Sir John was the natural son of King Robert III[1][2][3][4][5][6] and an unknown mistress, (possibly by a daughter of Sir Archibald Campbell of Lochow).[7]
His birth date is suggested to be around or as early as 1355 in some derivative sources. [8] A date of death around 1412 or 1413 at Blackhall has been cited by some sources. [8][7]
He is an ancestor of the Shaw-Stewarts of Ardgowan and Blackhall. [6] This John is also the ancestor of many other Stewarts including Kildonan, Castle Levin, and Newark.[4] Auchingowan, Carnock, Christwell, Gask, Greenock, Kincarachy, Kirkwood, Lumloch, Newton, Pardovan, Scotstoun, Steuarthall and Wester Polmaise
Timeline
1390 - John received charter for the lands of Auchingowan (Auchingoun) in Renfrewshire. [1][2][5]
1395 (Dec 12) - John received by royal charter signed by Dundonald for the lands of Blackhall in Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire. [6][1][2][3][5]
1403 - John received charter for the lands of Ardgowan in Renfrewshire. [6][1][2][3][5] He also rebuilt the castle at Ardowan. [4]
Family
John's wife is unknown. He had two known children:
Margaret, who was the second wife of Sir Duncan Campbell of Lochow, son of Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow, Argyllshire & his wife Mariot Campbell.[5]
John, who inherited the Barony of Blackhall from his father in 1414. [7] He married Elizabeth Lyle, daughter of Sir Robert Lyle, who later became 1st Lord Lyle[1] He passed away about 1442. [7]
Similar John Stewarts
There are at least two notable John Stewarts in Scotland in the latter half of the 14th century to the early part of the 15th century. One was a son of Alexander Stewart of Darnley who is documented as WikiTree profile Stewart-2351. John Stewart, the natural (illegitimate) son of Robert III, King of the Scots is the subject of this WikiTree profile.
"The Scots Peerage : Founded On Wood's Ed. Of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage Of Scotland; Containing An Historical And Genealogical Account Of The Nobility Of That Kingdom : Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". 2021. Internet Archive. Sir John Stewart, Vol I, pg 18
The Place of Blackhall – the Story of eight centuries," Janet S. Bolton, Stewart Society Journal-Vol. XVIII N° 3
The Stewarts of Blackhall and Ardgowan," J.L. Olar BA, Journal of Ancient and Medieval Studies: The Octavian Society, 1997–2000
From Royal Stewart to Shaw Stewart," Janet S. Bolton, Nenufra Publications 1989
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
Y-chromosome DNA test-takers in his direct paternal line on WikiTree:
Basil Stewart :
AncestryDNA Paternal Lineage (discontinued) 47 markers, haplogroup R1b, Ancestry member BasilStewart, MitoYDNA ID A10718[compare]
Regarding the rank, title, and status of the Stewarts of Blackhall, Ardgowan, and Auchingowan: I see that this and subsequent generations have been described as "Lords" of Blackhall and Ardgowan. That title, however, can be misleading, because it sounds like a claim that these Stewarts were Parliamentary Lords or held a titled peerage, whereas in fact they were feudal lords -- that is, "lairds," not "Lords." And of course later they were created Baronets. This family has never held any title of greater rank or dignity than Baronet. They have never been "Lords," though, only "lairds." I have therefore changed "Lord" to "laird" in the generations from 1500 onward. As I am not Pre-1500 certified, I request that someone who is will edit the pre-1500 generations of this family to make clear that they were not Parliamentary Lords or Peers.
In the past few years I have been able to get three second hand copies of Janet Bolton’s book. In the book I discovered an error where John Stewart (1634-1658) the 13th laird is shown as having married Barbara Scott of Clerkington. Barbara was married to David Stewart of Mearns, the son of Sir Archibald Stewart (1589-1665) by his second marriage to Lady Margaret Home. The progenitor of my illegitimate line was the 13th laird with a domestic servant. This line is the High Park Stewarts of Kintyre.
Hello Donald. I would be interested in seeing your source(s) for Barbara Scott's marriage of David Stewart. It has long been stated in published sources (not just Janet Bolton) that John Stewart, 13th laird, married Barbara Scott, daughter of Sir William Scott of Clerkington, and that after his death in 1658, Barbara remarried to Sir William Drummond of Hawthornden. See, for example, this earlier edition of Burke's (the 2003 edition says the same thing, though):
Of course the peerage case of Lady Clerkington against Stewart (20 July 1664) refers to David Stewart's contract of marriage, but the abstract of the case in Morison is difficult to interpret on who "the defender's daughter" was. One would not think it was Lady Clerkington's daughter, as Lady Clerkington was not the defender in this case, but rather the caller and pursuer. But as I haven't examined the original documents on which Morison's abstract is based, I cannot reach any conclusion on that question.
