George Tailboys, Knt.; de jureLord Kyme; Earl of Angus; Sheriff of Lincolnshire
Family
George Tailboys was the eldest son and heir of Robert Tailboys, de jure Lord Kyme, Knight of the Shire for Lincolnshire, and Sheriff of Lincolnshire, and his wife, Elizabeth Heron.[1][2] He was born about 1467 (aged 28 in 1495), probably in Lincolnshire where his father lived.[3][4][5][6]
Activities and Positions Held
In 1495 George Tailboys served as Sheriff of Lincolnshire.[6][7][8]
In 1510 he was admitted to membership in the Corpus Christi Guild at Boston, Lincolnshire.[2][10] During this time guilds were religious societies organized to promote honest business practices, in return for which guild members pledged to pray for their deceased members souls in order to shorten their time in purgatory.[11] Boston had a number of such guilds but the Corpus Christi Guild was known, in particular, as being a group of high-ranking men and women who had the wealth to build chapels and hire priests to offer daily prayers for them.[11]
Douglas Richardson lists George as sheriff of Lincolnshire in 1526[2][3] but this is not correct, it was his eldest son Gilbert who held the position of sheriff that year.[12] On 2 March 1517, George Tailboys was judged to be a lunatic, and both his person and his lands were taken into custody.[2][3] He was subsequently placed under the care of Cardinal Wolsey,[13] and his eldest son, Gilbert, came to court under Wolsey's protection[14]
William Tailboys; priest, canon of Lincolnshire;[4][5] died bef. 10 Oct 1577 (when will was proved) and buried in his parent's chapel in Lincoln Cathedral[15]
Sir George Tailboys died 21 Sep 1538. He was buried at Bullington, Lincolnshire.[2][6][8][15][19] In a will dated 18 January 1512 (which predated his insanity) he bequeathed to his wife Elizabeth "for the tender love and kindness that she hath showed to me" the manors of Thorp, Waynflet, and Golthagh.[20]There were also bequests to each of his children, a gift to the Priory of Kyme, and funds to be used for the reparation of Lincoln Cathedral and Halystane Church in Redesdale.[20] His grandson George received the manor of Hurworth.[5]
His widow, Elizabeth, died in 1559 and was buried at Lincoln Cathedral.[3]
George and Elizabeth had a daughter called Maud but no reliable source has been found for her marrying, or having a husband called William Redshaw. Maude Tailboys-31 should not be attached as a daughter unless either:
a good source can be found for their daughter Maud marrying William Redshaw or
William Redshaw is detached as husband of Maud.
Sources
↑ Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), vol 5, p. 114 TAILBOYS 16. Robert Tailboys.
↑ 2.02.12.22.32.42.52.62.72.8 Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), vol. 4, pp. 164 - 165, TAILBOYS 12. George Tailboys.
↑ 3.03.13.23.33.43.53.63.7 Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), vol 5, p. 114 TAILBOYS 17. George Tailboys.
↑ 6.06.16.2 Watney, Vernon James. The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry. Oxford: John Johnson (1928), p. 753
↑List of Sheriffs for England and Wales. Public Record Office Lists and Indexes (1898), vol. 9, p. 79.
↑ 8.08.1 Trollope, Edward. Sleaford and the Wapentakes of Flaxwell and Aswardburn. Sleaford: William Fawcett (1872), pp. 252-254.
↑ Shaw, William A. The Knights of England. London: Sherratt and Hughes (1906), vol 2, p. 30.
↑ Thompson, Pishey. History and Antiquities of Boston. London: Longman and Co. (1856), p. 752 (list of Corpus Christie Guild members).
↑ 11.011.1 Austin, Richard (ed). Boston: The Small Town with a Big Story. Cherry Tree Books (2019), David Radford and Betty Brammer, "The Guilds".
↑List of Sheriffs for England and Wales. Public Record Office Lists and Indexes (1898), vol. 9, p. 80.
