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Hans Michael Stumpf (1708 - 1768)

Hans Michael Stumpf aka Stumpff
Born in Ederbach, Hessen ,Darmstadt, Germanymap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 59 in Hampshire County, Virginiamap
Profile last modified | Created 2 Dec 2008
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Update July 16, 2020

This Michael Stumpf represents the Michael Stumpf that was born in Germany.

NOT the Michael Stump who married Anna Catherine Neff in Pennsylvania in 1739.

Research note Could not find a baptism record in church book of Eberbach. Besides his supposed parents had another son born in Nov 1706 in Eberbach.[1] Therefore it´s very likely that the wrong parents are attached to this profile.

Biography

There is considerable debate amongst Stump genealogists around the Hans Michael Stump(f) who was the founder of the Stump line in Hampshire County, Virginia (the future Hardy/Grant/Hampshire Counties of West Virginia). The debate revolves around both who his wife Catherine was, and who his father was. There are at least two, and potentially three, documented Hans Michael Stumpfs in Tulpehocken Township, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in/about 1745. We know of one married to a Maria Catherine, another to an Anna Catherine (Caterina). Both wives appear to have gone by the name “Catherine” in documentation, as both Hans Michaels went by “Michael”. The only “certainty” is that the Michael married to Maria Catherine was a recent immigrant. The father of Anna Catherine’s husband is debated, as well. Because this is not fully settled, the state of the research is provided below, to hopefully guide future researchers and prevent re-inventing the wheel.

This Michael Stumpf is the immigrant Michael Stumpf, from the ship Phoenix, arriving in 1743. Not to be confused with the Michael Stump who was born in the Schoharie Valley around 1715, and married Anna Catherine Neff in Pennsylvania in 1739.[2] There is no way the immigrant Michael could have been married in America if he came over in 1743.[3]

Michael Stumpf confusion

Hans is an Immigrant, Sometimes Reported Married to Maria Catherine Stump

This appears to be the most commonly accepted genealogy, likely in large part due to the work of Thurmond Stump in his work “Michael Stump Sr. of Virginia, 1709-1768, A Treatise On The Origin And Ancestry With Surname Armorials.”[4] This Hans Michael was documented as arriving in Philadelphia on the Palatine immigrant vessel Phoenix on 30 Sep 1743. He is listed on the ship’s “List B”, which was for adult males over the age of 16 who swore an oath of allegiance to the English king.[5]

The basis of his wife's identification in this scenario appears to come from a record[6] that lists a "Maria Catharina" as wife, as well as a daughter of the same name. This same family appears in baptismal records available in the Familysearch.org database[7] documenting the christening of Maria Catharina the younger on 22 Oct 1741 in Wuerttemberg. There is also a family bible for George Stump (b. 1745) which has been photocopied with a typewritten but unsourced and clearly not contemporary note claiming he is descended from a Maria Catharine. However, this full family of immigrant Stumps are shown in both the immigration and christening records as spelling their names "Stumpp", while the signature of the Phoenix Hans Michael is written "Stumpf", which is carried over into known descendants. Therefore, there does not appear to be any information supporting the idea that Hans Michael Stumpf late of the vessel Phoenix was married to a Maria Catherine.

Hans' father is Unknown, Married to Anna Catarina Neff

An alternative to the common genealogy is proposed by David Armstrong[8], who documents strong circumstantial evidence that the Michael Stump who married Anna Catarina Neff on 10 Sep 1739[9] is this Hans Michael. The reasoning comes via information on Anna Catarina's family. Immigration records show a young Anna Catherine arrived in Pennsylvania in 1728 with her parents Michael and Anna Dorothea Saur, and brothers Johann Michael, Johann Jacob, Georg Abraham, and Hans Leonhard[10]. Ships records indicate that on the same vessel her family arrived, the "James Goodwill", so too was Johann Casper Stoever (Steffer)[11]. Reverend Stoever was, according to Thurmond Stump (p. 13), an itinerant Pennsylvania Dutch minister, who would later conduct Catherine's marriage. The connection to Hampshire County's Hans is evidenced from survey records that show the lot next to Michael and Catherine Stump is owned by a Leonard Neff, who was also witness to Michael's will.

This Hans Michael is sometimes believed to be the son of Christopher Stump and Anna Margaretha. However, that Michael is listed as devisee to his father's will in 1769, a year after Hampshire County's Hans' death. As of this time, there does not appear to be solid evidence for Hans Michael's father.