Thanks Jared. Yes my evidence is the Lady Clerkington against Stewart case dated 20 July 1664. Also Barbara Scott’s will dated 1726. She had been receiving an income from the mills of Mearns as a result of her contract of marriage with her first husband ‘......... Stewart of Mearns’. She married her second husband in 1663 so I don’t believe she waited 5 years from 1658 to remarry.
Yes, that is very compelling evidence. It could be that an earlier peerage writer misinterpreted the data regarding Barbara's first marriage, and then subsequent writers repeated that error. When Mrs. Bolton wrote her family history using the muniments then at Ardgowan House, she likely relied on an "official" Shaw Stewart pedigree chart to arrange the materials for her book.
It would not be the only error that made it into her book -- she also conflated Robert Lyle of Duchal (1st Lord Lyle) with Robert Boyd of Duchal (later 1st Lord Boyd of Kilmarnock) in her account of the 1445 Stewart of Ardgowan murder. But then the Auchinleck Chronicle's account is ambiguous on who the "laird of Duchal" was who led the attack. Prof. McGladdery holds that both Lyle and Boyd participated in the murder.
I see here in Burke's Commoners, Vol. 3, p.171, that Barbara Scott's first husband is identified merely as "a son of Stewart, of Blackhall." The identification of that unnamed son as the elder grandson, John, must have come after 1838, then.
Sir Archibald Stewart (1589-1665) bought Mearns in 1657 so Barbara’s marriage to David Stewart could not have been earlier than this. Her father Sir William Scott died in Dec. 1656 so he must have set his daughter’s tocher of 10,000 marks before he died. The case dated 20 July 1664 states, ‘and Blackhall granted a proportional life-rent thereto’. This life-rent would have been from the lands of Mearns as detailed in her will of 1726.
Indeed, and I'd surmise that Sir Archibald probably purchased Mearns specifically to provide lands and an income for David and Barbara.
And with these dates you've supplied, it also means that John, 13th laird, would not be "a son of Stewart, of Blackhall," since his father John had already died by 1657. "Blackhall" in 1657 was Sir Archibald, not Sir Archibald's eldest son John.
Does anyone know what evidence there is that Sir John married Janet Sempill? Bolton's book does not name his wife, as she was unable to determine her identity.
I cannot find any evidence of a wife. If you check the Janet's profile it only has one Burke source from 1938 that is under copyright still and not yet available. I checked 1925 Burke and did not Janet mentioned as a wife. I spent a fair amount time scrubbing this profile as it has been conflated with another prominent John Stewart. I went through every source and built timelines and inlines references for most assertions. I don't believe I ever found a wife.
Thanks for the note. I will update the article if no one one else does. I am actually interested also in the Shaw Stewart connection. My Scottish interests stem from my grandmother Juanita Porterfield. Her line seems to back to the Porterfields of Duchal estate near KIlmacolm, Renfrewshire, Scotland. As the Porterfield line died out on the male line, the estate fell in the Stewart-Shaw family through a female Porterfield connection starting with Michael Robert Shaw-Stewart Bt. (1826 - 1903) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shaw-Stewart-9.
Anyway, do you know where I can buy the book "From Royal Stewart to Shaw Stewart,"? I tried the normal sources. The closest library appears to be Guelph, Ontario which is a bit of a drive from Chicago area (but I' love to go back)
I acquired my copy of Bolton's book from a book shoppe in Greenock back in 1993. After all these years I imagine it is out of print and no doubt hard to obtain.
There is an error in the following statement above:
"John, who inherited the Barony of Blackhall from his father in 1414. [7] He married Elizabeth Lyle, daughter of Sir Robert Lyle, who later became 1st Lord Lyle[1] He passed away about 1442. [7]"
John, the son and heir of the first Sir John Stewart of Blackhall, Ardgowan, and Auchigoun, did NOT marry Elizabeth Lyle. Rather, as J. S. Bolton relates in her book "From Royal Stewart to Shaw Stewart," it was John, 4th of Blackhall, etc., who married Elizabeth Lyle. The first Sir John (illegitimate son of King Robert III) had a son John, whose son was James (murdered in 1445), whose son John married Elizabeth Lyle. Bolton, a family friend of the Shaw Stewarts of Ardgowan, was given full access to the family's records, and her genealogy is to be highly trusted unless positively found to be in error by contrary evidence.