↑Letters and Papers of Henry VIII, i 380, 3977; ii. 2979, as cited in Kingsford, C.L. Talboys or Tailboys, Sir William, Styled Lord of Kyme (d.1464). Dictionary of National Biography, archive edition. Available here.
↑Letters and Papers. iv. 4257, 5408, as cited in Kingsford, C.L. Talboys or Tailboys, Sir William, Styled Lord of Kyme (d.1464). Dictionary of National Biography, archive edition. Available here.
↑ 15.015.115.2 Maddison, A.R. Lincolnshire Pedigrees. (H.S.P. 52) London: by the Society (1904), vol. 3, p.946.
↑ 17.017.117.2 Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), vol 4, p. 466 READE 18. Edward Dymoke.
↑Lincolnshire Marriages and Banns. Ann Dymoke. Marriage date: 12 Nov 1570; Spouse: Robert Carre; Place: Howell Lincolnshire; Lincolnshire Archives, Marriages and Banns p. 2, page image available here with subscription.
Flower, William. Visitation of Yorkshire 1563-1564. London: Mitchell and Hughes (1881), p. 135. (Gascoigne pedigree)
Marshall, George W. Genealogist. London: Golding and Lawrence (1878), vol. 2, pp. 19-24; pp. 44-52.
Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), vol. 2, p. 246 GASCOIGNE 12.ii. Elizabeth Gascoigne.
Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), vol. 4, pp. 164 - 165, TAILBOYS 12. George Tailboys.
Acknowledgements
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Sir Robert was restored in blood in 1472, and at his death in 1495 was recorded to have held the manor of Hurworth and the advowson of the church and rent from the manor of Neasham.
Sir Robert's son and heir George, aged twenty-four at that time, was made a knight at the battle of Blackheath in 1497, but about a year later was found to be a lunatic. He must have recovered, for in 1499 he obtained pardon for any intrusions made upon the manor and vill of Hurworth. In 1512 he had licence to alienate the manor of Sotby, and made his will 18 January 1512–13, after this he joined the expedition to France with a retinue of twenty-five men. In 1517 he was again a lunatic, and appears to have remained insane to the end of his life, about twenty years later.
At the Durham inquisition in 1539 it was found that he had held Hurworth; the heir was his grandson George, Lord Tailbois, aged sixteen years, being son of Gilbert, Lord Tailbois, son of George.
This source is already cited fairly extensively in the bio above, but I have added a sentence clarifying that after George's death the manor of Hurworth went to his grandson.
Thanks for drawing attention to the profile created for Maude Tailboys said to be wife of William Redshaw.
Do you have reliable evidence that the Maud who was daughter of George Tailboys married William Redshaw? The profile for Maude needs stronger and clearer sourcing, and William Redshaw's profile lacks any sourcing. As John Atkinson has pointed out in response to an earlier comment on this profile, the sources given on this profile for Maud do not name a husband.
It would, I am afraid, be inappropriate to attach the profile created for Maude while she is shown as wife of William unless good evidence can be found for the marriage relationship.
I should perhaps add that George Tailboys and Elizabeth Gascoigne were removed as parents of Maude Tailboys-31 in 2016. One reason for that will have been the lack of evidence that their daughter Maude married a William Redshaw.
I have also placed a comment on Maude's own profile.
i find it peculiar that you say "inappropriate to attach the profile created for Maude while she is shown as wife of William" are you mixing her up with her Aunt Maud??
In my scant yet very old family tree information "unsourced family tree handed down". This Maude married William (Redschawe, Redsher, eventually Racher.) That is old info. True, there are no sources "yet". So why is it inappropriate to attach her to her parents because she married William? If she did not marry William, then can she not be attached and that "possibility" be mentioned in her profile and in his, so researchers can go hunting?
For pre-1700 profiles we require reliable sources. There are two questions.
1. Did a William Redshaw marry a Maud Tailboys?
2. If so, was this Maud Tailboys a daughter of George Tailboys and Elizabeth Gascoigne?
Attaching a Maud shown as married to William Redshaw would be wrong unless both questions can be answered in the positive, with good evidence. It would create a set of ill-evidenced descents on WikiTree from George Tailboys, and be misleading.
