Frances Stout was born about 1700 and died after July 1748. She married Job Throckmorton II, son of Job I and Sarah Leonard Throckmorton, in 1720. Bill Barton on his tree in "We Relate" gives a birth year 1696, death year 1750 and marriage year 1720. [1] He cites Stillwell, Throckmorton and Sitherwood as sources, however, in the research note below he differs with them regarding the name of her parents.[2][3][4]
They were the parents of:
1. Sarah b Nov 1 1721, d Feb 1 1761, m Daniel Grandin, her first cousin, Sep 20 1749
2. Mary d before 1755, m Reuben Foster Jun 21 1750
3. John b 1724
4. William b Jan 27 1730 emigrated to Berkeley County, (W)V
5. Thomas d 1763
6. David baptized May 11 1735, d before 1755
7. Daniel baptized Feb 9 1746
8. Job III baptized Feb 9 1746, d after 1755
9. Rebecca b ~1742/43, baptized Feb 9 1746, m ~1765 as second wife of Charles Demoss
10. Lewis baptized Feb 9 1746, d after 1755
11. Joseph baptized Aug 9 1746, d before 1763.
Job III, Lewis, Daniel, Joseph and Rebecca were baptized February 9 1746. All of her siblings except David who had, most likely, died received inheritance from Sarah Nichols their sister. Her will written March 27 1755 and proved July 1 1755.[5] David was not named in the will or in Thomas his brother's, will and was thought to have died young. Sarah's husband, Daniel Grandin. is named instead of her in her aunt's will. Daniel was an executor and Sarah Nichols' nephew twice, her sister's son and husband of her brother's daughter. [6][7][8]
Research Notes
Who Frances Stout's parents were who married Job Throckmorton II, son of Job I and Sarah Leonard Throckmorton, is not certain. John E Stilwell concludes that she was the grandchild of Richard II and Frances Heath West Stout based on her birth/marriage and geographic location with which Frances Grimes Sitherwood appears to agree, who had the John Throckmorton Bible, versus that of John and Elizabeth Crawford Stout as given by Herald Stout. Stillwell gives a birth date for Job as 1690-95 and a marriage date for them of 1712. Given this he concludes that this Frances Stout is more likely one of Richard and Frances Stout's grandchildren. [9][10][11][12]
As noted above in the biography Bill Barton cited above in the biography names the parents as John and Elizabeth Crawford Stout. His source was Herald F Stout's 1986 edition of "Stout and Allied Families."
Research Note and Rationale for no merge with Stout-4181
The Find A Grave Memorial #16629068 is a unknown burial memorial with faulty dates. It gives her a birth date of 1686 and is unsourced. Most likely it not correct for this Frances Stout who passed away about 1750. Above is a record of the children and a baptized date of August 26 1746 for Joseph, the last child. If she was born in 1686 she would have given birth at the age of sixty. Most of the authors cited above agree this Frances was born about 1700 or 1696 and that it was most likely not possible for her to give birth at age 60 a merge is not possible with Stout-4181. The memorial also names John and Elizabeth Crawford Stout as her parents which is disputed by Stilwell and Sitherwood as cited above.
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WikiTree profile Stout-899 created through the import of Stough Family Tree.ged on Nov 2, 2011 by Lindsay Coleman. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Lindsay and others.
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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Frances by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Frances:
Bio says she married Job but here shes attached to Joseph. Theres a merge just proposed for two Josephs.if that merge goes through it will mess up the kids.
Removed John and Elizabeth Crawford Stout as parents. Please review the sources on Frances Stout Throckmorton profile Stout-240. Check the sources for John and Elizabeth to verify they are, most likely, not her parents.
The reason they have the low numbers because they had the current name as Throckmorton on Rebecca. As for Frances been working on this with RC since Nov 2016--just checked the changes file.
Sharon
I am not the PM and cannot close the merges. There are two Williams, two Mary Foster and 3 Rebecca--just found another. I have asked for merges for all three of them. I am doing the work according to wikitree and can only change what I can change. I have communicated with RC, the PM who got the info on the BD from FAG, unsourced. I have sources in #4181. So if you can help--Help!
Sharon, I think you are making too much of the findagrave data. It is a non-cemetery burial, so it is just somebody's idea of what they want it to be.
But before you moved the child Rebecca to be a duplicate child on this mother of the same name, it was clearly intended to be the same person, and so should be merged.
The child Rebecca will also have to be merged, but when you split up families and move children around like that, the chain of matches becomes less clear to work with. So we just end up with a lot of extra floating garbage, rather than merging things down as they were intended to be the same, but with some faulty alternate data points to simply make note of.
Stout-4181 and Stout-240 appear to represent the same person because: Another newly created duplicate that needs to be merged into the older sourced profile. Thanks!
Stout-240 and Stout-2061 appear to represent the same person because: Her husband Job Throckmorton only had 1 wife named Frances Stout. Lindsay, Why does your Frances say born in NY? According to Stout-81 Her father John moved to NJ in the 1660's?
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Removed John and Elizabeth Crawford Stout as parents. Please review the sources on Frances Stout Throckmorton profile Stout-240. Check the sources for John and Elizabeth to verify they are, most likely, not her parents.
The reason they have the low numbers because they had the current name as Throckmorton on Rebecca. As for Frances been working on this with RC since Nov 2016--just checked the changes file. Sharon
I am not the PM and cannot close the merges. There are two Williams, two Mary Foster and 3 Rebecca--just found another. I have asked for merges for all three of them. I am doing the work according to wikitree and can only change what I can change. I have communicated with RC, the PM who got the info on the BD from FAG, unsourced. I have sources in #4181. So if you can help--Help!
But before you moved the child Rebecca to be a duplicate child on this mother of the same name, it was clearly intended to be the same person, and so should be merged.
The child Rebecca will also have to be merged, but when you split up families and move children around like that, the chain of matches becomes less clear to work with. So we just end up with a lot of extra floating garbage, rather than merging things down as they were intended to be the same, but with some faulty alternate data points to simply make note of.