Making Elizabeth Lyle a daughter-in-law of the first Sir John Stewart also makes no chronological sense, as Elizabeth's father Robert, 1st Lord Lyle, died in 1470, while Elizabeth's alleged father-in-law died circa 1413. Sir John's great-grandson John, however, died circa 1493, which makes him a perfect chronological match for Elizabeth Lyle.
The John of profile Stewart-1721 has elements of two different individuals. Since a profile already exists for John Stewart of Darnley (Stewart-2351), I suggest this profile be used as the natural son of Robert III. I have added a discussion that describes in detail the differences between these two people along with a proposed sourced Biography.
edited by Jared Olar
https://archive.org/details/b3136410x/page/1885/mode/1up?view=theater
cf. also --
https://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ss4as/scott12.php
Of course the peerage case of Lady Clerkington against Stewart (20 July 1664) refers to David Stewart's contract of marriage, but the abstract of the case in Morison is difficult to interpret on who "the defender's daughter" was. One would not think it was Lady Clerkington's daughter, as Lady Clerkington was not the defender in this case, but rather the caller and pursuer. But as I haven't examined the original documents on which Morison's abstract is based, I cannot reach any conclusion on that question.
edited by Jared Olar
It would not be the only error that made it into her book -- she also conflated Robert Lyle of Duchal (1st Lord Lyle) with Robert Boyd of Duchal (later 1st Lord Boyd of Kilmarnock) in her account of the 1445 Stewart of Ardgowan murder. But then the Auchinleck Chronicle's account is ambiguous on who the "laird of Duchal" was who led the attack. Prof. McGladdery holds that both Lyle and Boyd participated in the murder.
edited by Jared Olar
https://books.google.com/books?id=yshsAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=Barbara,+daughter+of+Sir+William+Scott+of+Clerkington&source=bl&ots=rhQwMuqvX7&sig=ACfU3U29N9g1H3eOlvQu8DCgK0d74tYdpg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjBmNjQ7I70AhXDW80KHTm5D8E4ChDoAXoECBEQAw#v=onepage&q=Barbara%2C%20daughter%20of%20Sir%20William%20Scott%20of%20Clerkington&f=false
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And with these dates you've supplied, it also means that John, 13th laird, would not be "a son of Stewart, of Blackhall," since his father John had already died by 1657. "Blackhall" in 1657 was Sir Archibald, not Sir Archibald's eldest son John.
edited by Jared Olar
Thanks for the note. I will update the article if no one one else does. I am actually interested also in the Shaw Stewart connection. My Scottish interests stem from my grandmother Juanita Porterfield. Her line seems to back to the Porterfields of Duchal estate near KIlmacolm, Renfrewshire, Scotland. As the Porterfield line died out on the male line, the estate fell in the Stewart-Shaw family through a female Porterfield connection starting with Michael Robert Shaw-Stewart Bt. (1826 - 1903) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shaw-Stewart-9.
Anyway, do you know where I can buy the book "From Royal Stewart to Shaw Stewart,"? I tried the normal sources. The closest library appears to be Guelph, Ontario which is a bit of a drive from Chicago area (but I' love to go back)
Marty Acks
"John, who inherited the Barony of Blackhall from his father in 1414. [7] He married Elizabeth Lyle, daughter of Sir Robert Lyle, who later became 1st Lord Lyle[1] He passed away about 1442. [7]"
John, the son and heir of the first Sir John Stewart of Blackhall, Ardgowan, and Auchigoun, did NOT marry Elizabeth Lyle. Rather, as J. S. Bolton relates in her book "From Royal Stewart to Shaw Stewart," it was John, 4th of Blackhall, etc., who married Elizabeth Lyle. The first Sir John (illegitimate son of King Robert III) had a son John, whose son was James (murdered in 1445), whose son John married Elizabeth Lyle. Bolton, a family friend of the Shaw Stewarts of Ardgowan, was given full access to the family's records, and her genealogy is to be highly trusted unless positively found to be in error by contrary evidence.
Making Elizabeth Lyle a daughter-in-law of the first Sir John Stewart also makes no chronological sense, as Elizabeth's father Robert, 1st Lord Lyle, died in 1470, while Elizabeth's alleged father-in-law died circa 1413. Sir John's great-grandson John, however, died circa 1493, which makes him a perfect chronological match for Elizabeth Lyle.
edited by Jared Olar