 26, 2015 at 15:25GMT James McDonald wrote:

Cleaned up accreted multiple copies of info. All that's there now appears in text appears correct except possible bogus won William.

On March 24, 2015 at 03:53GMT Elizabeth Winter wrote:

Lord of Lorne-1 and Stewart-1170 are not ready to be merged because: Needs specialized attention to resolve LNAB conflict.

On February 13, 2015 at 21:58GMT Eugene Quigley wrote:

Lord of Lorne-1 and Stewart-1170 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be the same person - please merge.

On December 31, 2012 at 20:03GMT Sheri Sturm wrote:

Many duplications for Isobel Egardia led to me finding a conflict. If she was born 1362, she cannot be the mother of a child born 1366. She is shown being married to at two two men of the same name, but many decades apart. She probably is one of these ladies.



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