At the moment, no reliable evidence has been found that Maud, daughter of George Tailboys and Elizabeth Gascoigne, married.
I am sorry this answer disappoints, but that is the position, and we will not get further by prolonging this discussion.
… and there are research notes on this profile and on the profile of Maud Tailboys-31. So the unevidenced suggestion that George Tailboys' daughter Maud married William Redshaw is already mentioned on these two profiles.
I come from a long line of "ill-evidenced descents" being that I come from the DeGraffs (New Netherland Project) and well I am used to it and just not fond of working on these ancient ones but I will keep my eye out.
I saw a Maud Talboys in my adventures down the rabbit hole, and now I am wondering if Talboys and Tailboys were the same or different? ...so much clarificiation needed, wish that Dna could fix this stuff.
George was born in Kyme according to my scant family records. He passed on 21 Sep 1538 in Bullington.
He is missing a child named Maude, born in 1510. She married a Redschawe and had a son named Gilbert in 1549.
Gilbert married Elizabeth, ch. Thomas.
Thomas m. Alice Burdekin. Ch. Gilbert
Gilbert married Anne. Ch. John "Redshear"
John married Mary. Ch. John (among others)
John married Mary Anne Parker, Ch. Nightingale (among others)
Nightingale married Elizabeth Turner, Ch. Nightingale and Joseph (that I know of )
Nightingale married Elzabeth Payne (aka Pain) Ch. Ashur (plus 10 more)
Ashur married Charlotte Ingrey...plently more to share but basically the Racher family was pretty well documented. (Thanks to England records)
The Redschawe's become the Rachers of England and eneded up in Canada. So please, if someone might help to source and add the missing child Maude...it would be great to connect my Grt Gran's family.
(my great Gran was Florence Lowry (nee Racher)
Thanks for following along...I am tired so I ended the lineage story early! :-)
Merry Winter Solstice and Happy Yule.
Thanks. No reliably sourced birthplace has been found for George, and his parents had property in several counties. Bullington was his burial place - it is not known if he actually died there. A daughter Maud is named in the biography, but she does not currently have a profile.
Neither of the two sources cited for Maude in the biography name a husband. The surname Redschawe is virtually non-existent (only one example of that name in British History Online, alive during time of Edward III, and no one in National Archives of England Discovery search). There is evidence of the spelling Redshawe. If Maude's profile is to be created, then there would need to be a reliable source or sources found that would confirm the genealogy, particularly as this would be a pre-1700 profile.
update: corrected my typo in this message (I meant to say LNAB should be Tailboys)
and one more while we're picking on George: his LNAB should be Tailboys, unless he's shown as Tailbois in Cawley's MedLands database. I couldn't find him listed there at all, so Richardson's spelling should be used: Tailboys.
P.S. see this search page for MedLands. If you find George there with the Tailbois spelling, please post a link in the profile & also reply or answer in the G2G discussion about the LNAB. Thanks!
The Tailboys were not in the line of the Earl of Angus - Cokayne says the Barony of Umfreville and the Earldom of Angus (if English) are in abeyance and the Scotch Earldom is in the line of the heirs of Agnes, dau. of Elizabeth (Umfreville) Elmeden
After the Barony Tailboys went extinct, Baron Kyme reverted to George's son Rev William Tailboys, de jure 13th Baron Kyme. After his death without heirs in 1577 the title went into abeyance between the descendants of George's daughters. Apparently Queen Elizabeth is one of the co-heirs.
Sir George was also a direct ancestor of President George Washington. I believe 5 times Great Grandfather. According to the Bio listing here, shouldn't Sir George be listed as Earl of Angus? Regardless, the listing should read de jure 9th Baron of Kyme since Kyme is a place name not a family name, ie Albert, 7th Earl Spencer not Earl of Spencer.
Sir Robert was restored in blood in 1472, and at his death in 1495 was recorded to have held the manor of Hurworth and the advowson of the church and rent from the manor of Neasham.