Sources

  1. Church book Eberbach, Baden: Landeskirchliches Archiv Karlsruhe > Eberbach > Mischbuch Juni 1659 - 1720 [1]
  2. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
  3. Find A Grave: Memorial #86180044 Hans Michael Stumpf I (1720-1768)
  4. http://www.wvgenweb.org/hardy/stump/mstitle.htm
  5. Pennsylvania German Pioneers, Pages xxi and xxii
  6. GERBER, ADOLF. "Emigrants from Wuerttemberg: The Adolf Gerber Lists." Edited by Donald Herbert Yoder. In The Pennsylvania German Folklore Society [Yearbook], vol. 10 (1945), pp. 225
  7. "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8MS-14N : 28 November 2014)
  8. http://pages.swcp.com/~dhickman/journals/V6I1/stumpneff.html
  9. Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Church Records - Adams, Berks, and Lancaster Counties, 1729-1881 [database on-line]
  10. BURGERT, ANNETTE KUNSELMAN. Eighteenth Century Emigrants from German-Speaking Lands to North America. Publications of the Pennsylvania German Society, 16/19. Birdsboro, PA: The Pennsylvania German Society. Vol. 1: The Northern Kraichgau. 1983. P. 270
  11. http://www.trailofourancestors.com/shplst14.htm

<1> http://www.wvgenweb.org/hardy/stump/mstitle.htm

<2> Pennsylvania German Pioneers, Pages xxi and xxii

<3> GERBER, ADOLF. "Emigrants from Wuerttemberg: The Adolf Gerber Lists." Edited by Donald Herbert Yoder. In The Pennsylvania German Folklore Society [Yearbook], vol. 10 (1945), pp. 225

<4> "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8MS-14N : 28 November 2014)

<5> http://pages.swcp.com/~dhickman/journals/V6I1/stumpneff.html

<6> Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Church Records - Adams, Berks, and Lancaster Counties, 1729-1881 [database on-line]

<7> BURGERT, ANNETTE KUNSELMAN. Eighteenth Century Emigrants from German-Speaking Lands to North America. Publications of the Pennsylvania German Society, 16/19. Birdsboro, PA: The Pennsylvania German Society. Vol. 1: The Northern Kraichgau. 1983. P. 270

<8> http://www.trailofourancestors.com/shplst14.ht

<9> Source: S500020 Geni World Family Tree Publication: MyHeritage The Geni World Family Tree is found on <A href="http://www.geni.com" target="_blank">www.Geni.com</A>. Geni is owned and operated by MyHeritage. Collection Media: 40000 https://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-40000/geni-world-family-tree?s=319502151&itemId=325497682&action=showRecord&indId=individual-319502151-1501677 Certainty: 4 Hans Michael I StumpfGender: Male Birth: Mar 17 1708 - Eberbach, GermanyDeath: 1768 - Hampshire County, VirginiaFather: Hans Peter StumpffMother: Anna Catherine RudingerWife: Maria CatherinaChild: Michael II Stump Event: Record Role: 40000:325497682:


Acknowledgements

  • Jessica Wheat Welton






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Stumpff-51 and Stumpf-7 appear to represent the same person because: potential duplicate
posted by Manuela Thiele
Stump-1725 and Stumpf-7 appear to represent the same person because: same parents (merges proposed) same/similar dates, same lineage and wife, multiple wives need merging, also
posted by Robin Lee
Stump-883 and Stumpf-7 appear to represent the same person because: While the name is spelled a bit differently, they appear to be the same person.
posted by Craig Albrechtson
I've set this as an Unmerged Match with Stumpf-279 because there are duplicate family members. It looks like there may be some connections that need to be adjusted in some of the families.
Unfortunately, I've given permissions to manage these records to others and they have since merged many people. I no longer actively participate in managing these records because it became too convoluted and confused. I'm sorry for any discrepancies that have occurred since I created my family tree.
posted by Aaron Stump
Are there any sources to provide that Hans Stumpf and Anna Rudinger are the parents for Hans Michael? There seems to be conflicting stories across the internet and I was curious as to how this assignment was made.

It appears to me that the Hans Michael who emigrated in 1743 is NOT the same Hans Michael who married Anna Catherine Neff. I believe the one who married Neff was the son of John George Stumpf and Elizabeth Reubling, and this family emigrated to New York in 1710.

posted by Brian Stump

Rejected matches › Michael Stump (abt.1715-1768)

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