Jane Stradling, daughter of Thomas Stradling, Esq., of St. Donat's, Glamorgan and Janet, daughter of Thomas Mathew, Esq.,[1] married "William Griffith, Knt., of Penrhyn, Caernarvonshire, Esquire of the Body to King Henry VIII, Chamberlain of North Wales, Deputy Justice of North Wales, son and heir by his father's 1st marriage, born about 1480."[2]
William Griffith and Jane Stradling.[2] Their marriage date is not known. They almost certainly married in Wales where both families lived. They had five sons and eight daughters.[2]
Margaret Griffith, married (1) Peter Mytton, (2) Thomas Griffith, (3) Hugh Thelwall[2]
Death
Jane died in Wales[2] before 1520. William Griffith married (2nd) Jane Puleston, daughter of John Puleston, Esq., and widow of Robert ap Maredudd, of Glynllifon, Caermarvonshire (by marriage settlement dated 2 August 1522.[2]
Jane Stradling, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed September 11, 2015), citations included Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 560; Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 243, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, pp. 207-208; Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, pp. 345-346; Vol. V, pp 56-57
The Bartrum Project (digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum), accessed 31 January 2018
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ah - found the out-of-order profile for Catherine with the 1497 birth year. Richardson lists Grace first among the 8 daughters; Catherine he lists 4th, but Dorothy he lists 7th, then calls her 4th daughter in the next entry (William is Coytemore #13., daughter by Stradling Dorothy Griffith is #14, but no dates), so who knows.
P.S. I didn't reply to your question about location on William's profile because I struggle with dates for these families (there are precious few given in reliable sources) and I also struggle with locations... I was hoping someone else would answer. If no one does, perhaps you could ask in G2G (tagged both Cymru & Magna_Carta and Wales also).
Stuart - If I remember my Brother Cadfael correctly (heck of a source, I know), Welsh laws were different regarding children born out-of-wedlock. But I can't find a source that gives birth dates for the children. Maybe the 1495ish date is based on the "2 years per child" estimating guide some people follow? Richardson says they had 13 children & she died before 1520 (so, subtract 26 years to get date for first child=1495ish). The 1502 marriage in the profile appears to be from an Ancestry member's tree (which I was surprised to see on a Magna Carta Project profile).
Do you have a better source for the 1502 marriage date? Richardson doesn't give one in Coytemore #13 entry (Vol I, MCA) & Bartrum doesn't have a date either. Guess would normally be later (based on b c1480 for him).
I have found consistent mention that William Griffith married Jane Stradling in 1502. I am curious because they are also mentioned as having their eldest daughter in 1495 or 1496 or 1497. If these facts are correct Jane would have been about 15, 16 or 17 at Catherine's birth and they did not marry for a further 5, 6 or 7 years. I am not saying this did not happen, but I would like to find stronger sources than I have so far discovered. The aristocracy, I always understood, had strict behavioural rules for acceptance of illegitimate children, which meant they were often not entitled to the same privileges as legitimate ones. Maybe this was waived if the parents subsequently married each other?
Stradling-196 and Stradling-33 appear to represent the same person because: duplicate of Stradling-33 - please merge (and after duplicates of her husband are merged, please merge duplicates of her daughter & on down the line). Thanks!
The Magna Carta Project has no evidence that Mary was the daughter of Thomas Stradling & Jenett Mathews If you have reliable sources please let us know.
Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, (2011), Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 118.
P.S. I didn't reply to your question about location on William's profile because I struggle with dates for these families (there are precious few given in reliable sources) and I also struggle with locations... I was hoping someone else would answer. If no one does, perhaps you could ask in G2G (tagged both Cymru & Magna_Carta and Wales also).
Do you have a better source for the 1502 marriage date? Richardson doesn't give one in Coytemore #13 entry (Vol I, MCA) & Bartrum doesn't have a date either. Guess would normally be later (based on b c1480 for him).
Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, (2011), Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), volume IV, page 118.