Sir Robert's son and heir George, aged twenty-four at that time, was made a knight at the battle of Blackheath in 1497, but about a year later was found to be a lunatic. He must have recovered, for in 1499 he obtained pardon for any intrusions made upon the manor and vill of Hurworth. In 1512 he had licence to alienate the manor of Sotby, and made his will 18 January 1512–13, after this he joined the expedition to France with a retinue of twenty-five men. In 1517 he was again a lunatic, and appears to have remained insane to the end of his life, about twenty years later.
At the Durham inquisition in 1539 it was found that he had held Hurworth; the heir was his grandson George, Lord Tailbois, aged sixteen years, being son of Gilbert, Lord Tailbois, son of George.
This source is already cited fairly extensively in the bio above, but I have added a sentence clarifying that after George's death the manor of Hurworth went to his grandson.
Jen
Do you have reliable evidence that the Maud who was daughter of George Tailboys married William Redshaw? The profile for Maude needs stronger and clearer sourcing, and William Redshaw's profile lacks any sourcing. As John Atkinson has pointed out in response to an earlier comment on this profile, the sources given on this profile for Maud do not name a husband.
It would, I am afraid, be inappropriate to attach the profile created for Maude while she is shown as wife of William unless good evidence can be found for the marriage relationship.
edited by Michael Cayley
I have also placed a comment on Maude's own profile.
edited by Michael Cayley
1. Did a William Redshaw marry a Maud Tailboys?
2. If so, was this Maud Tailboys a daughter of George Tailboys and Elizabeth Gascoigne?
Attaching a Maud shown as married to William Redshaw would be wrong unless both questions can be answered in the positive, with good evidence. It would create a set of ill-evidenced descents on WikiTree from George Tailboys, and be misleading.
At the moment, no reliable evidence has been found that Maud, daughter of George Tailboys and Elizabeth Gascoigne, married.
I am sorry this answer disappoints, but that is the position, and we will not get further by prolonging this discussion.
edited by Michael Cayley
I come from a long line of "ill-evidenced descents" being that I come from the DeGraffs (New Netherland Project) and well I am used to it and just not fond of working on these ancient ones but I will keep my eye out.
I saw a Maud Talboys in my adventures down the rabbit hole, and now I am wondering if Talboys and Tailboys were the same or different? ...so much clarificiation needed, wish that Dna could fix this stuff.
George was born in Kyme according to my scant family records. He passed on 21 Sep 1538 in Bullington. He is missing a child named Maude, born in 1510. She married a Redschawe and had a son named Gilbert in 1549. Gilbert married Elizabeth, ch. Thomas. Thomas m. Alice Burdekin. Ch. Gilbert Gilbert married Anne. Ch. John "Redshear" John married Mary. Ch. John (among others) John married Mary Anne Parker, Ch. Nightingale (among others) Nightingale married Elizabeth Turner, Ch. Nightingale and Joseph (that I know of ) Nightingale married Elzabeth Payne (aka Pain) Ch. Ashur (plus 10 more) Ashur married Charlotte Ingrey...plently more to share but basically the Racher family was pretty well documented. (Thanks to England records) The Redschawe's become the Rachers of England and eneded up in Canada. So please, if someone might help to source and add the missing child Maude...it would be great to connect my Grt Gran's family. (my great Gran was Florence Lowry (nee Racher) Thanks for following along...I am tired so I ended the lineage story early! :-) Merry Winter Solstice and Happy Yule.
(update completed 3 Oct 2023)
edited by Jen (Stevens) Hutton
and one more while we're picking on George: his LNAB should be Tailboys, unless he's shown as Tailbois in Cawley's MedLands database. I couldn't find him listed there at all, so Richardson's spelling should be used: Tailboys.
See this discussion in G2G.
Cheers, Liz
P.S. see this search page for MedLands. If you find George there with the Tailbois spelling, please post a link in the profile & also reply or answer in the G2G discussion about the LNAB. Thanks!